{"id":387412,"date":"2025-07-07T18:21:15","date_gmt":"2025-07-07T16:21:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=387412"},"modified":"2025-07-07T18:21:17","modified_gmt":"2025-07-07T16:21:17","slug":"climate-change-in-leftist-eyes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=387412","title":{"rendered":"\u201cClimate Change\u201d in Leftist\u00a0Eyes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"419\" data-attachment-id=\"387427\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387427\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=2520%2C1460&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2520,1460\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=723%2C419&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=723%2C419&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=1024%2C593&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=300%2C174&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=768%2C445&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=1536%2C890&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=2048%2C1187&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?resize=1200%2C695&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2025\/07\/06\/climate-change-in-leftist-eyes\/\">Science Matters<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/author\/ronaldrc\/\">Ron Clutz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"518\" data-attachment-id=\"387413\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387413\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?fit=1148%2C822&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1148,822\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?fit=723%2C518&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?resize=723%2C518&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?resize=1024%2C733&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?resize=300%2C215&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?resize=768%2C550&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-144.png?w=1148&amp;ssl=1 1148w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>The Climate Change threat depends on three assertions, and collapses if any of them fall.<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Linnea Lueken writes at American Thinker&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.americanthinker.com\/blog\/2025\/07\/climate_change_means_whatever_the_left_wants_it_to_mean.html\"><strong>\u201cClimate Change\u201d means whatever the Left wants it to mean.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In a recent&nbsp;<strong>interview with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Joe Rogan<\/strong>&nbsp;touched on the issue of climate change, a favorite talking point for Sanders.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Predictably, Sanders insisted that climate change is not a \u201choax.\u201d To this, Rogan raised some of the problems with the common media and political narratives surrounding claims of a climate crisis. The exchange reminded me, though, that<strong>&nbsp;despite how silly and absurd climate alarmists look<\/strong>&nbsp;to most of us, the way&nbsp;<strong>they have structured the climate debate<\/strong>&nbsp;is pretty&nbsp;<strong>smart<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"630\" height=\"430\" data-attachment-id=\"387416\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387416\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-146.png?fit=630%2C430&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"630,430\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-146.png?fit=630%2C430&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-146.png?resize=630%2C430&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387416\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-146.png?w=630&amp;ssl=1 630w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-146.png?resize=300%2C205&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>How&nbsp;<strong>frustrating<\/strong>&nbsp;is it when they say things like \u201cclimate change is real,\u201d or, as Sanders told Rogan, \u201cclimate change isn\u2019t a hoax,\u201d with such gravity?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Yes, climate change is real.<\/strong>&nbsp;This beautiful planet we are blessed to call home has&nbsp;<strong>multiple types of climate regions<\/strong>&nbsp;and they&nbsp;<strong>all constantly change<\/strong>&nbsp;in one way or another, both subtly and sometimes dramatically, over time.<strong>&nbsp;Stasis has never existed on Earth.<\/strong>&nbsp;Change is the natural order. An unchanging planet is a dead rock \u2014 deader than dead, because even other lifeless planets in our solar system experience seasons and long-term changes. Thus, climate&nbsp;change&nbsp;is not a hoax.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>But that\u2019s not what alarmists mean when they say, \u201cclimate change.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>When President Trump says climate change is a&nbsp;<strong>hoax<\/strong>, he is obviously&nbsp;<strong>not saying that natural climate change does not happen<\/strong>, he may not even be asserting that humans have no impact.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"370\" data-attachment-id=\"387418\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387418\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?fit=1287%2C659&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1287,659\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?fit=723%2C370&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?resize=723%2C370&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387418\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?resize=1024%2C524&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?resize=300%2C154&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?resize=768%2C393&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?resize=1200%2C614&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-147.png?w=1287&amp;ssl=1 1287w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Climate change,<\/strong>&nbsp;in the way activists, the media, politicians, and many scientists commonly use it, comes loaded with a<strong>&nbsp;presupposition that it is an&nbsp;unnatural&nbsp;change.