{"id":343810,"date":"2024-09-20T13:06:40","date_gmt":"2024-09-20T11:06:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343810"},"modified":"2024-09-20T13:06:43","modified_gmt":"2024-09-20T11:06:43","slug":"energy-notes-from-the-edge-ev-industry-on-limp-home-mode-greenpeaces-firehose-used-against-them-and-theyre-not-happy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343810","title":{"rendered":"Energy notes from the edge: EV industry on limp-home mode; Greenpeace\u2019s firehose used against them and they\u2019re not happy"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From BOE Report<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Terry Etam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Summer was pretty quiet, thankfully, but time for a jolt to get reengaged. There\u2019s no better way than getting yelled at, so today let\u2019s talk about a surefire recipe \u2013 Electric Vehicles. Those that love EVs really love \u2018em, and to speak ill of them in front of the fans is akin to asking questions about the size of their children\u2019s ears.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

EVs have an outsized role in the current cultural and economic landscape, in an odd way. They are seen as the best hope to turn the tide of general consumer emissions. Governments threw their full weight behind them to an astonishing degree, legislating them into projected dominance at an unprecedented (and as it turns out, insane) pace. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What makes EVs such a flashpoint is that they intersect with a bunch of stuff that people hold dear. For some, EV ownership feels like a major personal contribution to the global emissions problem, if owning one entails a significant personal commitment. For many, EVs make total sense if only running around town, or if wealthy enough to keep one in the garage amongst the Astons and Ferraris so as to be well-positioned to make an environmental statement if required. Some love them for their simplicity, with few moving parts and lower maintenance requirements (lower, but not zero). Still others love them because they can fuel up at home, at night. And then there is the cohort that feels their rage against oil companies sated cathartically every time they drive past a gas station, those that believe hydrocarbons bring nothing but death, irrespective of the fact that to that point in their life they\u2019ve brought them everything within their purview, including all the things that keep them alive. Have pity on those people, the neutron-level boxing matches going on between their ears are not to be wished on anyone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On the flip side of the equation, and what brings it to the news, is the public\u2019s general feeling of \u201cmeh\u201d towards them, the 80 percent that constitutes the non-extreme middle. In sane times, that is not a problem; major change happens gradually for such big ticket items, and most get a sense that certain segments of the economy work extremely well as EVs \u2013 delivery fleet vehicles, forklifts, urban taxis, etc. Many would drift toward EVs as battery technology improves, as range increases, as price falls. But such a shift would be a multi-generational thing, particularly with the infrastructure changes required.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Most consumers can see that that Total And Rapid EV Domination is not a particularly wise vision, even if governments have declared that that must happen within their dog\u2019s lifespan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Consumers do know a good idea when they see one, and we can see that by the explosion in popularity of hybrid vehicles \u2013 those with internal combustion engines augmented by modest battery packs and electric motors that give a certain emissions-free range before switching to gasoline power. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There\u2019s a reason for this growing popularity \u2013 it makes sense on many levels. A hybrid removes some of the major reasons people are reluctant to go full-battery EV (BEV) \u2013 range anxiety, cold weather performance, etc. \u2013 and, as Toyota has wisely pointed out, hybrids are actually better for the environment in general than mass consumer adoption of EVs. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

How can that be, you might wonder. Here is Toyota\u2019s calculation, in what they call the 1:6:90 rule. An excellent write up can be found here<\/a>, and the gist of it is: Because of immense challenges in finding, developing, mining, and processing critical metals and minerals (hundreds of new mines required globally, with each new mine having weaker grades than before, and with many jurisdictions becoming more hostile towards new mines), it makes more sense to utilize a given BEV\u2019s minerals requirements to construct 90 hybrids instead. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Because many trips are very short, a hybrid can run on electric power for most of them, which is how the spreading-out of these minerals to many vehicles makes emissions reduction sense. Toyota calculates that if the metals\/minerals used to construct a single EV were instead used to  build 90 hybrids, the overall carbon reduction from those hybrids over their lifetimes would be 37 times that of a single EV (and with that sentence, I don my helmet for the incoming shouts of \u201cFossil Fuel Shill\u201d \u2013 the aforementioned yelling).