{"id":401655,"date":"2025-09-12T08:48:10","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T06:48:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=401655"},"modified":"2025-09-12T08:48:13","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T06:48:13","slug":"doe-climate-report-a-box-of-surprises-for-the-unversed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=401655","title":{"rendered":"DOE Climate Report a Box of Surprises for the\u00a0Unversed"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"401704\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401704\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/AQMcBbvsz0SvdwTDyTCAwH2qmYxSqh01bC1Nbc8Dusv9Hz5913cvZHZSoMb-ehyDEhj8ylRuLsB-tC2Gz4RG6XzvUVgeTJQe-MnRSHtB3ZKj5rWbeO-eI4d_3l_8eYKud22zvTaBDjmgOwc0mwd2p_fVKdaGtA-2.jpeg?fit=1280%2C1280&amp;ssl=1\" 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href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2025\/09\/10\/doe-climate-report-a-box-of-surprises-for-the-unversed\/\">Science Matters<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/author\/ronaldrc\/\">Ron Clutz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/r--BO8VXgnU?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Kim Strassel interview at WSJ is&nbsp;<strong>Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Resetting the Climate Debate.&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;Below in italics is a transcript from the closed captions with my bolds and added images.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<strong>Department of Energy\u2019s new climate report<\/strong>&nbsp;is making waves, offering a&nbsp;<strong>fresh look at the alarmist claims pushed by special-interest groups and prior administrations.<\/strong>&nbsp;The report\u2019s five scientists lay out data showing that&nbsp;<strong>while climate change is real, it isn\u2019t the threat suggested by media or the climate lobby.<\/strong>&nbsp;On this episode of All Things, Energy Secretary<strong>&nbsp;Chris Wright takes Kim Strassel through the findings, including the upsides of warming,<\/strong>&nbsp;the minimal economic effects of climate change, the&nbsp;<strong>limits of U.S. policy actions and<\/strong>&nbsp;the&nbsp;<strong>lack of evidence that climate is related to the frequency or intensity of extreme weather.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"287\" height=\"346\" data-attachment-id=\"401659\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401659\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-192.png?fit=287%2C346&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"287,346\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-192.png?fit=287%2C346&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-192.png?resize=287%2C346&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A cartoon depicting a judge at a bench, a lawyer making a statement, and a colorful surprise box marked with stars and shapes, symbolizing an unexpected witness.\" class=\"wp-image-401659\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-192.png?w=287&amp;ssl=1 287w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-192.png?resize=249%2C300&amp;ssl=1 249w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 287px) 100vw, 287px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>KS:&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;Tell us why you commissioned that report.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>CW:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>The climate chain is a real physical phenomenon. It\u2019s scientifically fascinating. I<\/strong>t is a truly global issue. But you know there\u2019s certain facts and data about it. There\u2019re certain implications about it. And most everything I hear in the media, in the news from politicians, from protesters when I speak at universities,\u00a0<strong>they\u2019re just so unaware of the basics of what is climate change.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"720\" height=\"488\" data-attachment-id=\"401662\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401662\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-194.png?fit=720%2C488&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,488\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-194.png?fit=720%2C488&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-194.png?resize=720%2C488&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A group of activists holding a protest sign that says 'ACT NOW AGAINST CLIMATE POLLUTERS!' during a climate change rally.\" class=\"wp-image-401662\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-194.png?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-194.png?resize=300%2C203&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And and to give one example there, you hear these\u00a0<strong>kids<\/strong>, I\u2019m choking, I\u2019m coughing on\u00a0<strong>so much carbon pollution,<\/strong>\u00a0you know. And look, the Clean Air Act was about<strong>\u00a0real pollutants that do make you cough, that are toxic,<\/strong>\u00a0that do have, you know, acute human impacts in local concentrations. As for carbon dioxide, I say it\u2019s like oxygen and water, H2O,\u00a0<strong>CO2 is one of the three most critical molecules for life on Earth.<\/strong>\u00a0It is the essential life-giving plant food that makes our life possible.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"306\" data-attachment-id=\"401663\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401663\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?fit=1490%2C632&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1490,632\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?fit=723%2C306&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?resize=723%2C306&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A portrait of Dr. William Happer with a quote about CO2 benefits, emphasizing it is not a pollutant.\" class=\"wp-image-401663\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?resize=1024%2C434&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?resize=300%2C127&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?resize=768%2C326&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?resize=1200%2C509&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-195.png?w=1490&amp;ssl=1 1490w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>So it does absorb infrared radiation.