<\/strong>&nbsp;Specifically, that most of the warming of the past century or so is anthropogenic \u2014 originating from human activities like farming and driving cars \u2014 and that such change is an existential threat. In short,&nbsp;<strong>one can accept the fact that climate change is a natural phenomenon and still be called a climate&nbsp;denier<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>if you don\u2019t agree<\/strong>&nbsp;with people like Sanders, who declare that<strong>&nbsp;windmills, solar panels, electric vehicles, and global socialism are the only proper responses to the changing climate.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>To those who value truth and precision, this is aggravating<br>because it is incomplete, vague, and for all intents and purposes, false.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>This is by design, and I think it is mostly&nbsp;<strong>tied to the utility of the \u201cdenier\u201d label.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"442\" data-attachment-id=\"387420\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387420\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-149.png?fit=600%2C442&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"600,442\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-149.png?fit=600%2C442&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-149.png?resize=600%2C442&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-149.png?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-149.png?resize=300%2C221&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It allows interested parties to dismiss people who don\u2019t take a very narrow view of the subject and&nbsp;<strong>ostracize&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.ph\/6z6rF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">scientists<\/a>&nbsp;who disagree even marginally from the dominant narrative<\/strong>. The truth of the matter is that the science is not settled.&nbsp;<strong>Every single element of the anthropogenic climate change theory is up for debate, with varying degrees of disagreement.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>It is also dangerous.<\/strong>&nbsp;For example,&nbsp;<strong>people in positions of power,<\/strong>&nbsp;like former U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI),<strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailysignal.com\/2016\/03\/10\/attorney-general-lynch-looking-into-prosecuting-climate-change-deniers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">have expressed interest<\/a>&nbsp;in prosecuting \u201cclimate deniers.\u201d<\/strong>&nbsp;They want to intimidate freethinkers who \u201cfollow the science,\u201d while&nbsp;<strong>ignoring the fact that we live in a constitutional republic, not a scientific dictatorship.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"634\" data-attachment-id=\"387422\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387422\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?fit=640%2C634&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,634\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?fit=640%2C634&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?resize=640%2C634&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?resize=300%2C297&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-150.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The facts and data don\u2019t dictate a particular course of action.&nbsp;<strong>How to respond to the information, if we even need to, is a decision for individuals and sometimes the political realm.<\/strong>&nbsp;This should be based on our values and an understanding of the trade-offs and risks and benefits of courses of action \u2014 scientists have no particularly valuable expertise or insights above the rest of us when making such decisions.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Because the term&nbsp;<strong>\u201cclimate change\u201d is so nebulous and ubiquitous,<\/strong>&nbsp;anything connected to persecuting or&nbsp;<strong>suppressing critics<\/strong>&nbsp;of policy surrounding \u201cclimate change\u201d&nbsp;<strong>can also be shifted as easily as the alarmists want.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It is smart and tactical, and<strong>&nbsp;easy to weaponize.<\/strong>&nbsp;It is easy to smear scientists who are skeptical of the dominant narrative by even mere degrees, silence dissent, and possibly worse,<strong>&nbsp;without ever needing to clarify the fullness of the alarmist position or defend the often very extreme political policies<\/strong>&nbsp;that come tied to it.<\/em><em><a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/consensus-by-censoring.png\"><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"519\" data-attachment-id=\"387423\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=387423\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?fit=794%2C570&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"794,570\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?fit=723%2C519&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?resize=723%2C519&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-387423\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?w=794&amp;ssl=1 794w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?resize=300%2C215&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/image-151.png?resize=768%2C551&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>We need to see realist or skeptical politicians and media figures&nbsp;<strong>put the alarmists on their back feet by demanding they define exactly what they mean<\/strong>&nbsp;by \u201cclimate change\u201d when the term is used. If Joe Rogan had asked Sanders to define the term \u201cclimate change\u201d in addition to the other good points Rogan made, we may have been able to see Sanders forced to solidify the term and have his positions questioned in a more direct and devastating way.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>We also need to force alarmists to defend the policy fixes they endorse.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>They need to admit their&nbsp;<strong>effects on liberty and economic prosperity, their impacts on people in poorer countries<\/strong>, and they must explain exactly&nbsp;<strong>how (or if) those policies will change the climate and weather for the better.<\/strong>&nbsp;They need to prove it on time scales where they can actually be held accountable. 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