{"id":384599,"date":"2025-06-24T10:29:59","date_gmt":"2025-06-24T08:29:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=384599"},"modified":"2025-06-24T10:30:00","modified_gmt":"2025-06-24T08:30:00","slug":"naomi-oreskes-tale-of-meeting-dr-s-fred-singer-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=384599","title":{"rendered":"Naomi Oreskes\u2019 Tale of Meeting Dr S Fred Singer, Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"384602\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=384602\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0ChatGPT Image 24. Juni 2025, 10_28_42\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?fit=723%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=723%2C723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-384602\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/0ChatGPT-Image-24.-Juni-2025-10_28_42.png?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">ChatGPT<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2025\/06\/22\/naomi-oreskes-tale-of-meeting-dr-s-fred-singer-part-1\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=18591\">GelbspanFiles.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?author=3\"><strong>Russell Cook<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I\u2019ve detailed at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=17358\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">my \u201cSummary for Policymakers\u201d about Oreskes<\/a>, she \u2013 at minimum \u2013 appears to have a credibility problem; the assortment of narratives she offers about her own role in the climate issue all have inconsistencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One I haven\u2019t covered before is her tale of the late Dr S Fred Singer supposedly confronting her in 2005 back when he was still very much alive. I don\u2019t have all the answers to this particular situation yet, but since&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=12023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">she is on retainer<\/a>&nbsp;with the law firm&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?tag=sher-edling-boilerplate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">putting out the most \u201cExxonKnew\u201d lawsuits<\/a>, and since these lawsuits are now coming under review by judges as to whether they should proceed to trial (e.g.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/05\/29\/climate\/charleston-flooding-climate-lawsuit.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">currently&nbsp;<em>Charleston v Brabham Oil<\/em>)<\/a>, it would be best to have the basic backstory on hand here, in case the scene in fictional courtroom TV dramas ends up to be a real-life situation:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Energy company defendant attorney: \u201c\u2026&nbsp;<em>then we have the contradiction between evidence-provider Naomi Oreskes\u2019 statements where<\/em>&nbsp;\u2026.\u201d<br>Plaintiffs\u2019 attorney: \u201c<em>Objection! Relevance?<\/em>\u201d<br>Energy company defendant attorney, to the Judge: \u201c<em>Goes to credibility<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the situation here, we have Naomi Oreskes\u2019 own words from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/disinformationchronicle.substack.com\/p\/naomi-oreskes-dichron-interview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">a February 10, 2021 interview<\/a>&nbsp;of her at the otherwise ironically named \u201cDisinformation Chronicles\u201d website:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>DiChron\u2019s&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DiChron-Thacker.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Paul Thacker<\/a>:<\/em>&nbsp;So, you gave a conference talk, and there was a slide talking about climate change. And that led to the 2004 scientific paper that found there was a consensus that manmade climate change was happening?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Oreskes:<\/em>&nbsp;Correct. After the talk, the only thing that anybody wanted to ask about was that one slide. Many scientists had no idea that there was a consensus on climate change, because they were reading all these misleading things written by journalists, present company excepted, that was presenting climate change as a big debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I went home and realized I needed to publish this. As my&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/science.sciencemag.org\/content\/306\/5702\/1686.full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2004 article in Science Magazine<\/a>&nbsp;came out, I started getting hate mail, threatening phone calls. The whole kit and caboodle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>DiChron:<\/em>&nbsp;You got phone calls at your office or at your home?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Oreskes:<\/em>\u00a0No, at work. It wasn\u2019t as easy to look up people\u2019s home numbers.\u00a0<strong>A couple of months after that, I met Erik Conway<\/strong>, at an obscure academic conference.\u00a0<strong>By this point, Fred Singer had started attacking me<\/strong>. I mentioned to Erik what was going on, and Fred Singer by name. Erik had been working on a book, and he said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s the same guy who attacked Sherry Rowland over the ozone hole.\u201d \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026&nbsp;<em>DiChron:<\/em>&nbsp;So, he had all this stuff about Fred Singer, in the process of collecting information for his book?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Oreskes:<\/em>&nbsp;Correct. So, Erik tells me about Singer and I thought, \u201cOK, this isn\u2019t about me. It\u2019s something much, much bigger.\u201d Erik had this folder of materials on the ozone story. \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 Erik sent me this material and it became the book we wrote called \u201cMerchants of Doubt\u201d because all the key players were there\u2014Fred Singer, Fred Seitz \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 I started digging a bit more and that\u2019s when I hit the tobacco connection. I already knew Robert Proctor and the work he was doing on the history of tobacco. I called him up and I said, \u201cHave you ever heard of Fred Seitz?