<\/strong>\u00a0So we can have a real dialogue about too much of it or too little of it. which is actually I think a bigger risk. But you know\u00a0<strong>calling it a pollutant is just nuts.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"630\" height=\"440\" data-attachment-id=\"401665\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401665\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-197.png?fit=630%2C440&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"630,440\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-197.png?fit=630%2C440&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-197.png?resize=630%2C440&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A cartoon depicting a wedding ceremony where the officiant asks the couple if they believe in climate change, eliciting humorous reactions from the guests.\" class=\"wp-image-401665\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-197.png?w=630&amp;ssl=1 630w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-197.png?resize=300%2C210&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>KS:<\/strong>\u00a0So let\u2019s go through\u00a0<strong>some of the big takeaways<\/strong>\u00a0of it because I think people would be\u00a0<strong>amazed that it\u2019s not what they hear in the media every day.<\/strong>\u00a0One important thing that I think is is notable and I\u2019ll just say it at the the top is that you know that no one in this entire report is denying that the climate is changing.\u00a0<strong>We all agree that it\u2019s changing. It\u2019s always changing in some way.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"337\" data-attachment-id=\"401667\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401667\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?fit=3456%2C1609&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3456,1609\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?fit=723%2C337&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=723%2C337&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Infographic comparing world crop yields from 1961 to 2023 and world famine deaths due to protein-energy malnutrition by age. The chart illustrates rising crop yields for various crops, including bananas and potatoes, alongside declining famine-related deaths in different age groups.\" class=\"wp-image-401667\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=1024%2C477&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=300%2C140&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=768%2C358&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=1536%2C715&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=2048%2C953&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?resize=1200%2C559&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-198.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>One thing that might\u00a0<strong>surprise<\/strong>\u00a0people was that\u00a0<strong>some aspects of a changing climate can actually be good.<\/strong>\u00a0Because you only ever hear about the apocalyptic points. But the report goes into some detail about how this can be better for agricultural production. It also talks about throughout history,\u00a0<strong>cold has been a much greater threat to human health than heat.<\/strong>\u00a0More people die from cold every year.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"222\" data-attachment-id=\"401668\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401668\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?fit=940%2C288&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"940,288\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?fit=723%2C222&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?resize=723%2C222&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bar graph showing the attributable fraction of extreme cold, moderate cold, moderate heat, and extreme heat events across various countries including Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, UK, and the USA.\" class=\"wp-image-401668\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?w=940&amp;ssl=1 940w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?resize=300%2C92&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-199.png?resize=768%2C235&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>A 2015 study by 22 scientists from around the world found that cold kills over 17 times more people than heat. Thus the planet\u2019s recent modest warming has been saving millions of lives.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It might also\u00a0<strong>surprise<\/strong>\u00a0people that we\u00a0<strong>still don\u2019t know the extent to which humans really affect the climate.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>I would like you to talk about that because that\u2019s going to be really confusing to some folks out there because\u00a0<strong>all they hear is, the consensus is that humans are causing massive damaging climate problems<\/strong>. That\u2019s what you constantly get from the media refrain on this. How do you put those through things? How do you explain that to folks who might be surprised with what this report says compared to what they have heard non-stop for more than a decade now?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"675\" height=\"900\" data-attachment-id=\"401671\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401671\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?fit=675%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"675,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?fit=675%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=675%2C900&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Magazine cover featuring U.N. Secretary-General Ant\u00f3nio Guterres standing in water, highlighting climate change issues with the title 'OUR SINKING PLANET'.\" class=\"wp-image-401671\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?w=675&amp;ssl=1 675w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=600%2C800&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=450%2C600&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=300%2C400&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-201.png?resize=150%2C200&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 675px) 100vw, 675px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>CW: Of course everyone says that,<\/strong>\u00a0Republican politicians, Democratic politicians, the media everywhere because that\u2019s what they hear. But it shows\u00a0<strong>they don\u2019t actually read,<\/strong>\u00a0and of course, why would people read\u00a0<strong>these giant bureaucratic clunky reports<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>from<\/strong>\u00a0intergovernmental panel on climate change, the\u00a0<strong>IPCC<\/strong>\u00a0that you hear about? The\u00a0<strong>problem<\/strong>\u00a0with the IPCC is actually the<strong>\u00a0layers of reporting.