Wikipedia’s Founder Gets the Wikipedia Treatment: “…if you aren’t with us, STFU.”

Larry Sanger blocked from editing the encyclopedia he helped create

If you ever needed another example of how far Wikipedia has drifted from its original mission of neutrality and open participation, consider the latest development: Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has reportedly been indefinitely blocked from editing the site he helped create.

From Watts Up With That?

By Anthony Watts

Larry Sanger blocked from editing the encyclopedia he helped create

If you ever needed another example of how far Wikipedia has drifted from its original mission of neutrality and open participation, consider the latest development: Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has reportedly been indefinitely blocked from editing the site he helped create.

According to a New York Post report, Sanger’s offense appears to have been promoting what he calls “intellectual diversity” on the platform and encouraging broader participation from viewpoints that have often found themselves marginalized by Wikipedia’s increasingly ideological editor class.

Sanger launched “WikiProject Intellectual Diversity” with the stated goal of restoring Wikipedia’s original commitment to neutrality, transparency, and balanced representation of differing viewpoints. Instead of welcoming that effort, Wikipedia’s volunteer administrators responded by blocking him indefinitely from editing.

The irony is impossible to miss.

The man who coined the name “Wikipedia,” helped write its foundational policies, and co-founded the project in 2001 has now been judged unfit to participate in the encyclopedia he helped build.

Sanger’s Complaint Sounds Familiar

Sanger told the Post he was “flabbergasted” by the decision and described Wikipedia’s governance structure as resembling a “mob or a blob,” where editors often defer to group consensus rather than consistent application of rules.

He further argued that disciplinary actions on Wikipedia lack meaningful due process, with anonymous administrators acting as investigator, prosecutor, judge, and jury. Anyone who has watched Wikipedia’s handling of controversial topics over the last decade will find these criticisms unsurprising.

The encyclopedia still markets itself as a collaborative project written by hundreds of thousands of volunteers. Yet Sanger argues that actual control rests with a remarkably small cadre of administrators, many operating anonymously. The Post notes Sanger’s long-standing contention that a tiny group of editors exercises disproportionate influence over content and editorial decisions.

Climate Skeptics Learned This Lesson Years Ago

For readers of WUWT, none of this is news.

Wikipedia’s climate-related articles have been exhibiting ideological bias for years. Articles dealing with climate science, climate policy, skepticism, energy policy, and individual scientists routinely present one side of complex scientific and political debates while minimizing or dismissing competing viewpoints. Editors who attempt to add sourced material that challenges prevailing narratives often discover that neutrality operates in only one direction.

Wikipedia’s “reliable sources” framework has increasingly become a mechanism for enforcing ideological conformity. Sources that align with establishment positions are frequently elevated, while dissenting voices are categorized as unreliable regardless of the quality of their underlying arguments or evidence.

The result is a system where consensus is often treated as proof and where political alignment frequently determines editorial outcomes. That tendency becomes especially obvious in climate-related topics, where Wikipedia has long functioned less as an encyclopedia and more as a narrative-enforement platform.

I have experienced this firsthand.

Wikipedia contains falsehoods and misleading claims on my own biography page. Despite being the subject of the article and possessing direct knowledge of the factual errors involved, I am effectively unable to make corrections.

Wikipedia’s conflict-of-interest rules make it extraordinarily difficult for subjects of articles to fix inaccuracies, while anonymous editors with no direct knowledge of the facts are granted final authority over what remains published. The practical effect is that errors can persist indefinitely if they serve the preferred narrative of the editor community. This is one reason many public figures have largely given up trying to correct misinformation about themselves on Wikipedia.

Now even one of Wikipedia’s founders appears unable to challenge the prevailing editorial culture.

The Sanger episode illustrates a deeper issue.

Institutions often begin with noble goals and gradually become captured by those most committed to advancing particular ideological objectives. Over time, procedural neutrality gives way to political enforcement, and diversity of thought becomes less important than conformity of opinion. When the co-founder of Wikipedia can be indefinitely blocked for advocating intellectual diversity, it becomes difficult to maintain the fiction that Wikipedia remains the politically neutral reference source it claims to be.

The encyclopedia remains useful for many technical and non-political topics. But on subjects involving politics, culture, energy, climate, COVID, gender issues, or any other controversial area, readers should approach Wikipedia with considerable skepticism.

The safest approach to Wikipedia is simple:

  • Never rely on Wikipedia as a primary source.
  • Follow citations to original documents.
  • Read competing viewpoints.
  • Check primary data whenever possible.

And when the annual fundraising banners appear urging you to donate in order to “protect free knowledge,” remember that free knowledge requires intellectual diversity, open debate, and a willingness to tolerate disagreement. Wikipedia has none of that now.

Wikipedia has no factual capital left, it’s time for it to go the way of the Dodo.

