{"id":355320,"date":"2024-12-19T14:14:51","date_gmt":"2024-12-19T13:14:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=355320"},"modified":"2024-12-19T14:14:54","modified_gmt":"2024-12-19T13:14:54","slug":"mark-mills-compares-hydrocarbons-and-renewables","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=355320","title":{"rendered":"Mark Mills Compares Hydrocarbons and Renewables"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"613\" data-attachment-id=\"355326\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=355326\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?fit=1080%2C915&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1080,915\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Screenshot 2024-12-19 141248\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?fit=723%2C613&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?resize=723%2C613&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-355326\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?resize=1024%2C868&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?resize=300%2C254&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?resize=768%2C651&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0Screenshot-2024-12-19-141248.png?w=1080&amp;ssl=1 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.friendsofscience.org\/2024\/12\/17\/mark-mills-compares-hydrocarbons-and-renewables\/\">Friends of Science Calgary<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Contributed by Robert Lyman \u00a9 2024. Robert Lyman\u2019s bio can be read&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/blog.friendsofscience.org\/2019\/05\/29\/robert-lyman-background-and-experience\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>EXECUTIVE SUMMARY<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mark Mills is a Professor of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois. He also is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and one of the leading analysts and commentators on energy and climate issues. A few years ago, he wrote three lengthy articles that addressed the implications and challenges related to the proposed transition of the world economy from its present dominant reliance on hydrocarbons (i.e. oil, natural gas and coal) to so-called \u201cclean energy and renewables\u201d to meet growing energy needs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This article will use quotations from Mark Mills\u2019 articles to illustrate his views on the differences between hydrocarbons and renewable energy, in particular industrial wind turbines and solar energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To completely replace hydrocarbons over the next 20 years, global renewable energy production would have to increase by at least 90-fold. For context: it took a half-century for global oil and gas production to expand by 10-fold.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hydrocarbons \u2013 oil, natural gas and coal \u2013 are the world\u2019s principal energy resource today and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. Wind turbines, solar arrays, and batteries, meanwhile, constitute a small source of energy, and physics dictates that they will remain so. Meanwhile, there is simply no possibility that the world is undergoing \u2013 or can undergo -a near-term transition to a \u201cnew energy economy\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!state.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Mark-Mills-Compares-Hydrocarbons-and-Renewables.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"Embed of ,Mark-Mills-Compares-Hydrocarbons-and-Renewables.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-8c4caf49-0374-4936-91eb-b9f63f1cb23c\" href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Mark-Mills-Compares-Hydrocarbons-and-Renewables.pdf\">,Mark-Mills-Compares-Hydrocarbons-and-Renewables<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Mark-Mills-Compares-Hydrocarbons-and-Renewables.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button wp-element-button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-8c4caf49-0374-4936-91eb-b9f63f1cb23c\">Herunterladen<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Mills is a Professor of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois. He also is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and one of the leading analysts and commentators on energy and climate issues. A few years ago, he wrote three lengthy articles that addressed the implications and challenges related to the proposed transition of the world economy from its present dominant reliance on hydrocarbons (i.e. oil, natural gas and coal) to so-called \u201cclean energy and renewables\u201d to meet growing energy needs.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":355326,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_wpcom_ai_launchpad_first_post":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691832057,691820814,691832056],"class_list":["post-355320","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-clean-energy-and-renewables","tag-hydrocarbons","tag-mark-mills","fallback-thumbnail"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1uqY","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":356133,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=356133","url_meta":{"origin":355320,"position":0},"title":"$$ Gone with the Wind &amp; Solar","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"12\/20\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Advocates of renewable energy in Ontario say that these energy sources are so low in cost as to be the ideal sources of electricity generation in future. 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