<\/strong>\u00a0There\u2019s the report that\u2019s by the\u00a0<strong>scientists<\/strong>, and then there\u2019s the release or the\u00a0<strong>summary for policy makers<\/strong>\u00a0as they call it in the IPCC world that\u2019s written by\u00a0<strong>politicians<\/strong>\u00a0and it is striking there are things in the summary for policy makers just\u00a0<strong>directly contradictory to the science actually in the reports themselves.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"408\" data-attachment-id=\"401672\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401672\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?fit=1276%2C720&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1276,720\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?fit=723%2C408&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?resize=723%2C408&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A man in a suit delivering a serious message about climate change with a background showing environmental issues, including construction and water pollution, along with the text 'ERA OF GLOBAL BOILING HAS ARRIVED'.\" class=\"wp-image-401672\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?resize=1024%2C578&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?resize=768%2C433&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?resize=1200%2C677&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-202.png?w=1276&amp;ssl=1 1276w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And the biggest thing there that&nbsp;<strong>everybody hears<\/strong>&nbsp;is that&nbsp;<strong>weather, extreme storms are getting stronger and more frequent and the damage of this is taking an increasing toll<\/strong>&nbsp;on society and hence we\u2019re in a climate emergency.<strong>&nbsp;None of that is true<\/strong>&nbsp;and none of that is clear in the intergovernmental panel on climate change reports. These are the reports written by people that have dedicated their life to climate change.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>If you thought ah you know it\u2019s a real thing but it\u2019s not that big of a deal, you\u2019re not going to spend your whole life as an&nbsp;<strong>author of an IPCC report.<\/strong>&nbsp;It\u2019s sort of<strong>&nbsp;self- selecting<\/strong>&nbsp;for the people most interested in climate change. They\u2019re honest scientists, for the large majority of them, but they\u2019re the most interested in this thing. Maybe they think it\u2019s the most important thing, the most exciting to them.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"436\" data-attachment-id=\"401674\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401674\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?fit=1079%2C651&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1079,651\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?fit=723%2C436&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?resize=723%2C436&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A bar graph showing the annual count of strong to violent tornadoes (F3+) in the U.S. from 1970 to 2020, with a downward trend line.\" class=\"wp-image-401674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?resize=1024%2C618&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?resize=300%2C181&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?resize=768%2C463&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-203.png?w=1079&amp;ssl=1 1079w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In these IPCC reports, there\u2019s the collection of data on extreme weather:<strong>\u00a0hurricanes, no increase<\/strong>\u00a0in the frequency or intensity of hurricanes.<strong>\u00a0floods, droughts, no increase<\/strong>\u00a0in the frequency or intensity of them. The only the\u00a0<strong>only meaningful extreme weather event that shows a trend<\/strong>\u00a0and it\u2019s not a huge trend is\u00a0<strong>tornadoes and it\u2019s downward<\/strong>. There\u2019s like 50% less extreme high energy tornadoes today than 50 years ago. We don\u2019t know why but you know that one\u2019s sort of a favorable trend.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"556\" data-attachment-id=\"401675\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401675\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?fit=1307%2C1006&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1307,1006\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?fit=723%2C556&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?resize=723%2C556&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A line graph depicting climate-related deaths from 1920 to 2021, showing a significant decline in deaths over the decades, attributed to wealthier and more resilient societies. Data points include statistics for various natural disasters in 2021.\" class=\"wp-image-401675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?resize=1024%2C788&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?resize=300%2C231&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?resize=768%2C591&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?resize=1200%2C924&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-204.png?w=1307&amp;ssl=1 1307w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Most all of them have variations from year to year. Some of them have decadal oscillations. So they they go through phases of stronger and weaker but none of them show a scary upward trend. And my punch line, if you look at the deaths from extreme weather, they\u2019ve just declined like a stone throughout the last hundred years, including in the last 20 or 30 years. So&nbsp;<strong>your risk of dying from extreme weather is the lowest we\u2019ve ever had data on.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>But&nbsp;<strong>yet 20% of kids report nightmares<\/strong>&nbsp;about fears of climate change. Like, how do those go together? And that\u2019s despite the fact that we have much greater populations in a lot of these areas that are hit.