{"id":443461,"date":"2026-05-11T00:08:13","date_gmt":"2026-05-11T07:08:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=443461"},"modified":"2026-05-11T00:18:28","modified_gmt":"2026-05-11T07:18:28","slug":"two-bets-on-the-future-of-wind-energy-who-is-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=443461","title":{"rendered":"Two Bets On The Future Of Wind Energy: Who Is Right?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"485\" data-attachment-id=\"443463\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=443463\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?fit=1168%2C784&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1168,784\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0 Two Bets On The Future Of Wind Energy Who Is Right\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?fit=723%2C485&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?resize=723%2C485&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-443463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?resize=1024%2C687&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?resize=300%2C201&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?resize=768%2C516&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?resize=640%2C430&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?w=1168&amp;ssl=1 1168w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2026-5-6-two-bets-on-the-future-of-wind-energy-who-is-right\">Manhattan Contrarian<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/?author=503a7965e4b0b543ed24305c\">Francis Menton<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Two articles from the New York Times in the past couple of days describe the widening divergence between the approaches taken by the U.S. and China on the subject of wind energy. I apologize that these pieces are behind the Times\u2019s paywall, but remember that I subscribe there so that you don\u2019t have to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On Monday (May 4) the article was about the status of wind energy development in the U.S., with the headline <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/04\/climate\/wind-power-delays-trump-pentagon.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share\">\u201cMore Than 150 Wind Projects Stall as Pentagon Delays Reviews.\u201d<\/a><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong>Tuesday\u2019s (May 5) piece covered the same subject in China, headline <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/05\/business\/china-wind-turbines.html?smid=url-share\">\u201cChina\u2019s Big Bet on Wind Power Is Paying Off.\u201d<\/a><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These articles once again illustrate the extent to which the U.S. and its people are uniquely blessed in the world. Our biggest blessing is that we have been bequeathed by our forebears with the freest economy in the world, and with structural obstacles that make it very difficult for politicians to undo that. But almost as big a blessing is the total incompetence of our geo-political adversaries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The May 4 piece about the U.S. reports on the latest gambit by the Trump administration to shut down wind power development. The asserted basis is national security, and particularly the alleged interference of wind turbines with military radars and flight paths. Excerpt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The Trump administration is blocking more than 150 onshore wind farms across the United States by delaying military reviews that were once considered routine, according to a leading industry trade group. . . . [T]he administration has held up a large number of onshore wind projects under development on private land, citing national security concerns. These wind farms typically have to undergo a review by the Pentagon before being built to ensure that their turbines won\u2019t interfere with military radar or flight paths. In the past, those reviews have been fairly straightforward, but they have ground to a halt in recent weeks, and the Pentagon has canceled some meetings with developers. \u201cThe Department of War is currently making it almost impossible to build a new wind project in the United States,\u201d said Jason Grumet, chief executive of the American Clean Power Association, which represents renewable energy companies.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I do not know the extent to which the asserted basis for restricting wind power development is real versus pretextual. On the other hand, I would not be surprised at all to learn that wind turbines have at least some negative effects on military radars and flight paths. And evaluation of the extent of a real national security concern is something uniquely within the President\u2019s responsiblities, with the courts having little power to second guess. Meanwhile, these 100+ wind turbine projects, if they have been undertaken in time to qualify for tax credits that have now been terminated for newer projects, have the potential to cost the taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars over the next couple of decades, for nothing of any value. The administration has done us all a huge favor by preventing these projects from proceeding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Needless to say, the Times, and Mr. Grumet of the ACPA, don\u2019t see it that way:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The stalled projects together would have about 30 gigawatts of electric generating capacity if they were built, Mr. Grumet said. One gigawatt can provide enough electricity for more than 300,000 homes, although wind turbines can\u2019t produce power at all hours.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Somehow the Times and Mr. Grumet don\u2019t see it as a significant problem that wind turbines only work about 30-35% of the time. You may have a different view as to your own home or business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then we come to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/05\/05\/business\/china-wind-turbines.html?smid=url-share\">yesterday\u2019s piece<\/a> about how China\u2019s big bet on wind power is, supposedly, \u201cpaying off.\u201d How do we know that? Excerpt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Across China, hilltops are dotted with wind turbines, and long rows of them span many miles in western deserts. Ultrahigh-voltage power lines carry electricity thousands of miles to the energy-hungry factories along China\u2019s coast. Last year, China installed three times as much wind power capacity as the rest of the world combined, even as its turbine exports jumped. The global industry\u2019s center of gravity has shifted decisively: All of the world\u2019s six largest wind turbine manufacturers are Chinese, displacing once-dominant European firms and companies like General Electric. The war has made China\u2019s investments in wind look prescient. Its Asian neighbors, long reliant on Middle Eastern oil and gas, are struggling to secure fuel supplies. Meanwhile, China, with its massive reserves and modern electric grid, is better positioned to weather the energy crisis.