{"id":367900,"date":"2025-02-27T16:10:33","date_gmt":"2025-02-27T15:10:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=367900"},"modified":"2025-02-27T16:10:35","modified_gmt":"2025-02-27T15:10:35","slug":"like-dropping-napalm-on-the-whole-climate-blob-us-epa-recommends-dropping-endangerment-finding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=367900","title":{"rendered":"Like dropping napalm on the whole Climate Blob: US EPA recommends dropping \u201cendangerment finding\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From JoNova<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Jo Nova<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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If CO2 isn\u2019t endangering lives, legally, there\u2019s no reason to outlaw oil and gas<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Marc Morano of ClimateDepot calls this the \u201choly grail\u201d of the climate agenda.<\/a> Most of the climate policies of the United States depend on \u201cthe Endangerment Finding\u201d\u2013 so President Trump asked the new EPA head to look closely at it. This is the \u201cfinding\u201d in 2009 that CO2 endangers the public<\/a>, and that in turn means the EPA must regulate this \u201cpollutant\u201d. Thereby becoming the perfect excuse to allow the bureaucrats to regulate cars, trucks, planes, gas stoves and anything from hair dryers to home insulation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The new EPA head just finished his 30 day consideration and recommends the Whitehouse rewrite the past conclusion entirely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ann Carlson of\u00a0LegalPlanet<\/a>\u00a0says undoing the Endangerment Finding \u2026\u201d would mean full-blown warfare against all things climate.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/em>She describes how the entire bureaucratic edifice crumbles if CO2 is not a pollutant:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If the Administration were to reverse the endangerment finding, greenhouse gases would no longer need to be regulated under the Clean Air Act. Presumably, EPA would then simply move to revoke all of Biden\u2019s major climate rules regulating cars, trucks, power plants, and oil and gas operations.   As Joe Goffman, former Assistant Administrator for Air and Radiation under President Biden, told Politico<\/a>, recently, \u201ctaking away the 2009 endangerment finding would really make it almost a virtual formality to take down all the greenhouse rules for CO2 and methane,\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This great news, of course, blows some minds<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

From Bloomberg<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThere is a lot of shocking stuff happening now, but to completely deny climate change and any federal obligation to control the pollution that\u2019s driving it would be shocking and irresponsible,\u201d said David Doniger, senior attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Environmental advocates contend it also would be illegal. \u201cClimate pollution is air pollution, and it is fueling a crisis,\u201d said Margie Alt, director of the Climate Action Campaign. \u201cThere is no scientific basis \u2013 none \u2013 to claim otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ann Carlson of LegalPlanet explains, bless her, that the EPA did all \u201cthe Science\u201d and public consultation (after twenty years of indoctrination) to get this endangerment \u201cfinding\u201d through in the first places so if Trump doesn\u2019t follow the same process, they\u2019ll get sued. She\u2019s sure Trump would lose \u201cbecause the science is\u2026 overwhelming\u201d. Clearly, she has no idea ten times as many people die of the cold<\/a>, (or even twenty time<\/a>s as many) or that the entire causal \u201cevidence\u201d for the dangers of CO2 depends on models<\/a> that pretend the Sun is just a big light-globe<\/a>. These models ignore the solar-electric field, the magnetic field, UV changes and the solar wind, and then, surprise, get nearly every prediction wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Global warming saves 166,000 lives a year<\/a>. It\u2019s just a shame CO2 doesn\u2019t cause more warming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We\u2019re just getting started<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Believers are telling themselves all kinds of lies at the moment just to cope with the shock. They\u2019re hoping that individual states will still be able to make self defeating climate rules, they\u2019re warning it could take years for the EPA to get through the proper rule-making process. They\u2019re comforting themselves that other legal doors will open if this one closes: even though teenagers might not be able to sue essential corporations for doing their jobs, \u201cit could revive public nuisance laws\u201d against oil producers. Praise the Lord!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trump should not only set up a scientific group to investigate whether CO2 causes any harm, he should follow the evidence all the way. If the scientists consider the total cost-benefits of CO2, they\u2019d easily show CO2 is an asset that feeds the poor, restores the forests, and improves life on Earth. Obviously, those companies and countries emitting CO2 are doing the world a favor. Coal, oil and gas plants should get tax deductions for their contributions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Indeed, airconditioners save 20,000 lives in USA each year<\/a>, so any products that increase the cost of electricity are the ones endangering lives\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

h\/t OldOzzie, David of Cooyal in Oz, RickWill, David+Wojick, another ian, Gerry England. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Most of the climate policies of the United States depend on \u201cthe Endangerment Finding\u201d\u2013 so President Trump asked the new EPA head to look closely at it. This is the \u201cfinding\u201d in 2009 that CO2 endangers the public, and that in turn means the EPA must regulate this \u201cpollutant\u201d. Thereby becoming the perfect excuse to allow the bureaucrats to regulate cars, trucks, planes, gas stoves and anything from hair dryers to home insulation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":367905,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691829997,691818153,691833542,691833292,691818366],"class_list":{"0":"post-367900","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-carbon-dioxide-co","9":"tag-climate-models","10":"tag-endangerment-finding","11":"tag-epa-environmental-protection-agency","12":"tag-methane","14":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/0Gkvo29NaoAEvCpD.jpg?fit=1200%2C802&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1xHS","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":375767,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=375767","url_meta":{"origin":367900,"position":0},"title":"Endangerment Finding endangers energy & freedom","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"19\/04\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"One of the Trump administration\u2019s most important executive actions is the Environmental Protection Agency\u2019s review of the Obama EPA\u2019s determination that carbon dioxide (CO2) endangers our health.","rel":"","context":"In \"carbon dioxide (CO\u2082)\"","block_context":{"text":"carbon dioxide (CO\u2082)","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=carbon-dioxide-co%e2%82%82"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/00ANOVO-que-es-economi-circular-v4_01.jpg?fit=1200%2C601&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/00ANOVO-que-es-economi-circular-v4_01.jpg?fit=1200%2C601&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/00ANOVO-que-es-economi-circular-v4_01.jpg?fit=1200%2C601&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/00ANOVO-que-es-economi-circular-v4_01.jpg?fit=1200%2C601&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/00ANOVO-que-es-economi-circular-v4_01.jpg?fit=1200%2C601&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":395612,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=395612","url_meta":{"origin":367900,"position":1},"title":"Breathing Easier: EPA\u2019s Bold Move to Axe the \u2018Endangerment Finding\u2019","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"16\/08\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"EPA\u2019s proposed action will worsen the \u201cclimate crisis\u201d and \u201cendanger people\u2019s health,\u201d the Sierra Club laments. 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