{"id":358332,"date":"2024-12-23T10:10:54","date_gmt":"2024-12-23T09:10:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=358332"},"modified":"2024-12-23T10:10:56","modified_gmt":"2024-12-23T09:10:56","slug":"cautious-optimism-on-the-demise-of-the-green-energy-fantasy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=358332","title":{"rendered":"Cautious Optimism on the Demise of the Green Energy Fantasy"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"482\" data-attachment-id=\"358336\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=358336\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?fit=1280%2C853&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,853\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?fit=723%2C482&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?resize=723%2C482&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-358336\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?resize=1024%2C682&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?resize=1200%2C800&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0BN-JF776_edp070_M_20150705140107.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2024-12-21-cautious-optimism-on-the-demise-of-the-green-energy-fantasy\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2024-12-21-cautious-optimism-on-the-demise-of-the-green-energy-fantasy\">Manhattan Contrarian<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/?author=503a7965e4b0b543ed24305c\">Francis Menton<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It has been obvious now for many years to the numerate that the fantasy future powered by wind and sun is not going to happen. Sooner or later, reality will inevitably intrude. And yet, the fantasy has gone on for far longer than I ever would have thought possible. Hundreds of billions of dollars of government largesse have been a big part of the reason, going not just to green energy developers but also to academic charlatans and environmental NGOs to fan the flames of climate alarm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was three years ago, in December 2021, that I asked the question, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2021-12-17-which-country-or-us-state-will-be-the-first-to-hit-the-renewable-energy-wall\">\u201cWhich Country Or U.S. State Will Be The First To Hit The Green Energy Wall?\u201d<\/a> The \u201cgreen energy wall\u201d would occur when addition of wind and solar generators to the grid could no longer continue, either due to regular blackouts or soaring costs or both. Candidates for first to hit the wall considered in that post included California, New York, Germany and the UK. I wrote then:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>All these places, despite their wealth and seeming sophistication, are embarking on their ambitious plans without ever having conducted any kind of detailed engineering study of how their new proposed energy systems will work or how much they will cost. . .. As these jurisdictions ramp up their wind and solar generation, and gradually eliminate the coal and natural gas, sooner or later one or another of them is highly likely to hit a \u201cwall\u201d \u2014 that is, a situation where the electricity system stops functioning, or the price goes through the roof, or both, forcing a drastic alteration or even abandonment of the whole scheme.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Three years on, it looks like Germany is winning the race to the wall. After a couple of decades of \u201cEnergiewende,\u201d Germany has closed all of its nuclear plants and much of its fossil fuel capacity, with a huge build-out of wind and solar generation. How\u2019s that going? The German site <a href=\"https:\/\/notrickszone.com\/2024\/12\/21\/as-germanys-energy-crisis-heightens-two-brief-windless-periods-pushes-grid-to-the-limit\/\">NoTricksZone posts today<\/a> an English translation of a piece yesterday by Fritz Vahrenholt at the site <em>Klimanachrichten<\/em> (Climate News). The translated headline is \u201cTwo brief periods of wind doldrums and Germany\u2019s power supply reaches its limits.\u201d Excerpt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>From November 2 to November 8 and from December 10 to December 13, Germany\u2019s electricity supply from renewable energies collapsed as a typical winter weather situation with a lull in the wind and minimal solar irradiation led to supply shortages, high electricity imports and skyrocketing electricity prices. At times, <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/t32b8e15b.emailsys1a.net\/c\/200\/7972759\/1101\/0\/11169274\/5390\/530679\/c8d396a84b.html\"><em>over 20,000 MW<\/em><\/a><em>, more than a quarter of Germany\u2019s electricity requirements, had to be imported. Electricity prices <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/t32b8e15b.emailsys1a.net\/c\/200\/7972759\/1101\/0\/11169274\/5390\/530680\/08d47d514b.html\"><em>rose tenfold (93.6 \u20acct\/kWh)<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They avoided blackouts this time (barely) by importing more than a quarter of their electricity during the times of wind\/sun drought. But the sudden demands for huge imports caused the spot price of electricity in the markets to soar, affecting not only Germany but also the neighbors who supplied the power. Vahrenholt provides this map indicating the prices reached during the December wind\/sun drought:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"698\" data-attachment-id=\"358334\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=358334\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?fit=1472%2C1420&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1472,1420\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?fit=723%2C698&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?resize=723%2C698&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-358334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?resize=1024%2C988&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?resize=300%2C289&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?resize=768%2C741&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?resize=1200%2C1158&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/image-425.png?w=1472&amp;ssl=1 1472w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u20ac 936.28\/MWh is almost $1 per kWh. And that\u2019s a wholesale price; retail would be at least double. By contrast, average U.S. electricity prices are well under $0.20\/kWh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vahrenholt reasonably attributes the huge price spikes to elimination of reliable nuclear and fossil fuel plants, leaving Germany subject to the vagaries of the wind and sun:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The reason [for the price spikes]: The socialist\/green led coalition government and the prior Merkel governments had decommissioned 19 nuclear power plants (30% of Germany\u2019s electricity demand) and 15 coal-fired power plants were taken off the grid on April 1, 2023 alone.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From Wolfgang Gro\u00dfe Entrup, Managing Director of the German Chemical Industry Association:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cIt\u2019s desperate. Our companies and our country cannot afford fair-weather production. We urgently need power plants that can step in safely.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is also clear from Vahrenholtz\u2019s map how Germany\u2019s sudden surge of demand affected the countries that supplied the imports on short notice \u2014 particularly Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Austria. Here is the reaction in Norway:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Norway\u2019s energy minister in the center-left government, Terja Aasland, wants to cut the power cable to Denmark and renegotiate the electricity contracts with Germany. He is thus responding to the demands of the right-wing Progress Party, which has been calling for this for a long time and will probably win the next elections. According to the Progress Party, the price infection from the south must be stopped.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the same from Sweden:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Swedish Energy Minister <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/t32b8e15b.emailsys1a.net\/c\/200\/7972759\/1101\/0\/11169274\/5390\/530709\/a3eea7ba77.html\"><em>Ebba Busch<\/em><\/a><em> was even clearer: \u201cIt is difficult for an industrial economy to rely on the benevolence of the weather gods for its prosperity.\u201d And directly to Habeck\u2019s green policy: \u201c<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/t32b8e15b.emailsys1a.net\/c\/200\/7972759\/1101\/0\/11169274\/5390\/530709\/a3eea7ba77.html\"><em>No political will is strong enough to override the laws of physics \u2013 not even Mr. Habeck\u2019s.<\/em><\/a><em>\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When the neighbors decline to continue to supply Germany with imports during its wind\/sun droughts, then it will be blackouts instead of price spikes. We continue to move slowly toward that inevitability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In other news from Germany, its auto industry is struggling (also from soaring energy prices, not to mention EV mandates), and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/12\/16\/world\/europe\/germany-confidence-vote-scholz-snap-election.html\">its government has just fallen<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tradingeconomics.com\/germany\/gdp-growth-annual#:~:text=GDP%20Annual%20Growth%20Rate%20in,the%20second%20quarter%20of%202020.\">Economic growth has ground to a halt<\/a>. This is what the green energy wall looks like. Elections will be held sometime in the new year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m feeling cautiously optimistic that the world will wake up from the green energy bad dream before the damage turns to disaster. Our incoming U.S. administration seems to have caught on. Germany, sorry you had to be the guinea pig for this failed experiment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It has been obvious now for many years to the numerate that the fantasy future powered by wind and sun is not going to happen. Sooner or later, reality will inevitably intrude. And yet, the fantasy has gone on for far longer than I ever would have thought possible. 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