Pressure Causes Temperature? It’s Time to Climb Down from “Mount Stupid”

The whole ordeal makes me think of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, which is the tendency for people who start to understand a complex subject to overestimate their level of understanding. This then leads to a point of peak overconfidence (climbing “Mount Stupid”), which then gradually relaxes as more is learned and the person increasingly realizes that the subject is more complicated and nuanced than they originally thought.

May 28th, 2026 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

There was a recent weeks-long exchange of emails between many climate people — professional and amateur — regarding the idea that air pressure (in combination with absorbed solar energy) is what causes temperature. There were insults launched at those who refused to believe what a certain physics-trained person says should be a revolution in our understanding of planetary temperatures. That person even managed to get a paper published in a journal that (in my opinion) used reviewers who were in over their heads on the subject.

The whole ordeal makes me think of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, which is the tendency for people who start to understand a complex subject to overestimate their level of understanding. This then leads to a point of peak overconfidence (climbing “Mount Stupid”), which then gradually relaxes as more is learned and the person increasingly realizes that the subject is more complicated and nuanced than they originally thought.

I claim that the person in question who thinks [pressure + absorbed solar energy = temperature] is still stuck on Mount Stupid.

The reason I bring this up again (I’ve preached on it before) is that many have been misled into believing the “theory”. As a result, I have spent many years responding to questions from the public (including science-savvy citizens) regarding the issue. Many have been convinced by the “theory”, and have joined the proponent of the theory on Mount Stupid.

After lurking in the weeks-long email discussion, I finally responded with the following summary of the issue. I have removed the person’s name to protect the not-so-innocent.

SUBJECT: Where <NAME REDACTED> Is Right… and Where <PRONOUN REDACTED> Is Wrong

All:

After working in meteorology and then climate during my 40+ year career, I think I can offer some insight into the issues being discussed in these emails. Like <NAME REDACTED>, I have always been skeptical of what I have been told until I could fully understand an issue for myself.

I’m sure the following explanations will be of help to many of you. (I suspect <NAME REDACTED> is too invested in theories to change <PRONOUN REDACTED> mind.) Many of the concepts are not trivial, and I will admit it wasn’t until many years after all of my education (PhD Meteorology) that I finally understood a few of them, because they were not taught in school. Dick Lindzen helped me in this in the early climate research years.

Most of what follows is fundamental atmospheric thermodynamics, and I question whether <NAME REDACTED> really did take a university-level Atmospheric Thermodynamics course. If he did, I’d like to know where.

And if <PRONOUN REDACTED> shows me <PRONOUN REDACTED> grades, I’ll show <PRONOUN REDACTED> mine.

A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

Imagine you could suddenly dump an extra 1 atmosphere of air on top of the existing atmosphere, what would happen to air temperature in the 1 ATM below? Just as <NAME REDACTED> would predict, the temperature of the original atmosphere below would increase greatly through adiabatic compression.

But what would happen NEXT?….

The high [hot] atmospheric temperatures in the lower atmosphere would then be far out of energy balance compared to what existed before. The result would be cooling of all of that air that was heated through adiabatic (or nearly so) compression (work done on the lower atmosphere) until a new state of energy equilibrium was reached. The energy loss would be through infrared radiation of the hotter air.

In fact is it always ENERGY BALANCE that determines temperature, through the 1st Law of Thermodynamics. A change in temperature is proportional to the rate of energy input minus the energy output (which includes any work done in the process).

In contrast, the Ideal Gas Law (PV=nRT) cannot tell you what the temperature “should be”. It only says how the variables P, V, and T are interrelated during the process of re-equilibration and in the final equilibrium state. What <NAME REDACTED> misses in <PRONOUN REDACTED> theory is the “n” part of the equation (the number of moles, or mass… which is in the density form of the equation, P = rho RT). In my hypothetical 2-atmosphere thought experiment, as the lower atmosphere cools to reach a new state of energy equilibrium with the solar input, the decreasing temperature causes an increase in the air density (“shrinkage”), and the pressure remains the same… even while the temperature is changing.

Specifically, following the 1st Law, the internal temperature of a volume of atmosphere exposed to an energy INPUT will increase until the temperature-dependent energy OUTPUT processes equal the rate of energy gain. This is true of every physical system… the atmosphere, a pot of water on the stove, a car’s engine, the human body, the interior of the sun, etc. That energy equilibrium is what determines the final temperature. (In the real atmosphere, there are constant energy imbalances and thus changes in temperature; Trenberth’s global-average energy balance diagram is only useful to gain a conceptual understanding of the relative role of the major energy flows in the global-average climate system.)