\u201d It went from there. \u2026 They hadn\u2019t just denied climate change, they had denied the scientific evidence on a set of environmental and public health issues going back to tobacco. \u2026<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The interview veers into a lengthy irrelevant tangent about the tobacco industry and alleged \u2018science denial.\u2019 It later picks up with:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>DiChron:<\/em>&nbsp;You write about a guy named Fred Singer. I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200423174501\/https:\/\/www.drillednews.com\/post\/fred-singer-obituary-climate-denier\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">wrote an obituary on him<\/a>&nbsp;when he recently died, because I had followed him in the tobacco documents and for years after while was quoted in the media as some type of expert. He was a particularly nasty person. Particularly what he did to a grad student, threatening him with a lawsuit to scare him. And I know that Singer came at you a couple of times. I got the sense that you were a little bit afraid of him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Oreskes:<\/em>&nbsp;Well, I wouldn\u2019t say I was afraid of him, but I did see him as a dangerous person. I\u2019m not afraid of snakes, but I recognize that snakes can be dangerous. I was worried about him pretty early on, because the first time I met him . . . he was a very dishonest person. And because he was so litigious, you had to&nbsp;<strong>be super careful what you said.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now that he\u2019s passed, we can be honest about him. He had a reputation for threatening people. And as you said, he was a very mean person. Bill Nierenberg, for example, he wasn\u2019t mean. He was egotistical, and opinionated, and a bully, but he wasn\u2019t mean. Singer was mean.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fred Singer called me when the American Meteorological Society was meeting in San Diego \u2026 sometime in the mid-2000s,\u00a0<strong>before I knew who he was<\/strong>. He called me up at home and says he\u2019s a scientist and he\u2019s in town for the meeting. And he says he\u2019s a good friend of Walter Munk and that he would like to talk to me about my op-ed in The Washington Post, where I wrote about the consensus on climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We met and then he started being really, really odd. \u201cWell, why did I write that op-ed piece? And who was the editor that I worked with? Did they reach out to you?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At a certain point, I started realizing, \u201cWhy is he asking all these questions, and why does he want to know who the editor was?\u201d That\u2019s not a normal thing for a scientist to ask a fellow scientist. And it started getting creepy. I just said, \u201cYou know, I think we\u2019re done here.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But I remember one thing very clearly. He says to me, \u201cWell, good luck!\u201d And he said it in this really nasty way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And I said, \u201cOh, I don\u2019t need a luck.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And he goes, \u201cOh, yes, you do.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ll never forget that. I\u2019ll never forget the look on his face. So, I called Walter about this really extraordinary exchange, with his friend named Fred Singer. And Walter says, \u201cFred Singer is no friend of mine.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 Walter proceeded to tell me the whole story of Justin Lancaster, the grad student who I think you were referring to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>DiChron:<\/em>&nbsp;Yes. In Fred Singer\u2019s obituary, I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200423174501\/https:\/\/www.drillednews.com\/post\/fred-singer-obituary-climate-denier\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">wrote about what he did<\/a>&nbsp;to Justin Lancaster, because I felt people should know how Singer behaved. Who he really was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Oreskes:<\/em>&nbsp;So, then I was on high alert about Singer. And&nbsp;<strong>very soon after I discovered his role in \u201cMerchants of Doubt.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Right. A very compelling story. So long as nobody questions a solitary word about it, including what so-called \u2018investigative journalist\u2019 interviewer Thacker said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Where does this story start to fall apart? Let me count the ways:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1) Right out of the gate, as I&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=5917\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">detailed back in late 2017<\/a>&nbsp;regarding Oreskes\u2019 tale of her \u2018obscure science conference\u2019 encounter with her future \u201cMerchants of Doubt\u201d book co-author Erik Conway \u2014 there\u2019s&nbsp;<em>no physical way her meetup with Conway could have happened<\/em>&nbsp;the way she describes it. Her paper was published&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/Oreskes-928-to-zilch.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">on&nbsp;<strong>December 3,<\/strong>&nbsp;2004<\/a>; attacks against it followed; she meets Conway who informs her who the \u2018attackers\u2019 is \u2013 again,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/attacker-singular.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>singular<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;\u2013 whereupon she figures out who Dr Singer is. But the one-and-only conference where Oreskes and Conway&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Oreskes-MacD-July-04.