{"id":392437,"date":"2025-08-02T20:29:49","date_gmt":"2025-08-02T18:29:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=392437"},"modified":"2025-08-02T20:30:07","modified_gmt":"2025-08-02T18:30:07","slug":"the-ongoing-fiction-of-cheap-wind-and-solar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=392437","title":{"rendered":"The Ongoing Fiction of Cheap Wind and Solar"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"392439\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=392439\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQNHl9AKaUujnp_oKefu2SSDZXqj5kkKnpsg2QUx1mG9gJiWTdguYjXMjVIa4vDgyWpjb0eadWQTVMvjaIrrOSiDo6A8U0tP3foiGqRpDmQ-EIlH29q2AYMajvpHZF9wJy_ZLSIM_tJ0TKAcwD65T_m0BEvRig-1.jpeg?fit=1280%2C1280&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,1280\" 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href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2025\/08\/01\/the-ongoing-fiction-of-cheap-wind-and-solar\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By Vijay Jayaraj<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-video wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-videopress\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"VideoPress Video Player\" aria-label='VideoPress Video Player' width='723' height='723' src='https:\/\/videopress.com\/embed\/5Tppi8Mh?cover=1&amp;preloadContent=metadata&amp;useAverageColor=1&amp;hd=0' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen data-resize-to-parent=\"true\" allow='clipboard-write'><\/iframe><script src='https:\/\/v0.wordpress.com\/js\/next\/videopress-iframe.js?m=1739540970'><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Those claiming that wind and solar energy are cheaper than fossil fuels should be writing scripts for science fiction dramas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yet global organizations such as investment firm&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lazard.com\/about-lazard\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lazard<\/a>&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.irena.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">International Renewable Energy Agency<\/a>&nbsp;expect this bogus claim to be taken seriously as a basis for investing many billions into essentially useless technologies to save the planet from a made-up climate crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The metric used to perpetuate the wind and solar fantasy is the levelized cost of electricity (LCOE), a deeply flawed tool that masks the real costs of these energy sources whose ability to perform is subject to the weather and time of day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Designed to deceive, LCOE creates a mirage that has seduced many a foolhardy policymaker. LCOE takes the total lifetime cost of building and operating a power plant and divides it by the amount of electricity it will generate. This gives a cost per megawatt-hour that can be compared across technologies. But there\u2019s a catch \u2013 actually, several.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By ignoring critical factors like reliability, infrastructure and subsidies, LCOE paints a deceptively rosy picture, leaving consumers footing a far higher bill than advertised.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LCOE treats all electricity as equal. A kilowatt-hour produced at 2 a.m. is valued the same as one at 9 a.m., even though demand and value are vastly different at these times. In real life, electricity at peak demand is far more valuable than off-peak power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Traditional power plants, like gas and coal, can ramp up to supply electricity when it\u2019s needed most. Wind and solar lack this fundamental capability. Their output is a gamble on the availability of sunlight and wind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wind and solar need backup sources of electricity such as natural gas-fired plants that run in standby mode or massive battery banks that store excess energy for later use. LCOE pretends this very significant cost does not exist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The more renewables added to the grid, the worse this problem becomes. That\u2019s why Germany, despite spending hundreds of billions on wind and solar, still relies on coal and imported power. LCOE estimates never warned of the grid instability, power curtailments and price spikes that followed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Both offshore and onshore wind installations are typically in remote locations far from population centers needing the power. The high-voltage transmission systems and underwater cables required to move the electricity are additional costs not recognized by LCOE.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because the electricity produced by wind and solar is distinctly different than what comes from spinning turbine-generators, additional equipment is needed to maintain operational balance in the power grid. These billion-dollar upgrades \u2013 you guessed it \u2013 are not counted by LCOE.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Experts now advocate the levelized full system cost of electricity (LFSCOE) as a truer measure of effectiveness in electricity production. This adds in the system-wide costs of transmission, storage, curtailment, and backup. The result? Wind and solar no longer look cheap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A 2022&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/abs\/pii\/S0360544222018035\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">study<\/a>&nbsp;in the journal&nbsp;<em>Energy<\/em>&nbsp;found that LFSCOE for power grids with a high percentage of wind and solar sources could be two to three times higher than LCOE estimates, especially in regions with variable weather. For example, while LCOE might peg solar at $40\/MWh in a sunny region, LFSCOE reveals a true cost closer to $120\/MWh once storage and grid costs are included.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But don\u2019t expect these metrics to be adopted by advocates of \u201cgreen\u201d energy anytime soon. LCOE\u2019s simplicity \u2013 despite its flaws \u2013 makes it useful for headlines and lobbying. Irony hit stratospheric levels when the same people claiming that \u201csolar and wind are cheaper than fossil fuels\u201d demanded hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies under the \u201cInflation Reduction Act\u201d for this&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/energynow.com\/2023\/07\/the-ultimate-debunking-of-solar-and-wind-are-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-alex-epstein\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">supposedly<\/a>&nbsp;\u201ccheap energy.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How can such \u201ccheap\u201d technology require this much public money? And if they\u2019ve been in the market for more than 30 years, are wind and solar still \u201cemerging\u201d technologies? Or are they now part of an entrenched system that benefits from political favoritism and economic distortion? The answers are obvious but ignored.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As energy analyst Alex Epstein testified in the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission should \u201crequire solar and wind generators to bear the full costs of the backup, storage, and transmission they need to provide reliable electricity. This will end the unfair practice of socializing the costs of intermittent generation across ratepayers or the grid.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LCOE is a flawed tool, one that might have worked when comparing steady-output power plants. But for intermittent renewables, it\u2019s a square peg in a round hole. It\u2019s time to retire this broken metric. More comprehensive cost assessments \u2013 like LFSCOE \u2013 must take its place. Until then, public debates will continue to be skewed, and consumers will keep paying for a lie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This commentary was first published by&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclearmarkets.com\/2025\/07\/29\/the_ongoing_fiction_of_cheap_wind_and_solar_energy_1125469.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Real Clear Markets&nbsp;<\/a><\/em>on July 29, 2025.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/co2coalition.org\/teammember\/vijay-jayaraj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vijay Jayaraj<\/a>&nbsp;is a Science and Research Associate at the&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/co2coalition.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>CO\u2082&nbsp;Coalition<\/em><\/a><em>, Fairfax, Virginia. He&nbsp;<\/em><em>holds an M.S. in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia and a postgraduate degree in energy management from Robert Gordon University, both in the U.K., and a bachelor\u2019s in engineering from Anna University, India.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Those claiming that wind and solar energy are cheaper than fossil fuels should be writing scripts for science fiction dramas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":392439,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advanced_seo_description":"Discover the truth behind wind and solar energy costs vs fossil fuels. 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