THE IDEAL GAS LAW

Again, the Ideal Gas Law equation (PV=nRT) cannot tell you what the temperature of a gas should be, only energy flows in and out can do that. The gas law just tells you how the P, n, and T are interrelated for a given volume (V) of air. Yes, <NAME REDACTED>, on short time scales, ascending air cools and descending air warms, but if all of that motion was to stop, energy flow processes would then determine what the final temperature would be… not what the air pressure is.

For a given surface air pressure, a huge range of temperatures is possible, and that huge range is all due to energy flow processes. Again, if the near-surface air temperature over the whole planet is much higher than local energy flow processes can support, the temperature falls, and the air’s volume shrinks (or density, rho, increases, according to the equivalent Ideal Gas Law equation, P=rhoRT). The surface air pressure remains the same because the total mass of the atmosphere is unchanged.

SO WHY MIGHT THERE BE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DIFFERENT PLANET’S LOWER ATMOSPHERIC TEMPERATURE AND PRESSURE?

I haven’t studied the atmospheres of other planets, because I don’t care. Even if those other planets did not exist, they are not necessary for understanding our own atmosphere. But if indeed <NAME REDACTED> is correct about a close statistical relationship between different planets’ surface air pressure and temperature, after adjusting for solar input, then I suspect it’s because the more atmosphere there is, the more greenhouse gases there are.

On the subject of GHGs, I’ve forgotten… does <NAME REDACTED> believe that air absorbs and emits IR energy? Because the greenhouse effect is a necessary consequence of that absorption/emission. Energetically, the GHE is a radiative insulator. It’s analogous to adding insulation to a heated building’s walls in winter. For a given energy input into the building, the air temperature inside will rise, and the outside of the walls will experience a temperature fall. This is exactly what the GHE does to the atmospheric temperature profile (in an energetic sense.. clearly involving radiation rather than conduction as a heat transfer mechanism).

If <NAME REDACTED> doesn’t believe air absorbs IR energy, how does <PRONOUN REDACTED> explain all of the thousands of spectroscopic measurements of CO2, water vapor, and methane as a function of temperature and pressure? And if <PRONOUN REDACTED> does believe the atmosphere absorbs and emits IR energy, then <PRONOUN REDACTED> must also believe in a greenhouse effect, because it is a necessary consequence…. the greenhouse effect in planetary atmospheres always causes warming of the lower atmosphere and cooling of the upper atmosphere.

(BTW, it is a common misconception that air which absorbs IR energy immediately loses that energy through emission of IR. Not true. Look up the “kinetic theory of gases” and related concepts. When CO2 or H2O vapor molecules absorb IR photons they extremely rapidly lose their extra energy to other air molecules through collisions. This happens much faster [by a factor of ~50,000] than the time it takes to re-emit energy through IR photons. This is how IR absorption immediately leads to “thermalization” [a term I hate].

Furthermore, it is crucial to understand that since IR absorption is largely independent of temperature, but IR loss is VERY dependent upon temperature, almost all air in the atmosphere is in a continual state of IR energy imbalance. Much of that imbalance is what [is balanced by] convective overturning.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE ADIABATIC LAPSE RATE?

The adiabatic lapse rate in the troposphere (9.8 deg C per km without moisture condensation) is the RESULT OF convective overturning. If condensation of moisture is involved in updrafts, then the lapse rate is lower. Like the Ideal Gas Law, it doesn’t tell you what the temperature “should” be. It just tells you how the temperature of an air parcel changes during ascent or descent, if there is no energy gain or loss (“a-diabatic”). [But there are energy gains and losses occurring everywhere, all the time, and those determine what the absolute temperature will be — not pressure.]

HOW DOES THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT PLAY INTO THE LAPSE RATE?