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">are both<\/a>&nbsp;documented&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Conway-GARP-July-04.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">attendees<\/a>&nbsp;was a&nbsp;July&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/ICHM-July-04.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2004 conference<\/a>. Conway would\u2019ve needed to travel back in time to warn her who her&nbsp;<em>future<\/em>&nbsp;attacker was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2) I already covered this\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=5176\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 Dr Singer never denied the health effects of cigarette smoking;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/Singer-AT-ETS.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">he said outright that it was not healthy<\/a>. But he railed against the misapplication of science when the Environmental Protection Agency labeled second-hand smoke as a Class A carcinogen when it was not proven to be that kind of carcinogen. When anyone goes beyond that in their accusations, it is nothing more than deliberate disinformation about the man.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">3) Contrary to what supposedly \u2018objective journalist\u2019 Paul Thacker attempts to portray about himself, the obituary he wrote on Dr Singer actually said he&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Thacker-unhinged.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">regretted not taking the opportunity to directly assault Dr Singer<\/a>. As for Thacker\u2019s claims of what Dr Singer supposedly \u2018did\u2019 to Justin Lancaster \u2014 he has it backwards; it was what&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.americanthinker.com\/articles\/2006\/06\/gores_grave_new_world.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dr Lancaster did to Dr Singer<\/a>, namely libelous \/ slanderous action in which Dr Singer ultimately&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20040306091915\/http:\/\/www.hoover.org\/publications\/books\/fulltext\/polscience\/283.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">prevailed in a defamation court case<\/a>. Dr Singer was litigious because so many were&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/Singer-response.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">saying utterly false things<\/a>&nbsp;about him in efforts to impugn his scientific integrity. When you don\u2019t tell the truth about somebody, of course you have to be careful what you say. My impression of Oreskes is that she can be&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/AMS-archivist2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">inexplicably careless about what she says<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">4) The AMS meeting in San Diego \u2026&nbsp;<em>some time in the mid-2000s<\/em>&nbsp;would have to be&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/ams.confex.com\/ams\/Annual2005\/techprogram\/meeting_Annual2005.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the Jan 8-14, 2005 one<\/a>, and her op-ed in the&nbsp;<em>Washington Post<\/em>&nbsp;was \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Oreskes-WashPo-12-25-04.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Undeniable Global Warming<\/a>\u201d (full text&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/archive\/opinions\/2004\/12\/26\/undeniable-global-warming\/9b853c7c-48e9-4d27-9f2f-b24a6e4e1be3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>). Having written a similar theme article&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/Oreskes-LATimes-2003v2-1024x754.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">for the&nbsp;<em>LA Times<\/em>&nbsp;in October 2003<\/a>, is it really plausible that she had&nbsp;<strong><em>no idea<\/em><\/strong>&nbsp;who one of the most prominent critics of the issue, Dr S Fred Singer, was?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">5) \u201c<em>It wasn\u2019t as easy to look up people\u2019s home numbers<\/em>&nbsp;\u2026&nbsp;<em>Fred Singer called me when the American Meteorological Society was meeting in San Diego<\/em>&nbsp;\u2026&nbsp;<em>He called me up&nbsp;<strong>at home<\/strong><\/em>&nbsp;<em>and says he\u2019s a scientist and he\u2019s in town for the meeting<\/em>\u2026\u201d Wouldn\u2019t she get personal hateful calls at her home phone number, and calls for a professional meeting at her college office?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">6) \u201c<em>We met and then he started being really, really odd<\/em>. Met \u2026 where?? At her home or at the AMS conference? Meanwhile, the questions she said he asked are ones which even an ordinary private citizen like myself would ask \u2014 how is it possible that a history professor with no discernible climate science expertise would be offered an opportunity to write an op-ed in one of the nation\u2019s most prominent newspapers, in which she offers dire pronouncements about the&nbsp;<strong>certainty<\/strong>&nbsp;of \u2018settled climate science\u2019? As Dr Singer himself pointed out months before her Dec 2004 \u2018consensus study\u2019 was published, the idea that a \u201cshow of hands\u201d validating a science conclusion&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Singer-show-of-hands-Sept-04.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">was ludicrous<\/a>. MIT\u2019s Dr Richard Lindzen&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Lindzen-12-1-04-no-consensus.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">said the same days before Oreskes\u2019 study was published<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">7) \u201c<em>And&nbsp;very soon after&nbsp;<strong>I discovered<\/strong>&nbsp;his role in \u2018Merchants of Doubt.\u2019<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wait.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In her other narratives, Eric Conway&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=10283\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">or Dr Ben Santer<\/a>&nbsp;had already discovered who Dr Singer was, and&nbsp;<em>told<\/em>&nbsp;her.