Climate.gov Rides Again: A Sign That the Climate Debate Is Far From Over

According to a June 23 New York Times report, โ€œFormer NOAA Employees Revive Climate Site Shut by Trump Administration,โ€ a small group of former NOAA employees has recreated much of the former Climate.gov website under a new domain, Climate.us, after the original site was effectively retired during the Trump administration. The project reportedly involved former NOAA staff, approximately $280,000 in crowdsourced funding, and the painstaking recataloging of more than a thousand reports, datasets, articles, and educational resources.

From Watts Up With That?

By Anthony Watts

According to a June 23 New York Times report, โ€œFormer NOAA Employees Revive Climate Site Shut by Trump Administration,โ€ a small group of former NOAA employees has recreated much of the former Climate.gov website under a new domain, Climate.us, after the original site was effectively retired during the Trump administration. The project reportedly involved former NOAA staff, approximately $280,000 in crowdsourced funding, and the painstaking recataloging of more than a thousand reports, datasets, articles, and educational resources.

The Times presents the effort as a heroic restoration of a valuable public resource. Perhaps. But there is another way to look at it.

The fact that a handful of former government employees devoted substantial time and money to rebuilding a climate communications website demonstrates something many observers have long understood: the climate movement is not disappearing simply because the political environment has shifted. Far from it.

If anything, this episode illustrates the determination of climate advocacy networks to preserve and perpetuate their institutional infrastructure regardless of who occupies the White House.

What Exactly Was Lost?

One detail in the Times story deserves particular attention: NOAA communications director Kim Doster stated that research products previously housed under Climate.gov would remain available through NOAA.gov and affiliated websites.

That raises an obvious question: if the underlying data, research products, and reports continue to exist elsewhere within NOAAโ€™s web ecosystem, then what exactly was being โ€œsavedโ€?

The answer appears to be less about preserving raw scientific information and more about preserving a particular presentation and advocacy interpretation of that information.

Climate.gov was never merely a repository of temperature records, satellite measurements, or hurricane statistics. It functioned as a communications portal designed to translate climate science for public consumption. As the Times itself notes, supporters valued it because it was aimed at teachers, journalists, and the general public rather than exclusively at researchers. In other words, it was a climate marketing tool.

That distinction matters. Scientific data and scientific advocacy/messaging are not the same thing. The existence of a website devoted to interpreting climate information through a particular institutional lens does not automatically make that interpretation indispensable.

The Problem of Relevance

There is another issue that deserves consideration. Much of the material being restored was created under assumptions, projections, and narratives that may or may not remain relevant to current conditions.

Climate science evolves. Datasets change, methodologies are revised, models are updated or canceled, and forecasts are adjusted. Simply recreating an archived website does not guarantee that every article, educational resource, or explanatory document remains useful or accurate in light of current observations.

Indeed, one of the recurring problems in climate communication has been the tendency to preserve alarming projections long after real-world observations have complicated the original narrative.

That is why skepticism remains important. The question should never be whether information can be preserved. The question should be whether that information remains relevant, accurate, and consistent with observed reality.

Archiving material is easy. Critically evaluating it is harder.

Climate Advocacy Never Takes a Vacation

The broader lesson from this story is political rather than scientific. Many commentators have suggested that recent political changes represent some sort of permanent turning point in the climate debate. The reduction of federal climate programs, the restructuring of agencies, and the reassessment of various climate policies have led some observers to conclude that the era of climate alarmism is winding down.

That would be a mistake. History shows us that movements built over decades do not disappear overnight. The recent rise of irrational socialism is a perfect example.

The Climate.us project demonstrates that there remains a substantial network of activists, former officials, advocacy organizations, academics, and donors committed to maintaining the climate narrative regardless of changes in government priorities.

When one institutional pathway closes, another opens, when one website disappears, another appears, when one source of funding dries up, new funding sources emerge.

This is not unusual. It is how political and ideological movements operate. The climate movement is no exception.

A Preview of What Comes Next

The political winds are always changing, anyone who believes todayโ€™s policy environment will remain unchanged indefinitely has not been paying attention to history.

  • Administrations change.
  • Congressional majorities change.
  • Agency leadership changes.
  • Public priorities change.

When those changes occur, climate advocacy organizations will be positioned to move aggressively. The infrastructure is being maintained now precisely because its supporters expect future opportunities.

That is perhaps the most important takeaway from this story. The people rebuilding Climate.govโ€™s advocacy platform are acting on the assumption that climate politics remains a long-term project.

They are probably correct. Clearly, in their minds, the debate is not ending. It is merely entering another phase.