This is a very interesting subject. It is something that even many atmospheric scientists and climate researchers don’t really understand. The combination of solar heating of the surface and IR absorption and emission by the surface and atmosphere ALONE, WITHOUT ANY CONVECTIVE OVERTURNING would result in an extremely steep tropospheric lapse rate, with very high surface temperatures and exceedingly cold upper tropospheric temperatures. This was first demonstrated by Manabe & Strickler (1964), and it’s called the “pure radiative equilibrium” case. It is sort of what makes the term “greenhouse effect” technically correct; like a real greenhouse inhibiting convective heat loss [because it has a roof], the greenhouse effect is, by definition, what happens WITHOUT the resulting convective overturning.

But in the real world, convective overturning is the RESPONSE to this GHE destabilization! So, that 33 deg. GHE warming people talk about? That’s not the GHE. It’s the GHE + CONVECTION. Without convection, that 33 deg. C figure would be more like 65 or 75 deg. C. Which then leads to another fascinating question…

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE ATMOSPHERE DID NOT ABSORB AND EMIT IR ENERGY?

Imagine a cold planetary atmosphere with no energy input. Then, turn on the sun. Solar heating of the surface would warm the atmosphere through convective overturning. But the [deep] atmosphere would have no way to shed that energy to cool in the presence of all of that energy input. The temperature of the [deep] atmosphere would then continue to rise until it had the same temperature as the surface, through its entire depth. Long before that process finished convective overturning would have stopped, because the atmosphere would be too stable to support convection. The atmosphere would eventually become isothermal (or nearly so, since there might be some planetary scale overturning between the tropics and the poles, due to their different rates of solar input), with the same temperature as the surface. Interestingly, as a result all weather activity would cease. All clouds would probably disappear, resulting in higher temperatures. Any [remaining] circulation systems would have a planetary scale, because the horizontal scale of those systems are related to the lapse rate (through the “Rossby radius of deformation”), which is also why the stratosphere only has planetary-scale circulations.

-Roy

The End of Official Climate Alarmism (Guest: Dr. Judith Curry) – The Climate Realism Show #167

The Heartland Institute’s Anthony Watts, Sterling Burnett, Linnea Lueken, and Jim Lakely will be joined by Dr. Judith Curry, president of Climate Forecast Applications Network (CFAN). Dr. Curry is one of America’s most prominent climate scientists and a co-author of the Department of Energy’s critical review.

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This is a historic week—historically catastrophic for climate alarmists who have bullied their way through every institution in the United States and around the world. Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency formally announced, at long last, that it will repeal the so-called “Endangerment Finding” for carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. The EPA has determined that GHGs are not pollution and that their emissions from human activity do not pose a threat to human health. On the same day, Trump’s Department of Energy released a “critical review of impacts of GHG emissions on the U.S. climate.” This marks the first time ever that a climate report from the federal government can withstand scientific scrutiny, as it is based on actual science and data rather than politics or any particular agenda.

The Heartland Institute’s Anthony Watts, Sterling Burnett, Linnea Lueken, and Jim Lakely will be joined by Dr. Judith Curry, president of Climate Forecast Applications Network (CFAN). Dr. Curry is one of America’s most prominent climate scientists and a co-author of the Department of Energy’s critical review.

We will also cover some of the Crazy Climate News of the Week from around the world. Join us LIVE at 1 p.m. ET on YouTube, Rumble, and X, and we will answer your questions in the live chat.

Archive: Emails, Privilege Logs Suggest EPA’s Endangerment Finding Was Unlawfully Predetermined, Review Needed

Amid reports that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is reconsidering the December 2009 “Endangerment Finding” regarding greenhouse gases,[1] a recanvassing of emails obtained in the infamous “Richard Windsor” Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit brought over a dozen years ago by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) against the Agency[2] leads to a troubling conclusion: the Obama EPA’s regulatory “finding” that greenhouse gases endanger human health and welfare was the product of an illusory notice-and-comment process, and the agency predetermined its outcome because the relevant decisionmakers had unalterably closed minds.

From Watts Up With That?

Government Accountability & Oversight

By Webadmin

Amid reports that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is reconsidering the December 2009 “Endangerment Finding” regarding greenhouse gases,[1] a recanvassing of emails obtained in the infamous “Richard Windsor” Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit brought over a dozen years ago by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) against the Agency[2] leads to a troubling conclusion: the Obama EPA’s regulatory “finding” that greenhouse gases endanger human health and welfare was the product of an illusory notice-and-comment process, and the agency predetermined its outcome because the relevant decisionmakers had unalterably closed minds.

