{"id":345066,"date":"2024-10-03T10:23:49","date_gmt":"2024-10-03T08:23:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=345066"},"modified":"2024-10-03T10:23:52","modified_gmt":"2024-10-03T08:23:52","slug":"no-media-hurricane-helene-was-not-worsened-by-climate-change","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=345066","title":{"rendered":"No, Media. Hurricane Helene was not Worsened by Climate Change"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"345086\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345086\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?fit=1998%2C1125&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1998,1125\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" 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https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?resize=1536%2C865&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?resize=1200%2C676&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?w=1998&amp;ssl=1 1998w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2024\/10\/no-media-hurricane-helene-was-not-worsened-by-climate-change\/\">ClimateRealism<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By <a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/author\/awatts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Anthony Watts<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"663\" data-attachment-id=\"345069\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345069\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-100.png?fit=696%2C663&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"696,663\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-100.png?fit=696%2C663&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-100.png?resize=696%2C663&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345069\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-100.png?w=696&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-100.png?resize=300%2C286&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hurricane Helene&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nesdis.noaa.gov\/news\/hurricane-helene-makes-landfall-florida\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">made landfall on Friday Sept 27<sup>th<\/sup>&nbsp;in Florida<\/a>&nbsp;as a Category 4 storm and then made its way inland, dumping large amounts of rain followed by flooding.&nbsp; Predictably, many media outlets immediately rushed to blame climate change for this particular storm and its damage. These claims are false. Data shows there is no climate signal over the past 50 years of hurricane activity either worsening intensity or creating more frequent hurricanes. Additionally, historical records show that flooding such as was seen from this storm has happened in the same areas before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2024\/10\/cbs-gets-the-facts-wrong-about-hurricane-helene-and-hurricane-trends\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">second time<\/a>&nbsp;this week&nbsp;<em>Climate Realism<\/em>&nbsp;is covering this particular storm, but the claims from the media are extensive and worth debunking more than once. Here\u2019s a sampling of some of the headlines. The Hill wrote, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/thehill.com\/policy\/energy-environment\/4904495-climcate-change-hurricanes-intensifying-how\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How climate change is intensifying storms like Hurricane Helene.\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;Yahoo news claimed, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/helene-shows-that-hurricanes-in-the-age-of-climate-change-dont-wreck-just-coastlines-210015013.html?guccounter=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Helene shows that hurricanes in the age of climate change don\u2019t wreck just coastlines<\/a>,\u201d while&nbsp;<em>The Guardian<\/em>&nbsp;opined, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2024\/oct\/01\/hurricane-helene-asheville-climate-change-nowhere-safe\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u2018Nowhere is safe\u2019: shattered Asheville shows stunning reach of climate crisis<\/a>\u201c.&nbsp;<em>The Associated Press<\/em>&nbsp;(AP) chimed in with, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/rainfall-helene-carolina-tennessee-georgia-climate-change-flood-fcba634e14a0ffa1a8e1fa85d7e2b390\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Helene and other storms dumped a whopping 40 trillion gallons of rain on the South.<\/a>\u201d Even the Mayor of Tampa, Fl, Jane Castor, jumped on the climate alarm bandwagon by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/weather\/live-news\/hurricane-helene-damage-north-carolina-10-01-24\/index.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI%20don't%20know%20that,we%20were%20hit%20by%20Helene.%E2%80%9D\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">declaring in a CNN interview<\/a>, \u201cI don\u2019t know that there\u2019s anyone that anyone can deny the effects of climate change on the sheer power of the storms we\u2019re seeing now.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All of these claims ignore actual data and historical records. They also ignore the unique meteorological (not climatological) circumstances that created the potential for more rainfall and flooding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First it needs to be said that weather events are not climate events.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-weather-vs-climate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Weather operates on vastly different timescales than climate does.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Second, the claims of climate change worsening storms such as Helene just don\u2019t hold up when actual data is examined. For example, meteorologist Ryan Maue, Ph.D, who is quoted in the AP story noted above maintains a running plot of \u201cAccumulated Cyclone Energy\u201d which tracks how much power is actually in hurricanes on a month-by-month basis, seen in the figure 1 below, updated through 2024.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"396\" data-attachment-id=\"345071\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345071\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-101.png?fit=696%2C396&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"696,396\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-101.png?fit=696%2C396&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-101.png?resize=696%2C396&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345071\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-101.png?w=696&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-101.png?resize=300%2C171&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Figure1: Last 50-years+ of Global and Northern Hemisphere Accumulated Cyclone Energy: 24 month running sums. Note that the year indicated represents the value of ACE through the previous 24-months for the Northern Hemisphere (bottom line\/gray boxes) and the entire global (top line\/blue boxes). The area in between represents the Southern Hemisphere total ACE.