Why WUWT Matters

For that reason, websites such as Watts Up With That remain as important as ever.

The role of WUWT has never been to suppress information. It has been to examine claims, challenge assumptions, scrutinize data, and ask questions that many institutional climate organizations would prefer not be asked.

That mission becomes even more important when climate communications efforts become increasingly centralized and insulated from criticism.

  • Independent scrutiny is essential.
  • Scientific claims deserve examination.
  • Model projections deserve comparison against observations.
  • Policy proposals deserve cost-benefit analysis.
  • Public communications deserve fact-checking.

Those responsibilities do not disappear when political circumstances appear favorable to climate skeptics.

If anything, this is precisely the moment when skeptical analysis must remain vigilant.

The recreation of Climate.gov under a different name serves as a reminder that climate advocacy infrastructure is resilient and persistent. Supporters of climate alarmism are investing significant effort to preserve the narratives, educational materials, and communication channels they regard as essential.

Those who favor open debate, transparency, and rigorous examination of climate claims should be equally committed to preserving institutions that provide critical analysis and alternative viewpoints.

Because one thing is certain: the climate debate is not going away, it is just waiting for the political winds to shift.

Political fortunes rise and fall. Administrations come and go. Government priorities shift, but the underlying contest over how climate science is interpreted, communicated, and used to justify policy will continue.

And when the political pendulum inevitably swings again, the push for expansive climate and energy policies will likely return with renewed vigor. That is exactly why independent skeptical voices must remain active, engaged, and prepared for the long haul.

We will have the 20th anniversary of WUWT in November; weโ€™ve done it all without government grants, and we survived oppression, demonetization, and blacklisting by Google and other search platforms.

If you havenโ€™t already, please sign up as a supporting member and help us continue the fight.

Fired Climate.gov Federal Employees Resurrect Website on their Own Dime

See, they didnโ€™t need federal funding after all.

A tense scene in an old-fashioned office, featuring three men reacting dramatically. One man, seated at a desk, looks alarmed while another stands holding a broom, and a third man, behind them, appears to be shouting. The room has papers on the walls and a vintage decor.

From Watts Up With That?

Essay by Eric Worrall

An animated character with a worried expression stands in front of two large smiling emoji faces.

See, they didnโ€™t need federal funding after all.

Scientists breathe new life into climate website after shutdown under Trump

Climate.gov, which went dark this summer, to be revived by volunteers as climate.us with expanded mission

Eric Holthaus Sat 30 Aug 2025 20.00 AEST

Earlier this summer, access to climate.gov โ€“ one of the most widely used portals of climate information on the internet โ€“ was thwarted by the Trump administration, and its production team was fired in the process.

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Now, a team of climate communication experts โ€“ including many members of the former climate.gov team โ€“ is working to resurrect its content into a new organization with an expanded mission.

Their effortโ€™s new website, climate.us, would not only offer public-facing interpretations of climate science, but could also begin to directly offer climate-related services, such as assisting local governments with mapping increased flooding risk due to climate change.

The effort is being led by climate.govโ€™s former managing editor, Rebecca Lindsey, who, although now unemployed, has recruited several of her former colleagues to volunteer their time in an attempt to build climate.us into a thriving non-profit organization.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/30/climate-gov-website-trump

Leaving aside the intriguing question of why a website which President Trump ordered shut down is still available online and burning federal funds, this once again demonstrates there is no need to fund alarmist climate scientists from taxpayer money. Theyโ€™re all so eager to give us their opinions, theyโ€™ll keep on doing it even when the funding is removed.

This determination of alarmists to work on despite no longer being paid by taxpayer’s echoes events in Australia a decade ago. To quote former Aussie Prime Ministerย Tony Abbott, when asked in 2013 why he planned to fire climate commissionerย Tim Flannery,ย Abbottโ€™s responseย was โ€œIt does sound like an unnecessary position given the gentlemen in question gives us the benefit of his views without needing taxpayer funding โ€œ.


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Raise a Glass to the Shuttering of Climate.gov

In its steady promotion of fiscal frugality, the Trump administration has sent the entire content production staff of Climate.gov packing as their NOAA contract expired on May 31โ€”effectively silencing the federal governmentโ€™s flagship climate propaganda platform overnight. Rebecca Lindsey, Tom Di Liberto and the rest of the onceโ€“highly paid spin doctors who churned out daily โ€œurgentโ€ updates on melting ice sheets and COโ‚‚ curves received form letters informing them that their โ€œknowledge, skills, and abilities are no longer of use to NOAA,โ€ a fitting epitaph for a site built on relentless hype.