The Endangerment Finding is the basis for the entire “climate” regulatory edifice that has followed, not to mention the electricity reliability crisis we are now being warned about by reliability organizations such as the North American Electric Reliability Corp.

Putting aside the obvious imperative for revisiting the EF given the evolution of scientific understanding and increasing disparity between the claims serving as the basis for the EF and subsequent scientific observations casting doubt on its evidentiary foundations, none of the proposed reforms to that climate regulatory state are likely to be durable if the Endangerment Finding remains in place. All of the regulatory reforms will be short-term and, ultimately, for naught. Electricity reliability crises will indeed be the new normal.

Reviewing the Agency’s internal record for procedural improprieties is a responsible step in reconsidering any prior or pending action. This is particularly important given what we have learned about the Obama and Biden EPA and other agencies deployed in the facially unconstitutional “whole of government” approach to imposing this climate agenda, despite the whole of government not being authorized to implement such policy and, per West Virginia v. EPA, even the EPA not having been authorized to do most of what it is trying to do post-EF.

And these emails, and privilege logs of randomly selected (by EPA) withheld-in-full records from CEI’s FOIA litigation suggest that there is a sound basis for believing the Obama team proceeded with a predetermined outcome in mind, and that the Endangerment Finding was the product of  unalterably closed minds such that there was no realistic chance the process would achieve any other result. That violates our due process requirements as affirmed in the Administrative Procedure Act.

Even given just that information, to protect the integrity of the rulemaking process and hopefully guard against further adventurism in the future, it is clear that any reconsideration should also consider what the internal discussions reveal about the original propriety of this action in this respect.

Endangerment Finding Timeline

10.20.99          International Center for Technology Assessment submits petition to EPA seeking regulation of GHGs under § 202(a) of the CAA. This was denied in Sept. 2003, then winded its way through DC Cir. litigation, where that court upheld the denial.

4.02.07            SCOTUS holds 5-4 in Massachusetts v. EPA that the CAA definition of “air pollutant” contemplates GHGs, and that the Administrator must determine whether emissions of greenhouse gases from new motor vehicles cause or contribute to air pollution, which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health or welfare, or whether the science is too uncertain to make that decision.

It did not order EPA to regulate GHGs, but to set forth a reasoned basis for doing so or not doing so.

12.18.08          EPA Administrator Johnson finds no endangerment, focusing specifically on stationary source permitting requirements, as set forth in the 19-page “Johnson memo”.

1.21.09            Obama administration takes office at noon.

1.29.09            Principal advisor to the Administrator on legislative climate issues and former green-group (NRDC) lawyer, David McIntosh, reports to the Administrator Lisa Jackson (under her false-identity email account in the name of “Richard Windsor”) and Lisa Heinzerling[3] about the second of two scheduled meetings with [          REDACTED        ]            climate modelers. [     REDACTED    ].”

1.30.09            Scheduled “Briefing on the response to the Endangerment issue from Mass. v EPA“

2.08.09            Lisa Heinzerling sends “Richard Windsor” a “power plants memo”, withheld in full (WIF)

2.09.09            Jackson, McIntosh call with White House climate advisor “Carol Browner to discuss Coal Plants”

2.16.09            Emails, heavily redacted, discuss how much and what to say to NYT’s Broder in interview the next day. Redactions include discussion of endangerment. State, re that interview: “SUBJECT: Handshake meeting; Opportunity to outline agenda; endangerment”

2.16.09            Jackson writes to Heinzerling, Subject: Good news re: Johnson memo, “The Sierra Club and other petitioners who have challenged the Johnson memo on PSD will NOT be asking the court to stay the memo tomorrow. [            REDACTED     (two lines )                    ]. Have a good night.”

Heinzerling responds, “Wow. How did you pull THAT off?”

That seems a very good question.

2.18.09            NYT’s Broder publishes story “EPA to regulate Greenhouse gases”. Story quotes Jackson saying mind not made up but Mass. v EPA anniversary was coming up, which she calls “momentous,” saying “We have to lay out a road map.”

EPA redacted several emails, shielding discussion of same.

2.22.09            Vaughn index shows several email discussions of Endangerment, between Administrator and Heinzerling, WIF, as was email with same and public affairs chief discussing when and how to tell public about EF

2.23.09            Email from Bob Sussman to Windsor, Heinzerling, McIntosh, Subject: “OMB/Endangerment Finding”, refers to recommendation for “one important item” from Michael Fitzpatrick of OIRA (OMB) for proceeding with the Endangerment Finding

Heinzerling responds, “We’re planning on doing this.”

