{"id":347510,"date":"2024-10-19T10:44:55","date_gmt":"2024-10-19T08:44:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=347510"},"modified":"2024-10-19T10:44:57","modified_gmt":"2024-10-19T08:44:57","slug":"climate-anxiety-discussion-raises-alarmists-ire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=347510","title":{"rendered":"Climate Anxiety Discussion Raises Alarmists\u2019 Ire"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"482\" data-attachment-id=\"347518\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=347518\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?fit=1750%2C1166&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1750,1166\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0,21climate-anxiety-superJumbo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?fit=723%2C482&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=723%2C482&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-347518\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=1024%2C682&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=1536%2C1023&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?resize=1200%2C800&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?w=1750&amp;ssl=1 1750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/021climate-anxiety-superJumbo.webp?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/climate-anxiety\/climate-anxiety-discussion-raises-alarmists-ire\/\">Master Resource<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>By Robert Bradley Jr.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cCould both sides of the climate debate just agree that it is time for resiliency before the fact and adaptation after the fact in the face of weather extremes, whatever the cause? Alex Epstein, meet Michael Mann. Michael Man, meet Alex Epstein.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On LinkedIn, I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/rob-bradley-775ab08_we-could-stop-scaring-people-witless-with-activity-7127695956355022848-9FVg?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop\">reposted<\/a>&nbsp;Bjorn Lomborg\u2019s \u201cWe could stop scaring people witless with climate exaggeration,\u201d and added the comment:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is there any good reason for climate exaggeration\u2013particularly to the mentally weak prone to \u2018climate anxiety\u2019? Is this a good thing even to the climate activists?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One Benjamin Silverstone&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7127695956355022848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127725228452929536%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127725228452929536%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29\">responded<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The mentally weak prone to \u201cclimate anxiety\u201d? That is the most insulting, bigoted thing I have ever heard. Check yourself Mr Bradley, look long and hard and never use the term mentally weak try and support your argument.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7127695956355022848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127725228452929536%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127729060683665408%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127725228452929536%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127729060683665408%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29\">replied<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exaggeration and failed doomist predictions mark the climate debate. Here is&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instituteforenergyresearch.org\/climate-change\/climate-alarmism-turns-35\/\">my example from 1988<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are hundreds more examples since 1988. And it is the children who are most at risk from climate doom propaganda. They need to hear the optimistic side of CO2\/climate\u2013that is only fair! Mentally weak adults scared of the climate future should also receive&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.aier.org\/article\/climate-co2-optimism\/\">both sides of the debate<\/a>.<br><br>Isn\u2019t this fair? This should be in the Code of Ethics for psychologists dealing with climate anxiety issues.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/henriknordborg\/\">Henrick Nordborg<\/a>, program director, Renewable Energy and Environment Technology at OST in Switzerland,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7127695956355022848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127696588306571266%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127696588306571266%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29\">stated<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I am also in favor of banning all fire alarms and fire exits. They only make people nervous.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7127695956355022848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127696588306571266%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127729335100211200%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127696588306571266%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127729335100211200%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29\">responded<\/a>: \u201cTotally false analogy. That\u2019s coercion.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Colby Tiffee (33,800 followers)&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7127695956355022848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7127695956355022848%2C7127788144346755072%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287127788144346755072%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7127695956355022848%29\">added<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was recently harassed in my DMs by a self-proclaimed \u201cClimate Psychologist\u201d. She said the damage that people like me and others in the fossil fuel industry have done to the environment and generations of people is incalculable.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Doomism Reconsidered<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Emotions run high in the climate debate. But the purveyors of doom-and-gloom are stuck in emotional quicksand. They can continue in their woe-is-me or constructively work toward human betterment in the face of uncertainty and change. This is where fossil fuels turn into the solution, not the problem. As Alex Epstein has noted (<em>The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels<\/em>, pp. 126\u2013127):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe popular climate discussion \u2026 looks at man as a destructive force for climate livability \u2026 because we use fossil fuels. In fact, the truth is the exact opposite; we don\u2019t take a safe climate and make it dangerous; we take a dangerous climate and make it safe. High-energy civilization, not climate, is the driver of climate livability.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And as alarmist Michael Mann himself&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.aps.org\/publications\/apsnews\/202310\/backpage.cfm\">stated<\/a>&nbsp;in a weak moment:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026 hot takes, hyperbole, and polarizing commentary best generate clicks, shares, and retweets. I often encounter, especially on social media, individuals who are convinced that the latest extreme weather event is confirmation that the climate crisis is far worse than we thought\u2026. increasingly today we see it with climate doomists\u2026. This is not true, or at best partly true.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Could both sides of the debate just agree that it is time for resiliency before the fact and adaptation after the fact in the face of weather extremes, whatever the cause? David Shukman&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/adaptation\/resilience-adaptation-vs-mitigation\/\">seems to think so<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Alex Epstein, meet Michael Mann. Michael Man, meet Alex Epstein. The mitigation strategy has not and is not working, while engendering unintended consequences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cCould both sides of the climate debate just agree that it is time for resiliency before the fact and adaptation after the fact in the face of weather extremes, whatever the cause? Alex Epstein, meet Michael Mann. 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