{"id":375496,"date":"2025-04-17T11:03:40","date_gmt":"2025-04-17T09:03:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=375496"},"modified":"2025-04-17T11:03:42","modified_gmt":"2025-04-17T09:03:42","slug":"kiesling-likes-government-electricity-planning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=375496","title":{"rendered":"Kiesling Likes Government Electricity Planning"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From Master Resource<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Robert Bradley Jr.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u201cKiesling intellectually resides in the government sandbox, where dilute, intermittent, fragile, government-dependent wind and solar is coordinated by ISO\/RTO planners. Add (subsidized) storage, then whatever is left on the supply side can be equilibrated on the demand side with \u2018smart meters\u2019 (another government play) in your home or business.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

She fancies herself a classical liberal, a free-market type fully conversant with the arguments against central economic planning (Mises, Hayek, Lavoie). But when it gets to government planning of the electricity market, her specialty<\/em>, the veneer comes off. It is \u2018market processes\u2019 within the rigged, governmental market. Welcome to the woman of system<\/a>, technocrat Lynne Kiesling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Consider this exhibit:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Kiesling intellectually resides in the government sandbox, where dilute, intermittent, fragile, government-dependent wind and solar are coordinated by ISO\/RTO planners. Add storage (another government play), and then whatever happens on the supply side can be equilibrated on the demand side with \u2018smart meters\u2019 (another government play) in your home or business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hot afternoon and the wind isn\u2019t blowing? Your thermostat flips to 78 degrees. No solar during the night? Can\u2019t turn on some of your appliances. Your \u2018smart meter\u2019\u2013expensive but necessary\u2013is boss in her neoclassical \u2018efficient\u2019, climate-alarmist \u2018decarbonized\u2019 world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What happens when the Production Tax Credit, the Investment Tax Credit, and the Inflation Reduction Act go away? Wind, solar, and batteries would reveal their true negative economics, to be replaced by reliable government-neutral generation that consumers wanted in the first place. Government sandbox emptied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What happens to the electricity policy consultants and little generals\u2013the technocrats\u2013when mandatory open access and central wholesale power planning by the Regional Transmission Organizations (RTOs) and Independent System Operators (ISOs) go away? Perhaps some will find employment with an integrated electricity major or with independents in the structure of production, adding real value under profit\/loss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A real free market in electricity\u2013studiously avoided by Kiesling\u2013is worth exploring. I have presented the case here<\/a>. Will she lower her nose and engage?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Appendix A: Social Engineering<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

This social media post<\/a> is indicative of how social engineering is taking over the electricity market in a world of mandatory access and government wind\/solar\/battery forcing in the market.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Appendix B: Another Illustration<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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Appendix C: Kiesling\u2019s Electricity Statism and Dodgeball<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Electricity Statism or Free Markets? (Kiesling shows more cards)<\/a> (December 19, 2024)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lynne Kiesling: All in with the \u2018Virtual Power Plant\u2019 (Biden\/Harris policy vs. free markets)<\/a> (October 7, 2024)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Electricity Statism Conference: Kiesling Rides High<\/a> (June 25, 2024)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Great Texas Blackout of 2021: Triumph of the Unreliables<\/a> (February 20, 2024)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kiesling vs. Cato\u2019s Fisher on Free Market Electricity: For the Record<\/a> (February 8, 2024)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kiesling: ISOs\/RTOs Suffer from \u201cThe Knowledge Problem\u201d<\/a> (November 1, 2023<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Horwitz vs. Kiesling on Climate<\/a> (October 3, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Renewable Tax Credits: Kiesling Ducks Again<\/a> (July 20, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Free Market Electricity: End the Blackout (Kiesling bobs and weaves)<\/a> (July 11, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Woman of System: Lynne Kiesling as Electricity Planner<\/a> (July 12, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Will Lynne Kiesling Show More Cards? (electricity in crisis, time for debate!)<\/a> (May 18, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Electricity Policy: An Exchange with Lynne Kiesling (more evasion, statism from a \u201cclassical liberal\u201d)<\/a> (May 11, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Are Electricity ISOs\/RTOs Government Central Planning?<\/a> (February 17, 2023)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cElectricity Restructuring: The Texas Story\u201d (revisiting a book gone sour)<\/a> (August 18, 2022)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Classical Liberalism and Electricity: Ten Questions for Lynne Kiesling<\/a> (August 17, 2022)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Classical Liberalism and Electricity: An (Unfinished) Exchange with Lynne Kiesling<\/a> (August 16, 2022)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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