{"id":378311,"date":"2025-05-14T11:49:20","date_gmt":"2025-05-14T09:49:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=378311"},"modified":"2025-05-14T11:49:21","modified_gmt":"2025-05-14T09:49:21","slug":"steve-milloy-all-of-the-above-is-dei-for-energy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=378311","title":{"rendered":"STEVE MILLOY: \u2018All Of The Above\u2019 Is DEI For Energy"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"481\" data-attachment-id=\"378314\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=378314\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?fit=4256%2C2832&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"4256,2832\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0,3O1Vzi\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?fit=723%2C481&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=723%2C481&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-378314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=1024%2C681&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=768%2C511&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=1536%2C1022&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=2048%2C1363&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?resize=1200%2C798&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2025\/05\/13\/steve-milloy-all-of-the-above-is-dei-for-energy\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2025\/05\/11\/opinion-all-of-the-above-is-dei-for-energy-steve-milloy\/\">THE DAILY CALLER<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wattsupwiththat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/image-205.png?resize=528%2C50&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Daily Caller News Foundation\" class=\"wp-image-10239521\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Steve Milloy<br><\/strong>Contributor<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Editor\u2019s note: Big Tent Ideas always aims to provide balancing perspectives on the hottest issues of the day. Below is a column from Steve Milloy, where he argues that wind is hopelessly useless as an energy source and the wind industry doesn\u2019t actually believe in \u201call of the above\u201d energy. You can find a counterpoint&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2025\/05\/11\/opinion-trump-should-embrace-offshore-wind-hilary-bright-and-heather-reams\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>, where Hillary Bright and Heather Reams argue that support for wind energy is actually consistent with President Trump\u2019s energy strategy, and that progressives merely used the industry for their own purposes.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Restoring Energy Dominance (RED) Coalition recently produced an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RrWhliVT_7M&amp;feature=youtu.be\">ad<\/a>\u00a0advocating for \u201call forms of energy.\u201d \u201cYou voted for it, you got it,\u201d the ad starts. It features a clip of President Trump saying \u201cAll forms of energy, yep\u2026\u201d What exactly does \u201call forms of energy,\u201d or its 21st century shorthand, \u201call of the above\u201d really mean? Is it good policy\u201d And is President Trump for it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The concept of \u2018all of the above\u2019 dates back to a mid-2000s convergence of energy-related events including: (1) the then emerging but imaginary \u201cclimate crisis\u201d and (2) an actual energy crisis caused by a combination of factors including the Iraq war, US dependence on OPEC, the rise of energy-hungry China and India, the notion of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Peak_oil\">Peak Oil<\/a>&nbsp;and more. Congress\u2019s solution to this was the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/109\/plaws\/publ58\/PLAW-109publ58.pdf\">Energy Policy Act of 2005<\/a>&nbsp;signed into law by President Bush. It called for expanding domestic energy production, including: oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear, and renewables. \u201cAll of the above\u201d wasn\u2019t in common usage at the time, but the law essentially embodied it.&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2025\/05\/11\/opinion-trump-should-embrace-offshore-wind-hilary-bright-and-heather-reams\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">(RELATED: HILLARY BRIGHT AND HEATHER REAMS: Trump Should Embrace Offshore Wind)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAll of the above\u201d subsequently came into more common use, albeit with different variations, during President Obama\u2019s \u201cwar on coal\u201d and his embrace of Executive action to cut emissions because of \u201cclimate change.\u201d For President Obama, \u201call of the above\u201d meant all forms of energy except for coal, which he tried to regulate into extinction. To counter Obama, the coal industry and its Republican supporters used \u201call of the above\u201d as a desperate means of including coal in the US energy equation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the tables have now turned. President Trump supports the booming oil and gas industry, the now-crippled coal industry; the flailing nuclear industry and solar power. He campaigned and has&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JunkScience\/status\/1907525782475260399\">repeatedly spoken<\/a>&nbsp;against the onshore and offshore wind industry. He has also issued an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/presidential-actions\/2025\/01\/temporary-withdrawal-of-all-areas-on-the-outer-continental-shelf-from-offshore-wind-leasing-and-review-of-the-federal-governments-leasing-and-permitting-practices-for-wind-projects\/\">executive order<\/a>&nbsp;to review offshore wind projects and has, thus far,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JunkScience\/status\/1912855221476171943\">paused<\/a>&nbsp;one specific project. It is now the wind industry\u2019s turn to scream \u201call of the above\u201d in hopes of remaining part of the US energy equation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">President Trump also campaigned and has taken&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/presidential-actions\/2025\/01\/unleashing-american-energy\/\">executive action<\/a>&nbsp;against what he often calls the \u201cGreen New Scam,\u201d which means the