{"id":401738,"date":"2025-09-12T15:30:38","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T13:30:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=401738"},"modified":"2025-09-12T15:30:40","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T13:30:40","slug":"doe-climate-working-group-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=401738","title":{"rendered":"DOE Climate Working Group RIP"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"401742\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401742\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/0AQNx692774TpzbsRFv1P-wwJvHYBQ70ZHtl25j_cQx_GENR0U-3dqBEBvZ0j10Bl_BpwvuFyDwFWpOTAAy_MybD4Wu77eHIETRGF06zwE-89tP5f_qTly3YBa189ASWOs1GPDmhGbjbGSMEHiVM8ryaBETEREg.jpeg?fit=1280%2C1280&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" 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https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/0AQNx692774TpzbsRFv1P-wwJvHYBQ70ZHtl25j_cQx_GENR0U-3dqBEBvZ0j10Bl_BpwvuFyDwFWpOTAAy_MybD4Wu77eHIETRGF06zwE-89tP5f_qTly3YBa189ASWOs1GPDmhGbjbGSMEHiVM8ryaBETEREg.jpeg?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/0AQNx692774TpzbsRFv1P-wwJvHYBQ70ZHtl25j_cQx_GENR0U-3dqBEBvZ0j10Bl_BpwvuFyDwFWpOTAAy_MybD4Wu77eHIETRGF06zwE-89tP5f_qTly3YBa189ASWOs1GPDmhGbjbGSMEHiVM8ryaBETEREg.jpeg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We rarely break news here at THB, but we are today. The Department of Energy\u2019s Climate Working Group (CWG) was disbanded on September 3 and its work under DOE will not continue in any manner. Presumably its work product(s) and submitted public comments will all be withdrawn. This will be formally announced shortly. <strong><em> <a href=\"https:\/\/rogerpielkejr.substack.com\/p\/doe-climate-working-group-rip\">The Honest Brocker- Roger Pielke Jr.<\/a> has the story.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I first read the lawsuit, I expected that it would be dismissed \u2014 Surely, I thought, DOE had taken steps to ensure that the five members of the CWG were either employed by DOE or otherwise detailed to the agency, such that they would not fall under the provisions of FACA.1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apparently, one of the members of the CWG did not file the paperwork necessary to be considered internal to DOE, thus legitimizing the UCS\/EDF lawsuit. Given this, on the merits, UCS\/EDF were correct and would likely have prevailed. With the stakes so high, DOE was sloppy in not ensuring that the CWG was procedurally air tight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The disbanding of the CWG says nothing about the substance of the CWG report \u2014 which, as THB readers know, made several important critiques relying heavily on my work and that of colleagues \u2014 notably related to scenarios, When I first read the lawsuit, I expected that it would be dismissed \u2014 Surely, I thought, DOE had taken steps to ensure that the five members of the CWG were either employed by DOE or otherwise detailed to the agency, such that they would not fall under the provisions of FACA.1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apparently, one of the members of the CWG did not file the paperwork necessary to be considered internal to DOE, thus legitimizing the UCS\/EDF lawsuit. Given this, on the merits, UCS\/EDF were correct and would likely have prevailed. With the stakes so high, DOE was sloppy in not ensuring that the CWG was procedurally air tight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The disbanding of the CWG says nothing about the substance of the CWG report \u2014 which, as THB readers know, made several important critiques relying heavily on my work and that of colleagues \u2014 notably related to scenarios, extreme weather, \u201cbillion-dollar disasters,\u201d and extreme event attribution. Of course, in areas outside my expertise the report has seen other critiques that I have not discussed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The most important accomplishment of the short-lived working group was to reveal the censorious and politicized response of many in the media and climate science community to the very idea that other accomplished and credentialed experts might have views that deviate in small or large degree from an acceptable orthodoxy \u2014 all in the context of climate politics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Responses to the CWG were often expressed with expletives, in personal terms, and focused on the alleged political and financial motivations of the members of the CWG.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The responses of climate scientists to the CWG report also included multiple false claims \u2014 such as in defenses of RCP8.5, sowing confusion about time of emergence and detection\/attribution, on the integrity of \u201cbillion-dollar disasters,\u201d contradicting IPCC on extreme weather and more. None of the critiques chose to take on any of our research cited in the CWG report. It\u2019s as if they dismissed more contentious claims of CWG in order to avoid having to take on those that were obviously correct., \u201cbillion-dollar disasters,\u201d and extreme event attribution. Of course, in areas outside my expertise the report has seen other critiques that I have not discussed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The most important accomplishment of the short-lived working group was to reveal the censorious and politicized response of many in the media and climate science community to the very idea that other accomplished and credentialed experts might have views that deviate in small or large degree from an acceptable orthodoxy \u2014 all in the context of climate politics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Responses to the CWG were often expressed with expletives, in personal terms, and focused on the alleged political and financial motivations of the members of the CWG.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The responses of climate scientists to the CWG report also included multiple false claims \u2014 such as in defenses of RCP8.5, sowing confusion about time of emergence and detection\/attribution, on the integrity of \u201cbillion-dollar disasters,\u201d contradicting IPCC on extreme weather and more. 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