{"id":365702,"date":"2025-02-11T16:34:00","date_gmt":"2025-02-11T15:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=365702"},"modified":"2025-02-11T16:42:05","modified_gmt":"2025-02-11T15:42:05","slug":"david-karolys-climate-crisis-fewer-frost-mornings-in-melbourne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=365702","title":{"rendered":"David Karoly\u2019s Climate Crisis \u2013 Fewer Frost Mornings in Melbourne?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"406\" data-attachment-id=\"365705\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=365705\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?fit=1778%2C998&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1778,998\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0,5cd356ba2400005600a90e52\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?fit=723%2C406&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=723%2C406&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-365705\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=1024%2C575&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=768%2C431&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=1536%2C862&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?resize=1200%2C674&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?w=1778&amp;ssl=1 1778w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2025\/02\/10\/david-karolys-climate-crisis-fewer-frost-mornings-in-melbourne\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Essay by<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/author\/eworrall1\/\">Eric Worrall<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Should we shut down Western industrial civilisation to bring back the frost?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u2018Global weirding\u2019: How our \u2018normal\u2019 is becoming more extreme<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fires in winter and devastating floods \u2014 the weather is getting \u201cweirder\u201d and more extreme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">David Karoly remembers regularly seeing frost when he was a young boy on his way to school in Melbourne \u2014 now it\u2019s become an unusual sight for the city.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The decline in frosty days is one of many weather-related changes that people around the world are noticing and describing as \u201cweird\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate change has already driven global temperatures up by an average of 1.55C compared to pre-industrial levels, and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sbs.com.au\/news\/article\/stark-warning-as-scientists-say-hottest-year-on-record-exceeded-paris-agreement-threshold\/nho56nq1i\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><u>2024 was the hottest year on record<\/u><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Individual \u201cglobal weirding\u201d events may or may not be linked to climate change<\/strong>&nbsp;but Karoly, who is an internationally recognised expert on climate change, says they are happening more often.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026Read more:\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sbs.com.au\/news\/article\/what-is-global-weirding-how-normal-is-becoming-more-extreme\/rl8k19za5\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.sbs.com.au\/news\/article\/what-is-global-weirding-how-normal-is-becoming-more-extreme\/rl8k19za5<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Karoly goes on to describe some big storms and other events, but I\u2019m pretty sure severe storm events also happened before the industrial age. As the article said, events \u201cmay or may not be linked to climate change\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think we should look for a little more confirmation before spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a problem which \u201cmay or may not\u201d exist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for frost in Melbourne, I lived in Melbourne for a while as a kid. I remember frost in Melbourne \u2013 living in a cheap uninsulated wooden house, you felt the frost before you saw it. Frost may be fun if you are watching from a warm room with a roaring fire, but experiencing frost in a cheap 1950s house with a small fireplace and an asbestos sheet outdoor toilet somewhat diminishes the magic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We were not especially poor \u2013 lots of people lived in low quality houses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately lots of people in Melbourne and elsewhere in Australia still live in low quality houses. With Aussie energy bills skyrocketing thanks to Australia\u2019s green energy zealotry,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rmit.edu.au\/news\/all-news\/2023\/may\/hidden-energy-poverty\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">one in four Aussies struggle to pay home heating bills<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even those lucky enough to still have a fireplace which works, providing fuel for that fireplace is more challenging than when I was a kid.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.vic.gov.au\/sad-reality-illegal-firewood-collection-victoria\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">You potentially face severe penalties in today\u2019s Australia for collecting firewood from wilderness areas.<\/a>&nbsp;And while using a wood fire for home heating is not illegal in Melbourne, clean air laws are much stricter than when I was young. If you burn anything other than expensive kiln dried wood or smokeless fuel, you could face legal repercussions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Frosty mornings in Melbourne are certainly not something I would fight to preserve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Should we shut down Western industrial civilisation to bring back the frost?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":365705,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818056,691818102,691833244,691833245,691823809],"class_list":{"0":"post-365702","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-climate-change","9":"tag-climate-crisis","10":"tag-david-karoly","11":"tag-frost","12":"tag-melbourne","14":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/05cd356ba2400005600a90e52.jpeg?fit=1778%2C998&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1x8q","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":382379,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=382379","url_meta":{"origin":365702,"position":0},"title":"Recent Devastating Floods Failed to Convince Climate Skeptic Aussie Farmers","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"06\/09\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"\u201c\u2026 I believe the Australian climate has always been a land of droughts and floods \u2026\u201d","rel":"","context":"In \"Australian climate\"","block_context":{"text":"Australian climate","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=australian-climate"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=1200%2C695&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=1200%2C695&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=1200%2C695&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=1200%2C695&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/06\/428cb5e678da63e8f316391bc0d6116d.jpg?fit=1200%2C695&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":212863,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=212863","url_meta":{"origin":365702,"position":1},"title":"Ex-Cabinet minister Lord Frost says there is no \u2018climate emergency\u2019 and Britain should end focus on \u2018medieval\u2019 wind power","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"08\/10\/2022","format":false,"excerpt":"Lord Frost despaired at how Britons are told by climate activists to \u2018stop travelling, live local, eat less, stop eating meat, turn our lights out, and generally to stop being a burden\u2019.","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/image-320.png?fit=668%2C768&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/image-320.png?fit=668%2C768&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/image-320.png?fit=668%2C768&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x"},"classes":[]},{"id":214166,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=214166","url_meta":{"origin":365702,"position":2},"title":"Time to Ditch Meaningless Medieval Wind Power &#038; 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