{"id":360658,"date":"2025-01-06T08:43:43","date_gmt":"2025-01-06T07:43:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=360658"},"modified":"2025-01-06T08:43:45","modified_gmt":"2025-01-06T07:43:45","slug":"scientists-greenland-july-14c-warmer-with-35-less-co2-250000-years-ago","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=360658","title":{"rendered":"Scientists: Greenland July 14\u00b0C Warmer With 35% Less CO2 250,000 Years Ago!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From NoTrickZone<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By\u00a0P Gosselin<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

CO2 theory called into question<\/a>\u2026inconvenient truths emerge<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

A new study by Bierman et al titled: Plant, insect, and fungi fossils under the center of Greenland\u2019s ice sheet are evidence of ice-free times<\/a>, shows that \u201cin the middle of Greenland, where a three-kilometer-thick ice sheet now sits, plants and insects once flourished and at CO2 levels well below today\u2019s levels.\u201d \u2013 Report 24<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hat-tip: Katrin Kana<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Greenland was teeming with life 250,000 years ago, scientists have found. Image\u00a0Nature<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Hotter with less CO2? That puts the CO2 global warming theory on its head.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

14\u00b0C warmer with 35% Less CO2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The scientists have proven that central Greenland was completely ice-free in the recent geological past \u2013 around 250,000 to 1.1 million years ago \u2013 at a time when the atmospheric CO2 content was between 275 and 290 ppm, compared to 420 today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

During drilling on the GISP2 project, researchers found some surprises: remains of poppies, moss ferns, wood tissue and insect parts. That means where we have perpetual ice today, there was once abundant life and warmth not long ago. The scientists estimate a July mean temperature of between +3 and +7\u00b0C compared to the -7\u00b0C measured today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

According to Germany\u2019s online Report24 here<\/a>,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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What is particularly interesting is that the CO2 concentration of this ice-free period corresponds almost exactly to the values of the \u201cLittle Ice Age\u201d between 1700 and 1900.\u201d [\u2026] \u201cThe study raises fundamental questions. For example: If Greenland could be ice-free at low CO2 levels, what factors really determine whether it freezes or thaws? The answer is likely to be more complex than some climate hysterics would like.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Such warmth, at Little Ice Age CO2-levels, is a very inconvenient fact for the climate alarmists and it suggests that the climate system is indeed far more complicated than the straight line CO2-temperature claims made by the government-funded scientists and non-questioning media want us to believe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

They\u2019ve got some explaining to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

See full article (German) at Report 24 here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A new study by Bierman et al titled:\u00a0Plant, insect, and fungi fossils under the center of Greenland\u2019s ice sheet are evidence of ice-free times, shows that \u201cin the middle of Greenland, where a three-kilometer-thick ice sheet now sits, plants and insects once flourished and at CO2 levels well below today\u2019s levels.\u201d \u2013\u00a0Report 24<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":360662,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691829997,691832456,691818087,691818252,691832455],"class_list":{"0":"post-360658","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-carbon-dioxide-co","9":"tag-gisp2-project","10":"tag-global-warming","11":"tag-greenland","12":"tag-plants-and-insects","14":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/0Seljalandsfoss-summer.webp?fit=1920%2C932&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1vP4","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":360304,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=360304","url_meta":{"origin":360658,"position":0},"title":"Central Greenland Was Recently Ice-Free and Covered with Plants When CO2 Was Under 300 ppm","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"03\/01\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Scientists have known since the GISP2 borehole was drilled in 1993 that Central Greenland deglaciated at least once in the late Pleistocene (Bierman et al., 2024). 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