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">OK, they have wind turbines all over the place. There are several pictures accompanying the article depicting huge and hideous wind farms in China. Here is one of them:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"443468\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=443468\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?fit=1988%2C1118&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1988,1118\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-443468\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=640%2C360&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?w=1988&amp;ssl=1 1988w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/image-92.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But how do you know that these wind farms are \u201cpaying off\u201d? Sorry, but there is no such thing as \u201cmassive reserves\u201d of wind power. The wind blows when it feels like blowing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So are all these wind turbines creating wealth or destroying it? In a market economy like ours, you get the answer to that question from profitability. If a project makes a profit after paying for factor inputs at prices determined by markets, then you have an excellent indication that the project is creating wealth. If the project loses money or requires subsidies to get built or to continue to operate, then you know that it is destroying wealth. So, how about the China wind projects? From the Times:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>An industrial policy of subsidies and import restrictions laid the foundations for China to become almost as dominant in wind turbines as in solar panels. . . . Chinese manufacturers, led by Envision Energy, are also gaining ground in India. Buoyed by tax incentives and government support, the country vies with the United States as the world\u2019s second-largest wind market, after China. . . . China\u2019s state-owned banks keep the renminbi weak against the euro, making Chinese wind turbines less expensive abroad.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So the industry has grown massive based on \u201ctax incentives,\u201d \u201cgovernment support\u201d [i.e., subsidies], \u201cimport restrictions,\u201d and currency manipulation. In other words, they have no way to measure whether they are creating or destroying wealth. However, since the \u201cincentives\u201d and subsidies are apparently necessary for the industry to survive, the odds that the industry is creating wealth are nil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This article does not mention anything about China\u2019s parallel and massive expansion of its coal power plant fleet over the past two decades, nor does it consider the question of why all those coal power plants are needed even though all this wind power capacity has been built. China is building two full overlapping and duplicative electricity generation systems, one of which works all the time and the other of which does not. Somebody has to pay for both of them. You can hide who\u2019s paying be concealing the cost in subsidies and tax incentives, but that does not change the fact that somebody is paying. So how does this add up to the wind turbines \u201cpaying off\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The article does provide the answer to why China might be spending billions on this uneconomic endeavor. Xi wants it!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cEnergy is a strategic issue in development \u2014 our pioneering development of wind power and solar technology has proved to be forward-looking,\u201d Xi Jinping, China\u2019s top leader, said in late March. . . . In a speech in July, Mr. Xi urged China to \u201cpromote the orderly and well-regulated expansion of offshore wind power.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It looks like Xi is no better at doing basic arithmetic or physics than the morons who are in charge of climate policy here in New York. And in China, nobody dares to speak up and contradict Xi, no matter how obviously wrong he may be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I said, the U.S. is blessed by the total incompetence of its geo-political adversaries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The article takes note of the fact that nobody in China is pushing back against the wind power expansion, despite obvious downsides:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The push has faced little public resistance because of strong government backing. Even though local residents complain, they have little power to stop projects from moving forward. \u201cThe noise from these turbines is quite loud,\u201d said Wang Cuifen, who lives on a small farm outside Yancheng, near the base of towering turbines in a tidal zone. \u201cThey run nonstop from around 4 p.m. to 4 a.m., and it affects our rest.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s nothing like a government that has no need to respond to complaints from the population. In the view of the New York Times, this is a good thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, dear readers, you can place your bets on whether it is the U.S. or China that is making the right bet on the future of wind energy. My bet is that within about a decade, China will be taking multi hundreds of billions of dollars, if not trillions of dollars, of write-offs on its wind energy investments. Or, given that this is China and no loss of face for the leaders is ever allowed, it will be propping the industry up with ever increasing subsidies as its economy gets eaten away from within.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The US (slowing\/stalling many projects) is making the smarter bet long-term; China&#8217;s massive overbuild is likely a costly mistake driven by central planning, not economics. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":443463,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818341,691824636,691822976,691842921,691842920,691818299,691831504,691824278,691820304,691820740],"class_list":["post-443461","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-china","tag-chinese-president-xi-jinping","tag-hidden-costs","tag-interference-of-wind-turbines","tag-low-capacity-factors","tag-subsidies","tag-trump-administration","tag-uneconomic","tag-united-states","tag-wind-energy","fallback-thumbnail"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/0-Two-Bets-On-The-Future-Of-Wind-Energy-Who-Is-Right.jpg?fit=1168%2C784&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1RmB","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":405940,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=405940","url_meta":{"origin":443461,"position":0},"title":"Place Your Bet On The Future Of Energy: U.S. Or China","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"09\/30\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"The first eight months of the second Trump administration have seen a sea change in energy policy. 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