See 2.26.09 email to White House re same. This shows EF was well in the works one month into office.

2.26.09            Email from Heinzerling to “Windsor”, McIntosh, states that EF will be made, even though it was at the time purportedly just something under consideration, and that Agency can proceed w tailpipe regs (subject of Mass. V. EPA) while EF is underway

2.26.09            EPA tells Heather Zichal, deputy WH coordinator for climate and energy policy, that the EF will be made, they will get OMB to expedite its review and gives the timeline for going final

3.05.09            Vaughn index shows email discussions of Endangerment, between Administrator and Heinzerling, WIF

3.10.09            Vaughn index shows email discussions of Endangerment, between Administrator and Heinzerling, WIF

3.12.09            Al McGartland, director of EPA’s National Center for Environmental Economics, emails (soon-to-be) whistleblower Alan Carlin, “In light of the tight schedule and the turn of events, please do not have any direct communication with anyone outside of NCEE on endangerment.“

3.13.09            Vaughn index shows string of emails about drafting memo to POTUS re EF, Heinserling and Windsor, Attachment: “Presidential Decision Memo endangerment LH 3-15 – redline.doc”. Other entries show this thread continues on 3.16.09 and 3.22.09, including David McIntosh

3.16.09            Subject: Comments on the Endangerment TSD, copying more Agency officials, Carlin presses for inclusion of what are later described as “not helpful” comments contradicting what the administration has decided to do

3.17.09            More WIF email between Windsor and Heinzerling, “Endangerment”

3.17.09            McGartland emails Carlin, Subject: endangerment comments???  stating he did not forward Carlin’s input and stated, inter alia, “The administrator and the administration has decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal of policy case for this decision.”

3.20.09            More WIF email between Windsor and Heinzerling, “Endangerment”

3.22.09            WIF emails between Windsor, Heinzerling, PR chief, “Endangerment”

3.202-23.09     WIF email between Windsor, Heinzerling, PR chief, on the matter of public hearings on “the endangerment finding”, which the records states had not yet been made

4.07.09            Lisa Jackson (“Richard Windsor”) trying to get time w David Axelrod to message EF

4.24.09            EPA proposes EF

6.09                 Alan Carlin whistleblowing. 6.24.09 email re same, and having not been presented with the questions about Carlin allegations “we had been worried about.”

12.03.09          Vaughn index shows East Anglia (i.e., ClimateGate) Talking Points

12.05.09          Memo, redacted (first in full, then merely heavily), Tough Qs and As, “Issues raised regarding the Climate Research Unit (CRU) University of East Anglia.”

Fully redacts “Relevance to EPA and the Endangerment Finding.”

12.15.09          EPA publishes “Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act.”

9.26.11            OIG report requested by Ranking EPW Member Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), “Procedural Review of EPA ‘s Greenhouse Gases Endangerment Finding Data Quality Processes”—which found, among other procedural deficiencies, that the EF “should have been peer reviewed as” required by implementing guidance for the Information Quality Act but was not—states, inter alia, in its discussion “OAR Did Not Follow Some Steps in the Action Development Process”:

“EPA initiated a formal action development process for the stand-alone greenhouse gases endangerment finding in early March 2009,” and “OAR [Office of Air and Radiation] began the action development process for the stand-alone endangerment finding in March 2009…”, citing no other point of note in the history of considering an EF between March 2009 and July 2008;

 and

“in the endangerment finding EPA described the April 2009 TSD as the “underlying scientific and technical basis” for the Administrator’s proposed findings.”

[1] Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, December 7, 2009, Docket ID No. EPA-HQ-OAR-2009-0171, https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-05/documents/federal_register-epa-hq-oar-2009-0171-dec.15-09.pdf.

[2] Competitive Enterprise Institute v. EPA (DDC), Case No. 1:12-cv-01617 (JEB).

[3] Ms. Heinzerling, who authored Massachusetts et al.’s brief in the Massachusetts v. EPA case, was brought in to the administration immediately and set to work on this matter for the first approximately seven months as “Administrator Jackson’s chief advisor on climate matters” (apparently until “reinforcements have arrived”

Reversing the Endangerment Finding: Burying the Union of Concerned Scientists Case Against It

The Trump EPA is planning to reconsider the 2009 Obama EPA Endangerment Finding (EF) that labeled greenhouse gas emissions as a threat to public health. Here is the first effort by a leftist group against that.