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He writes on his&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climatlas.com\/tropical\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">research page<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tropical cyclone accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) has exhibited strikingly large global interannual variability during the past 40-years. In the pentad since 2006, Northern Hemisphere and global tropical cyclone ACE has decreased dramatically to the lowest levels since the late 1970s. Additionally, the frequency of tropical cyclones has reached a historical low.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So much for the Mayor of Tampa\u2019s claim that \u201cI don\u2019t know that there\u2019s anyone that anyone can deny the effects of climate change on the sheer power of the storms we\u2019re seeing now.\u201d&nbsp;<em>The actual data denies your claim.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If climate change were in fact making such storms as Helene more powerful, it would show up in the ACE plot, but it doesn\u2019t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Further, meteorological science says there is no linkage between climate change and hurricane. A&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gfdl.noaa.gov\/global-warming-and-hurricanes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">page on the topic maintained by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory<\/a>&nbsp;clearly states there no strong evidence for such claims:<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"412\" data-attachment-id=\"345073\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345073\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-103.png?fit=624%2C412&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"624,412\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-103.png?fit=624%2C412&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-103.png?resize=624%2C412&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345073\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-103.png?w=624&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-103.png?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, climate science itself says there is no connection between climate change and hurricane strength or frequency. In Table 12.12<strong>\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong>on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/Page-90_-from-IPCC_AR6_WGI_Chapter12.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Page 90<\/a>\u00a0\u2013 Chapter 12 of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Sixth Assessment Report. Emergence of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/report\/ar6\/wg1\/chapter\/chapter-12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Climate Impact Drivers<\/a>\u00a0(CIDs) in time periods, shows no indication of a connection in the present, nor in the future. The color in the table corresponds to the confidence of the region with the highest confidence: white colors indicate where evidence of a climate change signal is lacking or the signal is not present, leading to overall low confidence of an emerging signal. Note the colors for Tropical Cyclones in the table screencap below:<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"309\" data-attachment-id=\"345075\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345075\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-104.png?fit=624%2C309&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"624,309\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-104.png?fit=624%2C309&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-104.png?resize=624%2C309&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345075\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-104.png?w=624&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-104.png?resize=300%2C149&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As mentioned in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-hurricanes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Climate at a Glance: Hurricanes<\/a>, the IPCC\u2019s AR6 WG1 report, released in August 2021, the IPCC noted, \u201cIdentifying past trends in TC [tropical storm] metrics remains a challenge,\u201d a statement that essentially admits scientists have yet to identify a solid measurable upward trend in the data.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The media and uninformed politicians such as Tampa\u2019s Mayor Castor seem to conveniently forget the recent past. The United States recently went&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnsnews.com\/news\/article\/barbarahollingsworth\/us-hits-record-129-months-last-major-hurricane-strike\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">more than a decade (2005 through 2017) without a major hurricane<\/a>\u2014a hurricane measuring Category 3 or higher\u2014making landfall. That is the longest such period in recorded United States history. If climate change was worsening hurricanes, such a drought of hurricanes wouldn\u2019t have been possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Clearly, despite the hyped-up media claims, data, science, and history all show their claims of climate change affecting hurricanes to be completely untrue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But what about the claims that Helene\u2019s huge rainfall and subsequent flooding was caused by climate change? Meteorologist Chris Martz gave a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ChrisMartzWX\/status\/1840225102023041285\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">complete analysis of the weather event on Twitter<\/a>. Some excerpts:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I will take a moment to explain the meteorology behind the floods in North Carolina [and Tennessee]. The precipitation analysis for the last two-days [from 12z today] reveals that over a foot of rain has fallen in the Appalachians. This amount of rain in such a short amount of time, regardless of land topography, results in widespread [and often devastating] inundation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reason you see 14-18 inches of rain [purple \/ pink contours in the image below] along the eastern slope of the Blue Ridge [mountains] is because of strong mountain-enhanced orographic lift. [in the second figure below] As moist parcels of air in the bands of Helene rotated counterclockwise through the region, they were then dynamically lifted to supersaturation on sloped terrain causing excess vapor to condense and precipitate out. On the leeward side in Tennessee, there was a bit of a rain shadow effect due to downslope flow, so rainfall totals were lower. This is what happens on the Hawaiian Islands on just about a daily basis.