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When as many of her personal narratives don\u2019t line up right, more questions need to be asked if anything in her claims about Dr Singer visiting \/ directly threatening her in some hostile way has any veracity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Considering the manner in which she gained her major fame in the climate issue in December 2004 \/ January 2005, it\u2019s easy to see why she viewed Dr Singer as a major brick wall in the path of her new career direction. Dr Singer\u2019s&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sepp.org\/twtwfiles\/2005\/Feb.%2012.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Feb. 12, 2005 The Week That Was newsletter<\/a>&nbsp;featured the following&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/TWTW-2-05-Demming-vs-Oreskes.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">from Dr David Demming<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 1975, Newsweek magazine warned us that climate scientists were unanimous in their view that imminent global cooling would produce catastrophic famines. Thirty years later, the prophets of doom are still with us, but now the culprit is global warming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 In a 26 December op-ed published in the Washington Post, Oreskes said that \u201cwe need to&nbsp;stop repeating&nbsp;nonsense about the uncertainty of global warming.\u201d But the man who invented the scientific method,&nbsp;<strong>Francis Bacon, said \u201cif we begin in certainty, we will end in doubts.\u201dIt is perplexing that the lessons of history seem to be lost on an historian.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Two months later, Dr Singer himself aimed a spotlight at a larger problem,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sepp.org\/twtwfiles\/2005\/Apr.%2016.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">in The Week That Was April 16, 2005<\/a>, Item 8 \u2014<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/SciMag-bans-opposition.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Thou Shalt Not Question the Orthodoxy of the Consensus:<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 the myth that there is a \u201cconsensus\u201d about the science backing catastrophic global warming. This myth has been given some credence by Naomi Oreskes (Science Dec 3, 2004). Based on her \u201canalysis\u201d of 934 abstracts, she claims there is not a single one that doubts the GW story.&nbsp;<strong>Anyone can falsify her conclusion by examining the same public database<\/strong>. The real scandal is not so much Oreskes\u2019 biased analysis but that, so far,&nbsp;<strong>Science has<\/strong>&nbsp;refused&nbsp;<strong>to publish such a correction.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want your agenda about saving the ozone layer,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=5573\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">you must kill the critic<\/a>&nbsp;who says the \u2018ozone depletion\u2019 crisis is not a crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want the news that your college professor&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/ERinTBal-pg-6-Revelle.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">recanted his views about global warming<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Revelle-recants-1024x561.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">you must kill the co-author who reported this<\/a>, by doing all you can to impugn his credibility&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/?p=6997\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">to anybody who will listen<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want to keep your agenda switch from ozone depletion to global warming going,&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Passac-watching-accusing-Singer.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">you must kill the opposition<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want to keep&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/Singer-Gelb-not-a-Pulit.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">your \u2018journalism stolen valor\u2019 fatal problem<\/a>&nbsp;out of the news spotlight, you must kill the messenger who alerted the news media about that problem&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/FnF_AFnGW3Q?&amp;t=668s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">by impugning his character any way you can<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you want your undefendable anti-science&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/02\/Monckton-consensus-fallacy2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">logic fallacy<\/a>&nbsp;about consensus validating science conclusions to go unquestioned (thus ensuring your second career based on it continues), you must wipe out your main critic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Via&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Ban-MoDers-2015.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">every avenue<\/a>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gelbspanfiles.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/Ban-MoDers-2021.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">your disposal<\/a>.<br>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<br>If additional info becomes available proving or disproving Naomi Oreskes\u2019 tale about meeting Dr Singer, that will be continued in Part 2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I\u2019ve detailed at my \u201cSummary for Policymakers\u201d about Oreskes, she \u2013 at minimum \u2013 appears to have a credibility problem; 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This is because Professor Naomi Oreskes is an academic who specialises in debunking climate change sceptics. 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