AI chat bots are automated Wikipedias warts and all

Having worked on the I side of AI, off and on, for over 50 years, I am fascinated by the wave of chatbots that are getting so much debate beginning with Chat GPT. To get my fair share of abuse, here are some thoughts on it.

From CFACT

By David Wojick

Having worked on the I side of AI, off and on, for over 50 years, I am fascinated by the wave of chatbots that are getting so much debate beginning with Chat GPT. To get my fair share of abuse, here are some thoughts on it.

Just like Wikipedia, these machines are there to answer your questions. But their corpus is probably enormously larger—how big I have no idea. An interesting question is: One would like to know what body of documentation a given chat bot is working from, and how this differs from bot to bot.

Question-answering systems have been around for a while now. They really hit their stride when a bot called IBM Watson creamed two human champions in a 2011 Jeopardy match.

What is impressive is that the new bots provide long form answers along the lines of a Wikipedia article. But then you can also question the article, asking for more. You can even disagree and debate the issue. This is truly amazing.

What seems to surprise or disappoint a lot of people is that these bot answers can be wrong, or biased, or even deliberate lies. I am sure this is not deliberate, but when it comes to emulating humans, which is what AI is supposed to do, it is right on the money.

After all, there is a lot of bad information out there for the bot to use. And being biased by your training is nothing new. The lying looks at this point to be a mystery which is very interesting. Certainly a good research topic.

In fact, there is a lot of research going on into these bots and their potential (for good or evil). Google Scholar says there are already over 15,000 journal articles that mention Chat GPT, with about 600 that have it in the title making it the central focus of the research.

See https://scholar.google.com/

All of this means that one must be cautious in using a chat bot, just as with Wikipedia or any source for that matter. Bias and falsehood are constant companions of human affairs.

In particular, Chat GPT is heavily biased in the climate and energy area, being basically an artificial alarmist. The other bots likely are too. But so is Wikipedia and for the same reason. All are controlled by alarmists.

But unlike most alarmists, these chat bots are happy (can I say that?) to discuss and debate the climate and energy issues. They will even admit being wrong, which might be a rare human trait. So one use is for skeptics to test their arguments, learning and overcoming the false alarmist counter-arguments. This could strengthen skepticism.

Unfortunately, while a bot can be convinced to agree with a skeptical argument, they do not seem to learn from that experience. They give the same alarmist response the next time queried. Maybe the next wave will do better.

I have no idea how the bots actually work, but from my side, it is not hard to go from simple question answering to long-form answers. Back in 1973, I discovered how sentences fit together when we write and speak.

At the simplest, each sentence after the first is answering an unspoken question posed to one of the prior sentences. Since there can be multiple answers to a given question and multiple questions posed to the same sentence, this generates a tree structure I named the “issue tree”.

There are two major exceptions. One is objections, and the other is when we start talking about what has been said instead of talking about the subject under discussion. These can make issues complicated and thus confusing.

So, to craft a many-sentence response to your question, the bot just has to repeatedly pose questions to the sentences it has so far and add the answers as new sentences. To do that, it just needs a question generator to complement its answer generator.

However they do it, chatbots are amazing to me. Each is a Wikipedia-like machine that, unlike Wikipedia, is not bound by what has already been written for it. Of course, they can do damage, just as Wikipedia can, so caution is called for.

Wikipedia changed the world of knowing, and chatbots are likely to also, only more so.

Elon Musk offers Wikipedia $1 billion to make an absolutely hilarious name change

I will give them a billion dollars if they change their name to Dickipedia- Elon Musk

From  CFACT

BY KAY SMITH:

Elon Musk said Sunday that he’d give Wikipedia $1 billion if the organization changed its name to “Dickipedia.”

It feels like it’s been a hot minute since Musk stepped out from behind … I have literally no idea where he lives, or what he does in his work time … anyway, Musk is finally back in action with an amazing troll of Wikipedia. It seemed to all start with Musk asking why the Wikimedia Foundation wants so much money. “It certainly isn’t needed to operate Wikipedia. You can literally fit a copy of the entire text on your phone!” Musk wrote on Twitter.

He then shared a screenshot of Wikipedia’s endless cringe claw for cash, which presents itself as a desperate message from the site’s founder, Jimmy Wales. Musk accompanied the post with a sleepy-face emoji, which seemed to be about how boring this plea is (even though some really, really intelligent people fall for Wales’ bullshit and donate to this uselessly biased website).

About 30 minutes after this tweet, Musk offered to give the organization $1 billion dollars. That amount of money should theoretically be enough to fund the site until the artificially intelligent robots and lizard people finally decide to kill us all and live in the wealth we created for them.

There’s just one catch: Wales would have to change the name of his site to “Dickipedia” in order to get the cash. “(Please add that to the [bullshit] on my wiki page),” Musk stated, seemingly pissed off at whatever Wales has allowed to spew all over his site.