From Watts Up With That?

By Charles Rotter

In its steady promotion of fiscal frugality, the Trump administration has sent the entire content production staff of Climate.gov packing as their NOAA contract expired on May 31โ€”effectively silencing the federal governmentโ€™s flagship climate propaganda platform overnight. Rebecca Lindsey, Tom Di Liberto and the rest of the onceโ€“highly paid spin doctors who churned out daily โ€œurgentโ€ updates on melting ice sheets and COโ‚‚ curves received form letters informing them that their โ€œknowledge, skills, and abilities are no longer of use to NOAA,โ€ a fitting epitaph for a site built on relentless hype.

For years, millions of casual web surfers landed on Climate.gov only to be lectured by animated carbon-cycle maps, sliding-scale temperature-anomaly widgets and color-coded doom gauges predicting imminent coastal calamity. All of that eye-candy is now frozen in digital amberโ€”archived but never to be updatedโ€”so that future historians can gawp at government-sponsored hysteria in its unedited glory. No more breathless countdowns to climate Armageddon, no more click-bait pop-ups proclaiming every thunderstorm as โ€œproofโ€ of runaway warming. The propagandists have packed up their graph-generating scripts and left, leaving behind only static pages that serve as curious relics of alarmist marketing.

Critics have wailed about โ€œcritical climate dataโ€ being scrubbed, but their caterwauling stems from a basic misunderstanding: none of the raw measurements ever disappeared. The station records, satellite feeds, radar logs, ocean-buoy readings and even paleoclimate ice-core datasets remain untouched in the National Centers for Environmental Information archive, which manages over 60 petabytes of environmental data and continues to serve it up via Climate Data Online APIs, FTP servers and the NCEI Map Viewer. In other words, the data werenโ€™t scrubbedโ€”they were never meant to be buried; only the politically curated presentation was.

Let the narrative merchants keep insisting that โ€œwithout Climate.gov the public will be left in the dark.โ€ All thatโ€™s dark now is their empty echo chamber. Researchers already download the identical datasets through legacy servers and modern APIs, free from grant-dependent graphics and grant-writing obligations. The Trump administration didnโ€™t โ€œdestroy climate dataโ€โ€”it defunded a taxpayer-subsidized panic-porn production line. And if that leaves the fear-mongers shrieking into the void, thatโ€™s just proof their only real product was panic.

This isnโ€™t mere belt-tightening; itโ€™s the death rattle of a climate industrial complex enmeshed in grant cycles, media conferences and self-congratulatory symposia. First came the mid-winter purge of greenhouse-gas inventory portals and adaptation-strategy playbooks, then the layoff of hundreds of modelers and communicatorsโ€”including the entire team behind the National Climate Assessment. Now, the piรจce de rรฉsistance: the mothballing of the flagship propaganda website itself.

What happens next is deliciously ironic. Journalists will scramble to cite โ€œindependent expertsโ€ instead of regurgitating White House press releases. Schoolchildren Googling โ€œClimate.govโ€ will find nothing but stale content from before June 2025. Policymakers who once leaned on slick NOAA pop-ups to justify mandates on electric cars and green subsidies will have to defend their proposals on substance rather than spun narratives. The very architects of alarm will discover that once you cut off the megaphone, the tornado of fear winds down.

Those who moan about a โ€œslippery slope of censorshipโ€ conveniently ignore that Climate.gov was never a neutral repository; it functioned as a de facto propaganda arm for unverified worst-case projections. Now that the faucet of federal hype has been shut off, civic discourse can finally shift back toward sober cost-benefit analysis and genuine uncertainty. Markets and local communitiesโ€”far more responsive to observable risks than to speculative model outputโ€”will decide how best to adapt, unfettered by taxpayer-funded hype.

So, raise a glass to the shuttering ofย Climate.gov. This isnโ€™t just a budget cut but the vanquishing of one of the most lavishly promoted panic-mongering platforms in government history. For every ominous anomaly graph they spun, all that remains now is silenceโ€”and silence is the most honest response to alarmism that could never hold up under real scrutiny.

When the Narrative Dies: Climate.gov and the Quiet Collapse of Climate Alarmism

It appears the United States has quietly taken a scalpelโ€”rather than a chainsawโ€”to one of its central instruments of climate orthodoxy: Climate.gov. According to reporting from The Guardian, the plug is being pulled on this site, which served as a flagship for NOAAโ€™s โ€œclimate communication, education, and engagementโ€ efforts. Its entire content production team has been sacked, and the siteโ€™s future now hangs somewhere between irrelevance and digital zombification.

