{"id":348279,"date":"2024-10-21T17:31:29","date_gmt":"2024-10-21T15:31:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=348279"},"modified":"2024-10-21T17:31:32","modified_gmt":"2024-10-21T15:31:32","slug":"1000-year-rainfall-claims-are-poppycock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=348279","title":{"rendered":"1000 Year Rainfall Claims Are\u00a0Poppycock"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"348305\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348305\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?fit=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,675\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0,092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348305\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com\/2024\/10\/20\/1000-year-rainfall-claims-are-poppycock\/\">NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By Paul Homewood<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>This is not just BS, but fraudulent BS!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"397\" data-attachment-id=\"348282\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348282\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?fit=1024%2C562&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,562\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?fit=723%2C397&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?resize=723%2C397&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348282\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?resize=300%2C165&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-537.png?resize=768%2C422&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Officials called Hurricane Helene\u2019s deadly rainfall and floods \u201cbiblical\u201d and \u201cgenerational.\u201d But weather forecasters used another term: \u201conce in 1,000 years.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Helene was actually the second once-in-a-millennium storm to strike North Carolina in a matter of days. Less than two weeks before Helene made landfall, an unnamed tropical storm brought 1,000-year rains to communities on the opposite side of the state, inundating homes along the coast.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The idea of two such rainfall events occurring back-to-back might seem confusing. After all, it sounds like they should only occur every 1,000 years. But in reality, it\u2019s all about probability. Understanding the odds \u2014 and how climate change is shifting them \u2014 is more important than ever for communities and infrastructure managers.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Researchers were able to definitively identify these two extremely rare deluges in North Carolina based on rainfall frequency estimates. Using years of precipitation measurements for a specific place, scientists extrapolate what constitutes a hundred-year storm, for example, for that location.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Add in the effects of climate change \u2014 which are not included in current estimates \u2014 and the likelihood of catastrophic rains increase, said Daniel Swain, a climatologist at the University of California Los Angeles. A hotter atmosphere can hold additional moisture, which is driving more frequent and intense downpours.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Take Helene\u2019s rains. While they were a 1,000-year event using statistical estimates based on the historic record, a rapid analysis in the wake of the storm found that rains as severe as Helene\u2019s now occur about once every 70 years due to global warming.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bnnbloomberg.ca\/investing\/2024\/10\/18\/what-it-really-means-when-a-1-in-1000-year-rainstorm-hits\">https:\/\/www.bnnbloomberg.ca\/investing\/2024\/10\/18\/what-it-really-means-when-a-1-in-1000-year-rainstorm-hits<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, North Carolina had two \u201cone-in-1000 years \u201c rainstorms in two weeks? Really?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sorry but this must be called out for the absolute fraud it is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let\u2019s start with Helene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Storm rainfall in the worst affected part of North Carolina was for the most part below 20 inches, although a small handful of high altitude sites recorded slightly higher than that.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"452\" height=\"473\" data-attachment-id=\"348284\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348284\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-539.png?fit=452%2C473&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"452,473\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-539.png?fit=452%2C473&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-539.png?resize=452%2C473&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348284\" style=\"width:668px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-539.png?w=452&amp;ssl=1 452w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-539.png?resize=287%2C300&amp;ssl=1 287w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 452px) 100vw, 452px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240930152623\/https:\/\/www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov\/discussions\/nfdscc4.html\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240930152623\/https:\/\/www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov\/discussions\/nfdscc4.html<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However these total were steadily accumulated over three days, for instance at Asheville:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"512\" data-attachment-id=\"348286\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348286\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?fit=1028%2C728&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1028,728\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?fit=723%2C512&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?resize=723%2C512&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?resize=1024%2C725&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?resize=300%2C212&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?resize=768%2C544&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-540.png?w=1028&amp;ssl=1 1028w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com\/2024\/10\/03\/hurricane-helene-update\/\">https:\/\/notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com\/2024\/10\/03\/hurricane-helene-update\/<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However in 1916, we know that 22 inches fell in exactly the same area in just 24-hours, still a record for the whole of the US.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plainly the Helene floods were not unprecedented.