Unhinged Musk is basically the only thing I like to see on the internet other than videos of kittens, puppies, other animals, and those military reunion videos. It would be great if he kept coming out with this stuff because then I’d have more fun… so… yeah.

This article originally appeared at The Daily Caller

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British Government Funds Campaign to Rewrite Climate Science Entries on Wikipedia

A major rewriting of the science published on Wikipedia that is sceptical of the ‘settled’ climate narrative is being funded by a number of Governments from Scandinavia and the U.K. The operation is being directed by the green activist group, the Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI), under a project titled ‘Improving communication of climate knowledge through Wikipedia’.

From The Daily Sceptic

By CHRIS MORRISON

A major rewriting of the science published on Wikipedia that is sceptical of the ‘settled’ climate narrative is being funded by a number of Governments from Scandinavia and the U.K. The operation is being directed by the green activist group, the Stockholm Environment Institute (SEI), under a project titled ‘Improving communication of climate knowledge through Wikipedia’.

The operation targets climate change pages that have significant daily page views. The SEI notes that Wikipedia articles usually appear at the top of internet search results, and the site plays a “key role” in helping promote climate change knowledge. “The improvement of the key articles making use of available scientific expertise is necessary,” it says.

The key word of course is “improvement” but, alas, a brief list of the “content experts” does not inspire confidence that rigorous dissemination of all climate science views will prevail. For instance, Kristie L. Ebi from the University of Washington has the curious notion that rising concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are “affecting the nutritional quality of our food”. Poor old CO2 you might feel. It gets a shocking press these days but few doubt its role as the gas of life, whose 60% reduction in the atmosphere would lead to the swift removal of all plant and life forms on Earth.

Elizabeth Gilmore of Carleton University, another of SEI’s “content experts”, runs a class on inspiring young eco-activists. She recently wrote that after Greta Thunberg “admonished” delegates at COP24, “it has become increasingly apparent that university students feel the brunt of multiple and interlinked existential crises of climate change, biodiversity, persistent inequality, inequity and economic precarity”.

The SEI project includes academics who have “scientific and climate change expertise”. In fact the ‘expertise’ seems to tend towards the burgeoning world of eco bureaucracy, consultancy and green activism. All the parties collaborate by revising and cutting text, proposing new content and adding new references. There is also interaction with published experts, “who advise us on necessary content edits”.

The Stockholm Environment Institute was founded in 1989 by the Swedish government to “support decision-making and induce changes towards sustainable development around the world”. It claims to provide this by supplying knowledge that bridges science and policy in the field of environmentalism and development. Its green activism is well supported by governments and many interested parties including Left-wing billionaire foundations. According to figures publicly revealed, it received over £11 million in 2020 from Swedish government interests, and £1.5 million from Norway. The British government even supplied £326,000 of funding it says in its 2022 report.

SEI is closely connected with the United Nations and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Its Chairman, appointed by the Swedish government, is Lennart Bage, the former Co-Chair of the U.N. Green Climate Fund (GCF) that aims to raise $100 billion a year to pay for green boondoggles in the developing world. Signing off his chairmanship of the GCF in 2019, Bage noted that “we have moved from millions to billions but we need to move to trillions”. Some of the content experts for the Wikipedia re-education programme come from the U.N., the IPCC and the Conference of the Parties (COP).

Recently, the U.N. Under-Secretary for Global Communications, Melissa Fleming, told delegates at a World Economic Forum ‘disinformation’ seminar that her organisation had partnered with Google to ensure only U.N.-approved climate search results appear at the top. In chilling tones, she explained: “We are becoming more proactive, we own the science and the world should know it.” In the context of this remark, the disclosure that a concerted attempt is being made to propagandise Wiki pages is unsurprising. Across all media, collectivist-minded operations funded by a wide variety of sources including governments, NGOs, foundations and wealthy individuals are rewriting the climate narrative with the help of mainstream media to suit a drive to Net Zero and economic and societal change. Advertising boycott campaigns face any individual media operation that steps out of line, academic careers are held back, fatuous ‘fact-check’ attacks are launched, school text books are rewritten and massive green scare campaigns are launched on an almost daily basis.

What is truly depressing is that the Conservative Party is often to be found at the front of the queue when it comes to handing out taxpayer cash to fund climate and woke campaigns. Providing money to alter Wiki pages is just the latest misuse of taxpayers’ hard earned money. In February, the Daily Sceptic reported that the British Foreign Office was helping to fund the Global Disinformation Index (GDI), which was circulating a ‘blocklist’ of conservative publications including the American Spectator and the New York Post.

As we noted at the time, one of the reasons the GDI posed such a threat to free speech was that its definition of ‘disinformation’ is unusually capacious. It doesn’t just mean information that is false and dissemination by people knowing it’s false. It has broadened the definition to include what it calls “adversarial narratives”.

Just weep for the death of science – “adversarial narratives” no longer required.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.