From Watts Up With That?

By Charles Rotter

It appears the United States has quietly taken a scalpelโ€”rather than a chainsawโ€”to one of its central instruments of climate orthodoxy: Climate.gov. According to reporting from The Guardian, the plug is being pulled on this site, which served as a flagship for NOAAโ€™s โ€œclimate communication, education, and engagementโ€ efforts. Its entire content production team has been sacked, and the siteโ€™s future now hangs somewhere between irrelevance and digital zombification.

Letโ€™s not beat around the wind turbine: this is cause for a healthy smirk.

For over a decade, Climate.gov was marketed as a neutral purveyor of scientific truth, but in practice, it functioned more like a taxpayer-funded echo chamber for IPCC-aligned climate narratives. It presented โ€œconsensus scienceโ€ as gospel, projected model predictions as inevitable fate, and treated carbon dioxideโ€”a gas essential for lifeโ€”as a pollutant to be morally condemned. All in the name of โ€œpublic education,โ€ of course.

https://www.climate.gov/

Well, education implies options. What this site provided was indoctrination.

The exposed nerve in The Guardianโ€˜s coverage is palpable. Staff describe the firings as a โ€œdeliberate, targeted attackโ€ on โ€œpolitically neutralโ€ science. According to former program manager Rebecca Lindseyโ€”who admits she received โ€œa stellar performance review, a bonus, a raiseโ€โ€”the team was dismissed with a form letter stating that their

โ€œknowledge, skills, and abilities are no longer of use to NOAAโ€.

Translation: the new administration doesnโ€™t need more PowerPoint climatology to justify economy-wrecking policies.

Apparently, publishing graphs with y-axes scaled to induce panic is no longer a national priority.

The pearl-clutching gets better. One staffer voiced concern that the administration could โ€œco-optโ€ the Climate.gov domain and hand it to โ€œa content team from the Heartland Institute,โ€ fearing it might become a platform for gasp alternative viewpoints. This is presented as a nightmare scenario. But why, exactly? If the public is indeed so swayed by reason and data, then an honest debate shouldnโ€™t threaten anyone.

https://www.climate.gov/

Unless, of course, the foundation of your messaging is so fragile that even a modest breeze of skepticism might topple it.

One of the more revealing quotes comes from a contractor who worries that Climate.gov could become a โ€œpropaganda website for this administration.โ€ Thatโ€™s rich. Because when it was churning out one-sided material about climate doom, it wasnโ€™t propagandaโ€”it was โ€œeducation.โ€ The self-awareness deficit here is staggering.

Climate.gov boasted โ€œhundreds of thousands of visits per monthโ€ and supposedly played a key role in โ€œpushing back against misinformation.โ€ In truth, its content pushed a very specific kind of information: that which supported central planning, carbon taxation, regulatory expansion, and the replacement of affordable energy with intermittent, subsidized alternatives.

Notably, Di Liberto, a former NOAA spokesperson, laments the fact that

โ€œThey only fired a handful of people, and it just so happened to be the entire content team for climate.gov. I mean, thatโ€™s a clear signal.โ€

Thatโ€™s not a glitch; thatโ€™s a feature. When the alleged neutrality of a government website means never deviating from one political outlook, then yes, the entire content team should be replacedโ€”or eliminated entirely.

The kicker is that this doesnโ€™t even represent a full-scale rollback. Itโ€™s more like a bureaucratic cold shoulder. Pre-written content will still be drip-fed to the site, like a zombie blog still twitching after its brain has been removed. Social media accounts are likely to go dark. Staff who once wielded the authority to label everything they disagreed with as โ€œdisinformationโ€ will now have to join the rest of us in the public squareโ€”where claims must actually hold up under scrutiny.

https://www.climate.gov/

The Guardian frames this as a national disservice, warning that โ€œhalting factual climate information is a disservice to the public.โ€ But what it really laments is the loss of narrative control. The public still has access to raw data. NOAA isnโ€™t disappearing. The difference is that its most ideologically curated interface is no longer being force-fed into search engines and school curricula.

Letโ€™s be honest: Climate.gov was never just a website. It was a flagship for technocratic messaging, a glittering storefront in the climate industrial complex. Its dismantling signals something refreshing: that Americans are tiring of being talked down to, taxed up the wazoo, and force-fed a diet of dire predictions wrapped in pseudo-objectivity.

Itโ€™s about time we returned to actual skepticism, open inquiry, and policies that treat energy not as a vice, but a virtue.

Score one for reality.