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"626\" height=\"437\" data-attachment-id=\"401677\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401677\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-206.png?fit=626%2C437&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"626,437\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-206.png?fit=626%2C437&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-206.png?resize=626%2C437&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A satirical cartoon depicting two characters on a bridge discussing exaggerated claims about climate change and its impact on the future of Earth. One character questions the credibility of the claim that Earth will be uninhabitable in a set number of years while the other expresses confusion about the situation.\" class=\"wp-image-401677\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-206.png?w=626&amp;ssl=1 626w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-206.png?resize=300%2C209&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 626px) 100vw, 626px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And that\u2019s all useful information out there as well about&nbsp;<strong>not conflating the economic damage of a of a storm<\/strong>&nbsp;with meaning that it\u2019s actually a bigger or worse storm. It just might mean that there were more things in its path to actually get wrecked. And people conflate those things too often with really sloppy consequences for the science.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>KS:<\/strong>&nbsp;In the broader debate, if you look at many areas of science, for example we\u2019ve been studying physics for millennia. There\u2019s a been a lot of work done and a lot of people coming up with theories and then them getting knocked down. And we crawl our way forward but we have gained a pretty good understanding of many things in nature. Still&nbsp;<strong>climate science is new in the grand scheme of things<\/strong>, kind of in its infancy and we\u2019re still learning a lot. Is that an accurate statement?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>CW:<\/strong>\u00a0Oh yeah. Look, it\u2019s\u00a0<strong>an incredibly complicated system<\/strong>. This is a<strong>\u00a0tightly coupled, chaotic system.<\/strong>\u00a0And you know, best\u00a0<strong>exemplified by weather forecasts.<\/strong>\u00a0We get better at weather forecasts now. 50 years ago, maybe you could have a reasonable projection out four or five days. Today, it\u2019s closer to two weeks. There are people in the AI world telling me we can do a reasonable projection all the way out to a month today. I\u2019ve never seen that, but that is a claim of massive, advanced computing going out a month. That\u2019s just how complicated these phenomena are.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"720\" height=\"597\" data-attachment-id=\"401680\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401680\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-208.png?fit=720%2C597&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,597\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-208.png?fit=720%2C597&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-208.png?resize=720%2C597&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A cartoon depicting climate scientists gathered around a large machine labeled 'Climate Earth 1.0', with dials and knobs. One scientist exclaims, 'I found one that does oceans!' The machine focuses on 'Water Vapour' and highlights the influence of oceans on global temperatures.\" class=\"wp-image-401680\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-208.png?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-208.png?resize=300%2C249&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>So when you come back and report that with<strong>&nbsp;this little knob CO2 concentration,<\/strong>&nbsp;you\u2019re going to&nbsp;<strong>dial in to a tenth of a degree the temperature at the end of the century.<\/strong>&nbsp;That should be greeted with a lot of skepticism. There\u2019s some reality. It is a warming fact. There\u2019s a bias. There\u2019s an upward average trend. But yeah, this you know attributing this storm, this much damage came from climate change.These are stretching science beyond science and going into science fiction.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>There are more items from this report that I think might&nbsp;<strong>surprise<\/strong>&nbsp;people. It is very important to broaden this out to a couple other findings that would surprise people One point is that&nbsp;<strong>there\u2019s not been so far and they\u2019re not projected to be a lot of negative economic effects from this<\/strong>. And moreover the&nbsp;<strong>US\u2019s ability to change global climate is extremely limited.<\/strong>&nbsp;Even if we were to take some very drastic policy measures it would generally have a negligible effect on global climate trends.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And that\u2019s another part of the IPCC reports that not only is never read, but it\u2019s never even talked about. In the past, I put out the summary of what are the&nbsp;<strong>economic conclusions of the IPCC authors.<\/strong>&nbsp;They survey all the economic literature on climate change. And yet our current warming trends, the projections are that maybe at the end of this century, we might lose a few tenths of a percent or maybe two, three or four percent per capita income, if we do nothing about climate change by the end of this century.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"614\" height=\"679\" data-attachment-id=\"401683\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401683\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-210.png?fit=614%2C679&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"614,679\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-210.png?fit=614%2C679&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-210.png?resize=614%2C679&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Graph illustrating the projected global surface temperature changes as influenced by the Inflation Reduction Act, comparing baseline and estimated impacts up to the year 2100.