From Watts Up With That?

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Steve Milloy,

The Trump EPA is planning to reconsider the 2009 Obama EPA Endangerment Finding (EF) that labeled greenhouse gas emissions as a threat to public health. Here is the first effort [Web | PDF] by a leftist group against that. Let’s take a look at it, line-by line with my comments [bracketed in bold].

In a blitz of destructive actions [Destructive to the green agenda, that is] announced by EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin last month, he specifically called for a reconsideration of the 2009 Endangerment Finding. A formal proposal for reconsideration of the Finding (and all the agency regulations and actions that depend on it) is expected this month. [Don’t look for the proposal this month or even next month.] The science underpinning the Endangerment Finding is airtight [It’s about as airtight as a butterfly net.], but that won’t stop the Trump administration from setting up a rigged process [Psychologists call this “projection.” It was the Obama EPA that rigged the process in 2009.] to try to undo it and give a blank check to polluters [Greenhouse gases are colorless and odorless. Carbon dioxide is plant food. Calling emissions pollution has no basis in reality.] The Union of Concerned Scientists will fight back to defend climate science and protect public health safeguards. [Good luck based on the falsehoods offered so far.]

In an earlier post, I laid out some of the history and context for the 2009 science-backed Endangerment Finding and the Cause or Contribute Finding. [I’ll have to address that next.] These findings followed from the landmark 2007 Mass v. EPA Supreme Court ruling which held that greenhouse gas emissions are unambiguously air pollutants covered by the Clean Air Act. [Massachusetts v. EPA was incorrectly decided. Congress never authorized EPA to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. Clean Air Act co-author Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) explained that here.] Together, these establish the clear basis for EPA’s authority and responsibility to set pollutions limits for heat-trapping emissions from vehicles, power plants and other sources of these pollutants, under the Clean Air Act. [The actual holding of Massachusetts v. EPA is that EPA may but doesn’t have to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. EPA is free to reverse its 2009 EF.]

Attacks on the Endangerment Finding and EPA’s Clean Air Act authority from industry interests are nothing new. Importantly, courts have repeatedly upheld both, including in a resounding 2012 decision from the U.S. Court of Appeals–D.C. Circuit in Citizens for Responsible Regulation v. EPA. [EF science has never actually been reviewed by a court because federal judges decided long ago to defer to agency science decisions.] But those who have long sought to overturn or weaken regulations to limit heat-trapping emissions [There is no scientific evidence showing that emissions have trapped any heat whatsoever.] now have Administrator Zeldin in their corner. [President Trump has determined that climate is a hoax. Administrator Zeldin is implementing administration policy.] And he has shown himself to be an unbridled purveyor of disinformation and proponent of harmful attacks on bedrock public health protections, [There is no scientific evidence that emissions threaten public health.] as my colleague Julie McNamara highlights.

The details of what will be included in the reconsideration proposal are unclear at this point. But we do know some of the trumped-up lines of attack the Zeldin EPA could advance to try to invalidate these Findings because many of these tired arguments are outlined in EPA’s reconsideration announcement.

Here are the facts:

Fact #1: The science backing the Endangerment Finding is beyond dispute [There is nothing but dispute about EF “science.” There is no science demonstrating that emissions have any effect other than as plant food (carbon dioxide).]

Every major scientific society endorses the scientific consensus on human-caused climate change driven by GHG emissions. [Every major scientific society has been taken over by leftist climate hoaxers.] The Fifth National Climate Assessment and the IPCC’s Sixth Assessment Report are two major recent authoritative summaries of peer-reviewed climate science, which show that the science on climate change has only become more dire and compelling since 2009. [These reports are not science but propaganda. Science is not conducted by consensus nor is there anything authoritative about so-called “climate science.” No climate model has correct predicted anything. No climate prediction has ever come true.]