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"468\" data-attachment-id=\"345077\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345077\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?fit=624%2C468&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"624,468\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?fit=624%2C468&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?resize=624%2C468&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345077\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?w=624&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?resize=600%2C450&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?resize=400%2C300&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-106.png?resize=200%2C150&amp;ssl=1 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"409\" data-attachment-id=\"345079\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345079\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-108.png?fit=624%2C409&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"624,409\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-108.png?fit=624%2C409&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-108.png?resize=624%2C409&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345079\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-108.png?w=624&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-108.png?resize=300%2C197&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, a combination of the storm and local terrain made rainfall heavier in the mountains near Asheville, NC like it always does. Climate had nothing to do with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, history shows us this sort of heavy rain resulting in flooding around Asheville North Carolina has happened before. Here are some photos of a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newspapers.com\/image\/650742683\/?match=1&amp;terms=Asheville%20flood%20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">newspaper story and a photo of Asheville, NC from July 17<sup>th<\/sup>, 1916<\/a>&nbsp;when a major flooding event occurred:<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"696\" height=\"966\" data-attachment-id=\"345082\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345082\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-110.png?fit=696%2C966&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"696,966\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-110.png?fit=696%2C966&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-110.png?resize=696%2C966&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345082\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-110.png?w=696&amp;ssl=1 696w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-110.png?resize=216%2C300&amp;ssl=1 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"329\" data-attachment-id=\"345084\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=345084\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-112.png?fit=624%2C329&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"624,329\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-112.png?fit=624%2C329&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-112.png?resize=624%2C329&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-345084\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-112.png?w=624&amp;ssl=1 624w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/image-112.png?resize=300%2C158&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The challenge for the media and politicians is to explain how such a catastrophic flooding event occurred in Asheville before climate change ever became an issue, and the atmospheric content of carbon dioxide (said to increase climate change and storms supposedly driven by it) was far lower than today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They can\u2019t. Instead, they would prefer to stick with a popular narrative claiming a \u201cclimate crisis\u201d caused this storm and the subsequent damage rather than pay attention to data, science, and history which says the complete opposite. This is&nbsp;<em>wildly wrong,<\/em>&nbsp;and beyond simple ignorance, it is journalistic and political malfeasance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hurricane Helene\u00a0made landfall on Friday Sept 27th\u00a0in Florida\u00a0as a Category 4 storm and then made its way inland, dumping large amounts of rain followed by flooding.\u00a0 Predictably, many media outlets immediately rushed to blame climate change for this particular storm and its damage. These claims are false. Data shows there is no climate signal over the past 50 years of hurricane activity either worsening intensity or creating more frequent hurricanes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":345086,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691830774,691818056,691830745],"class_list":{"0":"post-345066","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-category-4-storm","9":"tag-climate-change","10":"tag-hurricane-helene","12":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/075392571007-11-am-hurricane-helene-sat-sept-26-2024.webp?fit=1998%2C1125&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1rLA","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":408403,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=408403","url_meta":{"origin":345066,"position":0},"title":"False, Santa Fe New Mexican, Climate Change Isn\u2019t Causing Higher Insurance Rates or Dropped Coverage","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"10\/15\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"A recent article posted at the\u00a0Santa Fe New Mexican\u00a0(SFNM), \u201cClimate change and the coming real estate calamity,\u201d claims that climate change is causing an increase in extreme and damaging weather, which then causes homes to be uninsurable. 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