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what about that other storm:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"127\" data-attachment-id=\"348288\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348288\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?fit=1024%2C180&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,180\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?fit=723%2C127&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?resize=723%2C127&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348288\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?resize=300%2C53&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-541.png?resize=768%2C135&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This refers to the small rainstorm which dumped 10 inches of rain on a short length of coast around Southport, NC on 17th September. I covered the story\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com\/2024\/09\/19\/no-bbc-north-carolina-floods-were-not-historic\/\">here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"486\" data-attachment-id=\"348289\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348289\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?fit=942%2C633&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"942,633\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?fit=723%2C486&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?resize=723%2C486&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?w=942&amp;ssl=1 942w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?resize=300%2C202&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-542.png?resize=768%2C516&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"http:\/\/climod2.nrcc.cornell.edu\/\">http:\/\/climod2.nrcc.cornell.edu\/<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But again, ten inches in a day along the coast of the Carolinas is pretty much par for the course, when a tropical storm passes by.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The 24-hour record for South Carolina, for instance, stands at 14.8 inches during Hurricane Floyd in 1999:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"203\" data-attachment-id=\"348291\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348291\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?fit=1024%2C287&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,287\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?fit=723%2C203&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?resize=723%2C203&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?resize=300%2C84&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-543.png?resize=768%2C215&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But North Carolina was even more badly affected by Floyd, according to Wikipedia:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>North Carolina received the brunt of the storm\u2019s destruction. In all, Hurricane Floyd caused 51 fatalities in North Carolina, much of them from freshwater flooding, as well as billions in damage.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The storm surge from the large hurricane amounted to 9\u201310 ft (2.7\u20133.0 m) along the southeastern portion of the state. The hurricane also spawned numerous tornadoes, most of which caused only minor damage. Damage to power lines left over 500,000 customers without electricity at some point during the storm\u2019s passage.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-tcr-2\">[2]<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Just weeks prior to Floyd hitting,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Dennis_(1999)\"><em>Hurricane Dennis<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;brought up to 15 in (380 mm) of rain to southeastern North Carolina. When Hurricane Floyd moved across the state in early September, it produced torrential rainfall, amounting to a maximum of 19.06 in (484 mm) in&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wilmington,_North_Carolina\"><em>Wilmington<\/em><\/a><em>. Though it moved quickly, the extreme rainfall was due to Floyd\u2019s interaction with an approaching cold front across the area.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-tcr-2\">[2]<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Extensive flooding, especially along NC Hwy 91 and the White Oak Loop neighborhood, led to overflowing rivers; nearly every river basin in eastern North Carolina reached 500 year or greater flood levels.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-usgs-flooding-34\">[33]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;Most localized flooding happened overnight; Floyd dropped nearly 17 in (430 mm) of rain during the hours of its passage and many residents were not aware of the flooding until the water came into their homes. The U. S. Navy, National Guard and the Coast Guard performed nearly 1700 fresh water rescues of people trapped on the roofs of their homes due to the rapid rise of the water. By contrast, many of the worst affected areas did not reach peak flood levels for several weeks after the storm, as the water accumulated in rivers and moved downstream (see flood graphic at right).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The passage of&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Irene_(1999)\"><em>Hurricane Irene<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;four weeks later contributed an additional 6 in (150 mm) of rain over the still-saturated area, causing further flooding.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tar_River\"><em>Tar River<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;suffered the worst flooding, exceeding 500-year flood levels along its lower stretches; it crested 24 ft (7.3 m) above flood stage. Flooding began in&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rocky_Mount,_North_Carolina\"><em>Rocky Mount<\/em><\/a><em>, as much as 30% of which was underwater for several days. In&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tarboro\"><em>Tarboro<\/em><\/a><em>, much of the downtown was under several feet of water.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-35\">[34]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;Nearby, the town of&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Princeville,_North_Carolina\"><em>Princeville<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;was largely destroyed when the waters of the Tar poured over the town\u2019s levee, covering the town with over 20 ft (6.1 m) of floodwater for ten days.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-36\">[35]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;Further downstream,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Greenville,_North_Carolina\"><em>Greenville<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;suffered very heavy flooding; damages in&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pitt_County\"><em>Pitt County<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;alone were estimated at $1.6 billion (1999 USD, $2.81 billion 2022 USD).<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-extremes0999-14\">[13]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Washington,_North_Carolina\"><em>Washington<\/em><\/a><em>, where the peak flood level was observed, was likewise devastated. Some residents in Greenville had to swim six feet underwater to reach the front doors of their homes and apartments.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-37\">[36]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;Due to the heavy flooding in downtown Greenville, the&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/East_Carolina_Pirates\"><em>East Carolina Pirates<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;were forced to relocate their football game against #9&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/University_of_Miami\"><em>Miami<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/NC_State_Wolfpack\"><em>N.C. State<\/em><\/a><em>\u2018s&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Carter%E2%80%93Finley_Stadium\"><em>Carter\u2013Finley Stadium<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;in Raleigh, where they beat the Hurricanes 27\u201323.