The impacts of climate change on human health are also starkly clear and backed by overwhelming evidence. [What “climate change” is being referred to and what evidence is there that emissions are responsible for it?] Here’s the main finding from the NCA5 chapter on public health, for instance:

Climate change is harming physical, mental, spiritual, and community health [Assertions are not science.] through the increasing frequency and intensity of extreme events, [No sort of weather even correlates with emissions on a climatic scale.] higher incidences of infectious and vector-borne diseases, [No disease rates correlate with emissions on a climatic scale.] and declines in food and water security. [Thanks to emissions, the world is carrying more people who are consuming more food and water than ever.] These impacts worsen social inequities. [Thanks to emissions, there are more people living healthier, wealthier, longer and freer lives than ever before.] Emissions reductions, effective adaptation measures, and climate-resilient health systems can protect human health and improve health equity. [Emissions reductions have never occurred and there its no evidence that anyone or anything would be better off with fewer emissions.]

As just one example, climate change is contributing to worsening extreme heat which exerts a punishing toll on people’s health, including that of outdoor workers. Heat is already the leading cause of extreme weather-related deaths in the United States and studies show that heat-related mortality is on the rise. [We know from US data that there is no correlation between emissions and heatwaves. Heatwaves have actually been declining in the US over the past 90 years.]

Looking around the nation, with communities reeling from extreme heatwaves, intensified hurricanes, catastrophic wildfires and record flooding, climate impacts are the lived reality of all too many people. [No sort of weather event, extreme or not, correlates with emissions.] To deny that or obfuscate about the underlying causes is not only disingenuous, but actively harmful and outright cruel. [Eyeroll.]

Fact #2: The law requires an independent scientific determination of endangerment, unhindered by cost considerations

A Finding of Endangerment under the Clean Air Act is specifically focused on a threshold scientific determination of whether the pollutant under consideration harms public health or welfare. Costs to industry of meeting any subsequent regulations are not relevant per the statute. [The only true sentences so far.]

The original Endangerment Finding was reached in the context of the vehicle emissions, per section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, partially excerpted below:

The Administrator shall by regulation prescribe (and from time to time revise) in accordance with the provisions of this section, standards applicable to the emission of any air pollutant from any class or classes of new motor vehicles or new motor vehicle engines, which in his judgment cause, or contribute to, air pollution which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health or welfare.

In its 2012 decision, the DC Circuit was also clear is noting that “By employing the verb “shall,” Congress vested a non-discretionary duty in EPA.” That duty is not circumscribed by cost considerations. [If there is no EF, then the “shall” is not relevant to greenhouse gas emissions.]

Of course, the impacts of climate change are themselves incredibly costly and those costs are mounting as heat-trapping emissions rise. [Global GDP has increased 447% since the climate hoax began around 1990. There is absolutely no harm to anyone or anything that can be scientifically attributed to emissions.] Unsurprisingly, the social cost of greenhouse gases, a science-based estimate of those costs, is another metric that the Trump EPA is seeking to undermine in yet another blatant attempt to put a thumb on the scale in favor of polluting industries. [There is no such thing as a “social cost of greenhouse gases.” There is only a social benefit.“]

Fact #3: EPA used well-established methodologies in its assessment of six GHGs

As noted in the 2009 endangerment finding, the EPA defined the pollutant contributing to climate change as “the aggregate group of the well-mixed greenhouse gases” with similar attributes. The attributes include that they are sufficiently long-lived, directly emitted, contribute to climate warming and are a focus of science and policy. [There was in 2009, and there remains no evidence that greenhouse gas emissions have had any effect on the atmosphere.]

The EPA used a very well-established scientific methodology to combine emissions of GHGs on the basis of their heat-trapping potential, measured in CO2 equivalents. In the case of passenger cars, light- and heavy-duty trucks, buses, and motorcycles—the transportation sources EPA considered for the original endangerment finding—they emitted four key greenhouse gases: carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and hydrofluorocarbons. [You may add, subtract, multiply or divide emissions anyway you want. There is no evidence they cause any harm.]

False, glib claims in the reconsideration announcement baselessly accuse the 2009 Endangerment Finding of making “creative leaps” and “mysterious” choices. There is nothing mysterious about the heat-trapping attributes of greenhouse gases, nor their impact on public health. It’s called science. Once again, relying on the mountain of evidence in the peer-reviewed scientific literature would make that readily apparent. [It is important to distinguish between greenhouse gases and emissions of them. Carbon dioxide, for example, is an important greenhouse gas. But its effects fall off dramatically toward zero as concentrations increase in the atmosphere. We are at a point where effects of emissions, if there are any, are not measurable.]