\" class=\"wp-image-401683\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-210.png?w=614&amp;ssl=1 614w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-210.png?resize=271%2C300&amp;ssl=1 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>But in that same model<strong>&nbsp;with economic growth projected<\/strong>&nbsp;ahead, we\u2019re about 400% richer than we are today. So, our&nbsp;<strong>great great grandchildren might be 400% richer than us<\/strong>&nbsp;or in the&nbsp;<strong>worst case<\/strong>, if you take the outer bounds scenarios, well, they might&nbsp;<strong>only be 380 or 85% richer than us<\/strong>. I don\u2019t think that qualifies as a climate catastrophe or this disaster meme around something projected to be relatively modest. And even in the words of the climate economists, they\u2019ll say, \u201cLook,&nbsp;<strong>climate impacts are nowhere near as important as education policy or trade impacts or efficiencies and other things.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;So people studying these things closely, I think, are quite sober and reasonable about them.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The problem is\u00a0<strong>you never hear from them.<\/strong>\u00a0Only the most extreme ones that made the dramatic, you know, that, you know, the Statue of Liberty is going to be underwater, you know,\u00a0<strong>the people that make the crazy claims, they\u2019re the newsworthy ones.<\/strong>\u00a0So, they\u2019re the ones that are put on TV all the time, but they\u2019re not representative at all of the consensus.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"546\" height=\"379\" data-attachment-id=\"401685\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401685\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-212.png?fit=546%2C379&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"546,379\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-212.png?fit=546%2C379&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-212.png?resize=546%2C379&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Graph showing post-glacial sea level rise with annotations indicating 'Natural' and 'Man Made' influences, and various geographic locations marked along the timeline.\" class=\"wp-image-401685\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-212.png?w=546&amp;ssl=1 546w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-212.png?resize=300%2C208&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 546px) 100vw, 546px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Now consensus does not mean correct, but just the center point of people looking at this. Yeah. That you know their&nbsp;<strong>centrist view of climate change is a very slow moving but significant process.<\/strong>&nbsp;Nothing about alarmism, nothing about disaster. You know all the&nbsp;<strong>crazy stuff you hear is out of line with mainstream climate science and mainstream climate economics,<\/strong>&nbsp;but not the five authors of this report. They\u2019re just&nbsp;<strong>making accessible<\/strong>&nbsp;to the broader public or at least the moderately scientifically inclined public to get in tune with&nbsp;<strong>what we think we know about climate change to date<\/strong>. They don\u2019t talk a lot about projections because no one knows the future, but I think we\u2019ve got a hundred years of pretty good data. That\u2019s a good place to start when you\u2019re trying to think how might things be in another 10 or 50 or 100 years.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>KS:<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. And that\u2019s what I loved about this report. If you go through it, every single statement in there is just common sense and you can\u2019t really disagree with it if you\u2019re looking at the numbers and the data. They really summed up the state of climate science at the moment.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Why I like this report and the way you framed it in your introduction at the beginning is that we as a country and as a member of this globe,&nbsp;<strong>we\u2019re always facing myriad problems<\/strong>. And&nbsp;<strong>if you don\u2019t have the whole picture, it\u2019s impossible to prioritize<\/strong>&nbsp;which of those to focus on because by the way, we do have limited focus and limited resources to sort of manage some of these to a certain degree.&nbsp; In your introduction you put that perhaps the<strong>&nbsp;world\u2019s greatest problem at the moment is actually energy poverty.<\/strong>&nbsp;And to fix that, to truly lift people up,<strong>&nbsp;we need reliable, affordable energy.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"642\" height=\"652\" data-attachment-id=\"401688\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401688\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?fit=642%2C652&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"642,652\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?fit=642%2C652&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?resize=642%2C652&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A humorous infographic titled 'Climate Change: A Timeline of Failed Predictions' showcasing various exaggerated climate predictions from the 1960s to 2010s, highlighting inaccuracies with events like 'Dire famine by 75' and 'World will end in 12 years'.\" class=\"wp-image-401688\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?w=642&amp;ssl=1 642w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?resize=295%2C300&amp;ssl=1 295w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-214.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>CW:<\/strong>\u00a0And that\u2019s just\u00a0<strong>common sense<\/strong>. And in fact, I would say that\u2019s why President Trump got elected. People were eventually tiring of these kind of\u00a0<strong>alarmist claims<\/strong>\u00a0that didn\u2019t seem to make much sense. You know, every every 10 years the world\u2019s going to end 10 years from now. And and honestly, unless you\u2019re watching the news,\u00a0<strong>no one would notice climate change if it was not in the news.<\/strong>\u00a0If I were to change the temperature in the room you\u2019re sitting right now by a couple degrees Fahrenheit over 20 minutes, you wouldn\u2019t even notice it unless you\u2019re very sensitive. I\u2019m not. But that two degrees Fahrenheit, that\u2019s the warming the planet has observed over a century, you know. But if I did it in 10 minutes or 15 minutes, you wouldn\u2019t notice it.