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-38\">[37]<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Neuse_River\"><em>Neuse River<\/em><\/a><em>,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Roanoke_River\"><em>Roanoke River<\/em><\/a><em>,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Waccamaw_River\"><em>Waccamaw River<\/em><\/a><em>, and&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/New_River_(eastern_North_Carolina)\"><em>New River<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;exceeded 500-year flood levels, although damage was lower in these areas (compared to the Tar River) because of lower population densities. Because most of the&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cape_Fear_River\"><em>Cape Fear River<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;basin was west of the peak rainfall areas, the city of&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wilmington,_North_Carolina\"><em>Wilmington<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;was spared the worst flooding despite having the highest localized rainfall; however, the Northeast Cape Fear River (a tributary) did exceed 500-year flood levels. Of the state\u2019s eastern rivers, only the&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lumber_River\"><em>Lumber River<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;escaped catastrophic flooding.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-usgs-flooding-34\">[33]<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Rainfall and strong winds affected many homes across the state, destroying 7,000, leaving 17,000 uninhabitable, and damaging 56,000. Ten thousand people resided in temporary shelters following the storm. The extensive flooding resulted in significant crop damage. As quoted by North Carolina Secretary of Health and Human Services H. David Bruton, &#8220;Nothing since the Civil War has been as destructive to families here. The recovery process will be much longer than the water-going-down process.&#8221;<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-extremes0999-14\">[13]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;Around 31,000 jobs were lost from over 60,000 businesses through the storm, causing nearly $4 billion (1999 USD, $7.02 billion 2022 USD) in lost business revenue.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-ncjobs-39\">[38]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;In much of the affected area, officials urged people to either boil water or buy bottled water during Floyd\u2019s aftermath.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-cnnflooding-40\">[39]<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In contrast to the problems eastern North Carolina experienced, much of the western portion of the state remained under a severe drought.<sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#cite_note-extremes0999-14\">[13<\/a><\/sup><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#Southeastern_United_States\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hurricane_Floyd#Southeastern_United_States<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Floyd dumped 19 inches on Wilmington, and this was not untypical of the wider area.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Note also the reference to Hurricane Dennis, which dropped 15 inches on the same region just weeks earlier. This certainly gives the lie to Bloomberg\u2019s story that two such events are just not supposed to happen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">NOAA published the rainfall totals for the 33 days encompassing both storms. Wilmington, for example, received 28 inches:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"106\" data-attachment-id=\"348292\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348292\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?fit=863%2C126&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"863,126\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?fit=723%2C106&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?resize=723%2C106&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348292\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?w=863&amp;ssl=1 863w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?resize=300%2C44&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-544.png?resize=768%2C112&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"54\" data-attachment-id=\"348293\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348293\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?fit=1044%2C78&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1044,78\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?fit=723%2C54&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?resize=723%2C54&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348293\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?resize=1024%2C77&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?resize=300%2C22&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?resize=768%2C57&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-545.png?w=1044&amp;ssl=1 1044w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"428\" data-attachment-id=\"348295\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348295\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?fit=1044%2C618&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1044,618\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?fit=723%2C428&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?resize=723%2C428&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?resize=1024%2C606&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?resize=300%2C178&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?resize=768%2C455&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-546.png?w=1044&amp;ssl=1 1044w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170109112928\/https:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/oa\/climate\/extremes\/1999\/september\/Sep99rn2.txt\">https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170109112928\/https:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/oa\/climate\/extremes\/1999\/september\/Sep99rn2.txt<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"500\" data-attachment-id=\"348296\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348296\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?fit=867%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"867,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?fit=723%2C500&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?resize=723%2C500&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348296\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?w=867&amp;ssl=1 867w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?resize=300%2C208&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-547.png?resize=768%2C531&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170109113605\/https:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/img\/climate\/extremes\/1999\/september\/ncrain3_pg.gif\">https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170109113605\/https:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/img\/climate\/extremes\/1999\/september\/ncrain3_pg.gif<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Wilmington, 18 inches fell in two days during Floyd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"370\" data-attachment-id=\"348297\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348297\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?fit=1024%2C524&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,524\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?fit=723%2C370&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?resize=723%2C370&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348297\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?resize=300%2C154&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-548.png?resize=768%2C393&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dennis, meantime, had