Fact #4: EPA has the responsibility and authority to regulate major sources of GHGs [Once again, under Massachusetts v. EPA, EPA only “may” regulate greenhouse gases. It has no “responsibility” to do so. and its “authority” is in doubt.]

The Cause or Contribute Finding—which specifically established that greenhouse gas emissions from new vehicles contribute to the pollution that harms public health—may also come under attack. This finding has been extended to other major sources of GHGs, including power plants and oil and gas operations. However, the Trump administration could attempt to use accounting tricks to avoid regulating emissions—as it has tried before. [Indeed. With the EF reversed, all federal climate regulations;ation will come to a halt.]

In its first term, the administration attempted multiple underhanded maneuvers along these lines, including in the context of methane and VOC regulations in the oil and gas sector . For these regulations, the administration split up segments of the source category, designated them as separate source categories, used that manipulation to claim inability to regulate certain segments, and asserted that methane emissions from the remaining segments were too small and regulating them would not provide additional benefits, so those too could not be regulated. Separately, in the final days of the administration, EPA released an absurd framework attempting to set thresholds for determining “significance,” trialed in the context of power plants.

This irrational approach could be used to artificially segment components of power plants or the power system, for example, and then claim no regulations are required. This kind of rigged math wouldn’t fool a kindergarten child but there’s no telling where this administration might go in its desperate attempt to undo or weaken regulations on greenhouse gas emissions. [None of this is relevant to the EF.]

Zeldin’s relentless subversion of EPA’s mission [EPA has no “mission”. It was never established by Congress, only by Nixon Executive order. It is not subversion to end mindless, junk science-fueled over-regulation.]

Under Administrator Zeldin, EPA’s mission to protect public health and the environment has been completely subverted. His shocking rhetoric lays bare how far he will go to protect polluters at the expense of the public. Here he is, for instance, crowing about going after 31+ EPA regulations and guidance, as well as the enforcement of pollution standards meant to protect all of us:

“Today is the greatest day of deregulation our nation has seen. We are driving a dagger straight into the heart of the climate change religion…”

EPA even set up an email address for polluters to send an email to get a presidential exemption from complying with regulations on toxic pollution, such as mercury emissions, regulated under the Clean Air Act! [Not relevant to the EF.]

Zeldin is fervently committed to dismantling public health protections and rolling back enforcement of existing laws passed by Congress. Going after the Endangerment Finding is an integral part of this all-out assault because, in the Trump administration’s harmful calculation, revoking the Finding is a potential means to rolling back all the regulations that depend on it. [Still no evidence that emissions are harming anyone or anything.]

Ironically, some utilities and oil and gas companies have spoken out in favor of keeping the Finding intact, as they fear a greater risk of climate damages lawsuits in the absence of EPA authority to regulate greenhouse gases. Of course, this just exposes that they know their products are causing damage. What they seek is the weakest possible exercise of EPA authority so they can continue to reap profits while evading accountability for those harms. [Big Oil, utilities and other big companies want to leave the EF in place so they can steal the taxpayer subsidies through the Green New Scam.]

We can fight back with science [Climate hoaxers have zero science on their side. Their emissions-driven models don’t work. None of their predictions have come true.]

But none of this is a foregone conclusion. The legal and scientific basis for the Endangerment Finding is incredibly strong. The false claims Zeldin and other opponents have trotted out are full of bombast but weak on substance. [Still waiting for the evidence.]

The science on climate change is so indisputably well-established, that it’s hard to see how any court would uphold a challenge to it. That’s not to say Zeldin won’t try to find a cabal of fringe “scientists” to try to attack it, but they’re unlikely to succeed on the merits. [We will certainly find out if/when the issue gets to the Supreme Court.]

Public comments on the proposal to reconsider the Endangerment Finding can help set the record straight on facts. And if the Zeldin EPA ignores them and finalizes a sham Finding or revokes the Finding with a faulty rationale, that will be challenged in court. [Good luck.]

UCS will be closely following the details of EPA’s proposal to reconsider the Endangerment Finding when it is released. And we will let you know how you can add your voice to bolster this crucial science-based Finding, and the public health protections that flow from it. [There is no “science-based finding” nor any “public health protections that flow from it.”] So, stay tuned! [EF defenders have a whole lot of nothing to support the 2009 Obama EPA determination.]