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"502\" data-attachment-id=\"401690\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401690\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?fit=888%2C616&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"888,616\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?fit=723%2C502&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?resize=723%2C502&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Graph showing seasonal temperature anomalies at individual weather stations and the global average temperature anomalies from 1900 to 2020, with highs and lows represented by black circles and yellow squares.\" class=\"wp-image-401690\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?w=888&amp;ssl=1 888w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?resize=300%2C208&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-216.png?resize=768%2C533&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>So, President Trump got elected because, you know,\u00a0<strong>15%, 20% of Americans are struggling<\/strong>\u00a0to pay their monthly electricity bill. They\u2019re struggling to pay for gasoline to get to work. They\u2019re struggling to start a new business because\u00a0<strong>energy costs and energy connections are more expensive.<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s a problem in the here and now.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"318\" data-attachment-id=\"401692\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401692\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?fit=1187%2C523&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1187,523\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?fit=723%2C318&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?resize=723%2C318&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"An infographic illustrating the various sectors benefiting from oil and gas, including vehicles, fuels, construction, household items, electronics, and agriculture, depicted through a network of pipelines connecting them.\" class=\"wp-image-401692\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?resize=1024%2C451&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?resize=300%2C132&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?resize=768%2C338&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-217.png?w=1187&amp;ssl=1 1187w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And that\u2019s not an unrelated problem.&nbsp;<strong>We\u2019ve driven up the cost of energy in the United States and Europe has done it dramatically all in the name of combating climate change.<\/strong>&nbsp;You know, we\u2019re barely tweaking global emissions of greenhouse gases that might lead the planet to be a hundredth of a degree cooler in the year 2100. That\u2019s the potential output if we implement these policies, but yet the short-term impacts are just crushing people\u2019s opportunities and the ability to pay their bills. That\u2019s getting way way off track.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>That\u2019s why the American public elected President Trump and maybe why President Trump tapped me. What<strong>&nbsp;I want to<\/strong>&nbsp;do is engage the public in this discussion: what do we know about climate change? What do we know about energy systems and how they could change and what kind of trade offs do we want to make? And the more people get exposed to the facts, the more I think people become realistic.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BJWq1FeGpCw?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>You talked about affordability problems in the United States. Let me just give one other punchline, World Health Organization data. Around<strong>&nbsp;two to three million people die every year from indoor air pollution.<\/strong>&nbsp;And that\u2019s because two billion people, a quarter of humanity, cook their daily meals and heat their homes burning wood or dung or agricultural waste indoors. That smoke is just a deadly toxic pollutant that kills millions and crushes the freedom of women and children who gather the wood and spend hours a day over these smoky fires.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>That\u2019s an energy crisis we know how to solve<\/strong>. It\u2019s affordable. It\u2019s reliable and massively transformative of lives. But yet we never hear about that. That\u2019s clearly&nbsp;<strong>a bigger priority than shaving a few hundreds of a degree off global temperatures three or four generations from now.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>KS:<\/strong>&nbsp;Last question here, I do just want to ask a political question. Those of us who believe in free markets, who want opportunity, abundance, you know, the ability for people to succeed and have more, have understood a long time ago that&nbsp;<strong>if the activist climate agenda were imposed from above and government, that\u2019s just an end to most of those free market ambitions.<\/strong>&nbsp;Because in order to to follow the agenda they want, which is total control over what you drive and what you eat and what kind of job you have and what kind of house you live in. You squash that freedom.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And I think a lot of free marketers have nonetheless struggled to know how to engage in these climate wars. For a while they said, \u201cWell, the climate\u2019s not changing.\u201d And then for a while it was like, \u201cIt\u2019ll just cost too much.\u201d And then for a while it was, \u201cWell, we\u2019ll just have to do everything all of the above.\u201d You seem to be saying, actually, you want to talk about the science,<strong>\u00a0let\u2019s talk about the science<\/strong>. And what<strong>\u00a0it actually shows<\/strong>\u00a0is that\u00a0<strong>we don\u2019t need to go down that road<\/strong>\u00a0of stripping everything away to control everything given the actual level of what we\u2019re dealing with here. Is that right?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"558\" data-attachment-id=\"401694\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401694\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?fit=3300%2C2550&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3300,2550\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?fit=723%2C558&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=723%2C558&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Graph showing CO2 emissions, life expectancy, GDP per person, and population over time, with significant increases noted around the year 2000.