climate spending and energy subsidies contained in President Biden\u2019s 2022 Inflation Reduction Act. Opponents of the Green New Scam hope to repeal the subsidies in President Trump\u2019s upcoming Big Beautiful Bill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The RED Coalition ad would take us back to the days of the Energy Policy Act and its focus on producing domestic energy from all sources. While that may sound reasonable, it ignores the realities we\u2019ve experienced and lessons we\u2019ve learned over the past 20 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First, Energy Policy Act proponents did not foresee the late-2000s advent and impact of fracking for oil and gas. Whereas in 2005 we were dependent on imports of natural gas and were running out of cheap oil production options, fracking changed the global energy situation almost overnight. Fracking gave the US essentially a limitless supply of oil and gas. That has essentially crushed OPEC\u2019s ability to control the global price of oil. Thanks to fracking, we probably have enough oil and gas to run the entire US economy without any other form of energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Second, we have been told for decades that wind and solar were cheaper than fossil fuels and were a solution to the alleged \u201cclimate crisis.\u201d Both claims have been proven to be false. Wind and solar have not reduced the price of electricity for anyone. At best, they have only reallocated energy costs to taxpayers. Wind and solar have only increased the price of electricity for consumers, even when it is subsidized by taxpayers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Worse, solar and wind have jeopardized the reliability of our grid. Grid operators now routinely&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JunkScience\/status\/1713902895798554856\">warn<\/a>&nbsp;of possible grid failure during peak demand. A February winter storm in Texas&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/insidesources.com\/texas-exposes-bidens-climate-folly\/\">froze<\/a>&nbsp;the wind turbines, resulting in hundreds of deaths and almost causing catastrophic grid failure. Too much solar and wind caused a similar grid&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JunkScience\/status\/1917569116761907581\">crisis<\/a>&nbsp;in Spain and Portugal just last month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wind and solar have never been economically viable without subsidies. That\u2019s why wind and solar supporters oppose the end of the Green New Scam. Not only do wind and solar require taxpayer subsidies, they are also intrinsically subsidized by government mandates, and the sourcing of materials and labor from Communist China. This has also had the national security-imperiling effect of making our electricity grid dependent on our geopolitical rival.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, wind and solar have also been an environmental disaster in terms of great birds, bats, whales and much other marine life killed. Their oversized footprints are made essentially a permanent part of the environment because of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/JunkScience\/status\/853240987342303232\">vast amounts<\/a>&nbsp;of concrete and iron rebar used in their foundations. There are also national security&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/118\/meeting\/house\/115640\/documents\/HHRG-118-II06-20230426-SD005.pdf\">concerns<\/a>&nbsp;with offshore wind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We need energy that works. After 20 years of experience, \u201call of the above\u201d is just affirmative action for wind and solar energy. If energy decisions were made on the basis of standard economic merit, like cost and functionality, then oil, gas, coal and nuclear power would win hands down. President Trump occasionally says kind things about solar, but not about wind. He saves his lavish praise and attention for those most deserving: oil, gas and coal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Steve Milloy is a biostatistician and lawyer, publishes JunkScience.com and is on X @JunkScience.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The views and opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author and do not reflect the official position of the Daily Caller News Foundation.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>All content created by the Daily Caller News Foundation, an independent and nonpartisan newswire service, is available without charge to any legitimate news publisher that can provide a large audience. All republished articles must include our logo, our reporter\u2019s byline and their DCNF affiliation. For any questions about our guidelines or partnering with us, please contact&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:licensing@dailycallernewsfoundation.org\">licensing@dailycallernewsfoundation.org<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Restoring Energy Dominance (RED) Coalition recently produced an\u00a0ad\u00a0advocating for \u201call forms of energy.\u201d \u201cYou voted for it, you got it,\u201d the ad starts. It features a clip of President Trump saying \u201cAll forms of energy, yep\u2026\u201d What exactly does \u201call forms of energy,\u201d or its 21st century shorthand, \u201call of the above\u201d really mean? Is it good policy\u201d And is President Trump for it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":378314,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818128,691818849,691831235],"class_list":{"0":"post-378311","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-energy","9":"tag-green-new-deal","10":"tag-offshore-wind-osw","12":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/03O1Vzi.jpg?fit=4256%2C2832&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1ApN","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":257695,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=257695","url_meta":{"origin":378311,"position":0},"title":"Morano on Newsmax: \u201cSay hell no to NetZero!\u201d","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"16\/05\/2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Marc Morano of ClimateDepot.com and author of The Great Reset: Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. 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