{"id":345185,"date":"2024-10-03T18:37:50","date_gmt":"2024-10-03T16:37:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=345185"},"modified":"2024-10-03T18:37:52","modified_gmt":"2024-10-03T16:37:52","slug":"mark-jacobsons-big-lemon-gumdrops","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=345185","title":{"rendered":"Mark Jacobson\u2019s Big Lemon\u00a0Gumdrops"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From Climate Scepticism <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By\u00a0Mike Dombroski<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s been quite awhile since I\u2019ve posted about one of my favorite climate\/energy subjects \u2014 Stanford professor Mark Z. Jacobson. Back when he dropped his lawsuit against Chris Clack and a bunch of other authors on a paper critiquing his work, I wrote a blog post<\/a> profiling his legalistic mindset and concluding that he would be soldiering on. Well, he\u2019s certainly been soldiering on and even putting his legalistic mindset to use. He testified in the Held v Montana<\/a> climate lawsuit case which ruled that a bunch of Montana school children have a right to a safe and stable climate. You can read dueling expert witness PDFs between him<\/a> and Judith Curry<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While Jacobson\u2019s Clack lawsuit has set him back a bit, he still has lots of acolytes who quote his work, kind of like Michael Mann, but not to the same ridiculous extent. BTW Jacobson and Mann appear to be kindred spirits who quote and retweet each other. Back in 2021 Jacobson did a paper with Robert Howarth (Manhattan Contrarian<\/em> profile<\/a>) about blue hydrogen that got a lot of attention from people such as the Just Have a Think guy<\/a>. Lately, if you manage to view his Twitter\/X feed, you\u2019ll see a lot of graphs that look like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The big yellow areas that look like gumdrops are California\u2019s electricity demand that is supplied by solar. The left graph is percentages contained under a square red demand box. On the left side of both gumdrops are what look like little black dirt specs of a battery portion which is what they look like on most such graphs if they show up at all. But California is a rich state with determined green policies, so on the right side of the gumdrops they have grown into what might be called dust bunnies. The colored bands that blanket the gumdrops are hydro, wind and other renewable energy sources. All the fossil, nuclear and imported electricity is somehow mixed into the spacious upper white corners. I suppose with enough time, money and hieght added to the gumdrops, those dust bunnies can grow to cover that white space with, I dunno, a big moldy compost pile. All kidding aside, there is a lot of progress being made adding batteries to the grid which is probably a good thing as long as you\u2019re not living next to a bank of them that catches fire. Apparently, one of them recently had a fire that lasted nearly two weeks<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These gumdrop graphs have been showing up at places such as the nearly dormant Rabett Run<\/em> in this post<\/a> by Brian Schmidt. Brian is a very civic minded Californian and some time ago he and I were contemplating making a bet over what proportion of California\u2019s electricity would be generated by gas at some predetermined point in the future. Twitter\/X advanced search doesn\u2019t seem to go back that far and I don\u2019t recall the exact details. I\u2019m not a rich Californian so I chickened out. I offered to bet a case of his favorite craft beer, but he insisted on a more substantial sum. The bar graph on the bottom shows a significant drop in California\u2019s gas share from 222.1 GWH\/D in 2023 to 161.3 GWH\/D in 2924 (March 7 to September 28) and I very likely would have lost. It\u2019s not clear how much impact batteries will have on the grid. There will certainly be advances. Right now China is making EVs with sodium ion batteries that don\u2019t offer very good energy per weight but may offer a significant cost advantage for the grid. Batteries, of course, still have to be charged and I would think that nuclear energy would be a more reliable and constant source than wind or solar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In other Jacobson news, he recently wrote a letter to the editors of the Wall Street Journal<\/em> claiming that states with high proportions of renewable electricity have lower rates. Francis Menton of the Manhattan Contrarian<\/em> noticed it and wrote a post<\/a> on it. He came up with quite different numbers than Jacobson. As the main example, Jacobson found South Dakota getting 95% of its electricity from renewables and having the 9th lowest rates. Menton found it getting 77% and having the 22cnd lowest rate. He found the \u201cpublicly-available data for South Dakota are quite inconsistent and contradictory, but however you look at it they don\u2019t come close to backing up Jacobson\u2019s claim.\u201d In a comment, I suggested that Jacobson might be counting only residential and not industrial users.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

There\u2019s one more thing I have to get in. Jacobson made a tweet<\/a> where he said Florida should think twice about banning offshore wind. He quotes one of his studies<\/a> about \u201ctaming hurricanes with arrays of offshore wind turbines\u201d. It\u2019s from 2014 and I\u2019ve taken a brief look at it before and been suspicious of it. I just looked it over again and found the money shot! He has a table where he has various scenarios for several hurricanes where he blankets the Gulf of Mexico with about half a million 7 and a half MW offshore wind turbines:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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It\u2019s been quite awhile since I\u2019ve posted about one of my favorite climate\/energy subjects \u2014 Stanford professor Mark Z. Jacobson. Back when he dropped his lawsuit against Chris Clack and a bunch of other authors on a paper critiquing his work, I wrote a blog post profiling his legalistic mindset and concluding that he would be soldiering on. 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