\" class=\"wp-image-401694\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=1024%2C791&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=300%2C232&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=768%2C593&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=1536%2C1187&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=2048%2C1583&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?resize=1200%2C927&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-218.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>CW:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right, Kim. Yeah. And I say\u00a0<strong>two things created the modern world<\/strong>. doubled our life expectancy, you know, created planes, trains, and automobiles and modern medicine.\u00a0<strong>The growth of human freedom,<\/strong>\u00a0bottom-up social organization or human liberty,\u00a0<strong>and the explosion in affordable energy<\/strong>\u00a0from the arrival of hydrocarbons. First coal, then oil, then wood, and now the derivative energy sources of hydrocarbons like\u00a0<strong>nuclear, hydro, wind, and solar. You can\u2019t have any of those without abundant hydrocarbons.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"511\" data-attachment-id=\"401695\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401695\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?fit=1754%2C1240&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1754,1240\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?fit=723%2C511&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=723%2C511&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Infographic showing the total energy supply by source, highlighting percentages for oil, natural gas, coal, biofuels, nuclear, wind, solar, and hydro.\" class=\"wp-image-401695\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=1024%2C724&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=300%2C212&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=768%2C543&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=1536%2C1086&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?resize=1200%2C848&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?w=1754&amp;ssl=1 1754w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-219.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>And this climate movement opposes both of them.<\/strong>\u00a0They\u2019re\u00a0<strong>making energy more expensive<\/strong>. They\u2019re trying to get in the way of the main energy source. Hydrocarbons were 85% of global energy when I was born and they\u2019re 85% of global energy today. Turns out it\u2019s hard to change the energy system, but they\u2019re making them more expensive.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"212\" data-attachment-id=\"401697\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401697\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?fit=1364%2C400&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1364,400\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?fit=723%2C212&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?resize=723%2C212&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A diagram illustrating a series of proposed bans related to energy sources, including electricity central control, banning gas electric power, gas fertilizer products, LNG transport fuel, gas heating, and gas stoves, culminating in the concept of an 'Energy Consuming Public' represented by a house.\" class=\"wp-image-401697\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?resize=1024%2C300&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?resize=300%2C88&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?resize=768%2C225&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?resize=1200%2C352&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-220.png?w=1364&amp;ssl=1 1364w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>And to your point, they\u2019re going<strong>\u00a0back to top-down control.<\/strong>\u00a0The<strong>\u00a0government\u2019s going to decide what\u2019s virtuous<\/strong>, what car you can buy, how you can heat your home. We\u2019re going to force you to electrically heat your home, which is two to five times more expensive than burning natural gas. And when you heat your home electrically, guess what? The US\u2019s main source of electricity comes from natural gas.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"519\" height=\"394\" data-attachment-id=\"401699\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401699\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-222.png?fit=519%2C394&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"519,394\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-222.png?fit=519%2C394&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-222.png?resize=519%2C394&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"A cartoon depicting two primitive men sitting inside a cave, discussing the paradox of living in a clean environment with pure air, water, and healthy practices, yet no one lives past thirty.\" class=\"wp-image-401699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-222.png?w=519&amp;ssl=1 519w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-222.png?resize=300%2C228&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 519px) 100vw, 519px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>You\u2019re not even changing.<strong>&nbsp;You\u2019re not reducing gas consumption. You\u2019re just making it more expensive<\/strong>. But it\u2019s about political control. It\u2019s about<strong>&nbsp;reducing human freedom<\/strong>. So, let\u2019s do this. Let\u2019s shine light on all of this on the trade-offs we\u2019re making. And I think Americans will choose a much more reasonable, informed pathway for energy and climate policy going forward.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>I\u2019m hugely optimistic.<strong>&nbsp;Shining light<\/strong>&nbsp;on this, I think, is going<strong>&nbsp;to get us to a much better place.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"645\" height=\"763\" data-attachment-id=\"401702\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=401702\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/image-224.png?fit=645%2C763&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"645,763\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" 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