already dropped 19.91 inches, mostly in the last two days of August:<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"418\" height=\"480\" data-attachment-id=\"348300\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348300\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-550.png?fit=418%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"418,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-550.png?fit=418%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-550.png?resize=418%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348300\" style=\"width:532px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-550.png?w=418&amp;ssl=1 418w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-550.png?resize=261%2C300&amp;ssl=1 261w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 418px) 100vw, 418px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov\/tropical\/rain\/dennis1999.html\">https:\/\/www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov\/tropical\/rain\/dennis1999.html<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Floyd and Dennis were both exceptional, but many other tropical storms have dropped as much rain as that seen in Southport last month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So where do they get this \u201cone in a thousand year\u201d nonsense from?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, I realise that it does not literally mean once every thousand years \u2013 it is merely a statement of probability. You can win the lottery, but that does not mean there is no chance of winning it again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But nevertheless, there must be something fundamentally wrong with their models, if they are coming up with such results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Indeed, even the scientists who came up with this crock of nonsense admit that the claims are based on \u201cthe historic record\u201d. Plainly the \u201chistoric record\u201d does not support their claims. They are no more than statistical jiggery-pokery, intended to mislead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"114\" data-attachment-id=\"348301\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348301\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?fit=1024%2C161&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,161\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?fit=723%2C114&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?resize=723%2C114&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348301\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?resize=300%2C47&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-551.png?resize=768%2C121&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If it is based on the historical record, they can only tell us about the situation in the last hundred years or so. In other words, the once every 70 years they mention, which given that these are based on individual locations is probably accurate. It also implies that the US will likely see this sort of event somewhere every year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, based on the historic record, they have no way of knowing how frequent these events were before \u201cglobal warming\u201d. And this is where the models are twisted to provide whatever results the authors are looking for \u2013 that is, a 1000-year event.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The whole objective is to frighten the public into believing that weather is any worse than it has always been:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"173\" data-attachment-id=\"348303\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=348303\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?fit=1024%2C245&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,245\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?fit=723%2C173&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?resize=723%2C173&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-348303\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?resize=300%2C72&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-552.png?resize=768%2C184&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is not just poor science, it is deliberate disinformation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, North Carolina had two \u201cone-in-1000 years \u201c rainstorms in two weeks? Really?<br \/>\nSorry but this must be called out for the absolute fraud it is.<br \/>\nLet\u2019s start with Helene.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":348305,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691830745,691818104,691824121,691831041],"class_list":{"0":"post-348279","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-hurricane-helene","9":"tag-hurricanes","10":"tag-north-carolina","11":"tag-tropical-storm-brough","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/0092524-hurricane-helene-7pm-satellite-noaa.webp?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1sBp","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":408403,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=408403","url_meta":{"origin":348279,"position":0},"title":"False, Santa Fe New Mexican, Climate Change Isn\u2019t Causing Higher Insurance Rates or Dropped Coverage","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"15\/10\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"A recent article posted at the\u00a0Santa Fe New Mexican\u00a0(SFNM), \u201cClimate change and the coming real estate calamity,\u201d claims that climate change is causing an increase in extreme and damaging weather, which then causes homes to be uninsurable. This is false. There has been no increase in extreme weather alongside the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Climate change\"","block_context":{"text":"Climate change","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=climate-change"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0AQOFNtUzu2Fh-WhHAxiTpJOUbDdXU_ywvhIs0XWTEvvo2UXhHzbU26P3zBkoPGWJGTX3F6RjxsrdGIBpKMcLj2ofolyGj7ttP3OcxLpldAz7v6Y2aj6H4hii6AyQlkwd-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C880&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0AQOFNtUzu2Fh-WhHAxiTpJOUbDdXU_ywvhIs0XWTEvvo2UXhHzbU26P3zBkoPGWJGTX3F6RjxsrdGIBpKMcLj2ofolyGj7ttP3OcxLpldAz7v6Y2aj6H4hii6AyQlkwd-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C880&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0AQOFNtUzu2Fh-WhHAxiTpJOUbDdXU_ywvhIs0XWTEvvo2UXhHzbU26P3zBkoPGWJGTX3F6RjxsrdGIBpKMcLj2ofolyGj7ttP3OcxLpldAz7v6Y2aj6H4hii6AyQlkwd-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C880&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0AQOFNtUzu2Fh-WhHAxiTpJOUbDdXU_ywvhIs0XWTEvvo2UXhHzbU26P3zBkoPGWJGTX3F6RjxsrdGIBpKMcLj2ofolyGj7ttP3OcxLpldAz7v6Y2aj6H4hii6AyQlkwd-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C880&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0AQOFNtUzu2Fh-WhHAxiTpJOUbDdXU_ywvhIs0XWTEvvo2UXhHzbU26P3zBkoPGWJGTX3F6RjxsrdGIBpKMcLj2ofolyGj7ttP3OcxLpldAz7v6Y2aj6H4hii6AyQlkwd-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C880&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":345655,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=345655","url_meta":{"origin":348279,"position":1},"title":"Hurricane Helene Update","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"06\/10\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"But that has not stopped the usual suspects blaming the floods on climate change. 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