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Customers are clamouring to acquire hybrids. According to a Car Dealership Guy article<\/a> (excellent auto news site, from a dealer perspective), in August, 48 percent of Toyota sales were hybrids, Hyundai had an 81 percent increase in hybrids (albeit from a relatively smaller number than Toyota), and Ford saw hybrid sales increase by 50 percent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Volvo, a company that had pledged to be completely EV by 2030 and thereby banishing the smell of gasoline forevermore from customers\u2019 nostrils, recently backed down from that pledge to announced hybrids would remain part of the equation indefinitely. \u201cEverybody made a lot of assumptions two, three, four, five years ago, and that\u2019s changed,\u201d said<\/a> Volvo\u2019s CEO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then there is the Chinese onslaught of affordable, high-quality EVs that somehow policy planners didn\u2019t see coming. Western countries announced bans on ICE in favour of full-EV by the next decade, and lo and behold, China controls most elements of an EV\u2019s composition, and they took full advantage of that supply chain dominance (plus massive government support) to undercut virtually every western EV maker. Hey, you can\u2019t do that, said US, Canadian, and EU governments, slapping huge tariffs on Chinese made EVs because well, we want to save the environment but not that badly (ultra cheap EVs are one of the few catalysts that would accelerate wide spread and rapid EV adoption among the masses). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Not sure where this goes next. Consumers have spoken, auto makers are responding, and the odd man out are governments still paralyzed in 2019 when euphoric and nonsensical \u201cenvironmental\u201d policy danced on the supposed grave of last century\u2019s fuel. How they backpedal out of this is anyone\u2019s guess, although there are signs, such as this headline<\/a>: \u201cItaly leads revolt against Europe\u2019s electrical vehicle transition\u201d. If memory serves from Italian traffic, they seem fine with virtually any sort of vehicular madness, so a automotive revolt in that land is a pretty big deal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As with so, so many aspects of an energy transition, if the whole process had not been hijacked by zealots, we would be farther down the road, we would have consumers on side, we would have entire industries functioning properly instead of the fiascos we in for example the auto industry, and we most likely would have far less emissions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Greenpeace USA on the ropes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the big scheme of things, seeing something that has the words \u201cgreen\u201d and \u201cpeace\u201d in the name fail would be disheartening; no sane person is against either the environment or peace. But put those two words together and you have something else entirely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the US, Greenpeace is for once holding the crappy end of the stick that they are used to jabbing at everything they disagree with. US energy pipeline giant Energy Transfer is seeking $300 million in damages for Greenpeace\u2019s role in delaying the Dakota Access Pipeline. An ET victory would and should send shockwaves through the massively well financed protest industry that so far employs every tactic in the book to achieve victory (and by \u2018victory\u2019 we generally means \u2018obstruction\u2019 or \u2018vengeance\u2019 as opposed to any sort of constructive advancement). The big ENGOs spend hundreds of millions on staff and lawyers who literally have nothing to do other than bend society to their will without the bothersome hassle of going through the democratic process. Robert Bryce\u2019s excellent Substack column<\/a> keeps track of the staggering sums that US ENGOs churn through; Greenpeace US is a pipsqueak ($33 million annual engorgement) compared to locust-lawyer Natural Resources Defense Council\u2019s staggering $548 million. With all that money, these groups construct nothing<\/em>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is a surprise there haven\u2019t been more of these lawsuits filed by thwarted companies and hydrocarbon producers dragged into court for the sin of providing the fuel that keeps us all alive. It\u2019s really not a hard argument to make; the world as we know it will collapse without hydrocarbon production, so shouldn\u2019t thwarting that production on sometimes very flimsy grounds count for something? Shouldn\u2019t blocking fuel from consumers that desperately need it (countless pipeline battles) count for something?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Greenpeace\u2019s defence is pretty funny; suddenly they are insignificant, claiming to have had only a supporting role in the protests, and that the lawsuit is, the funniest part, an \u201cattack on free speech.\u201d Chaining one\u2019s self (or worse, sending some naive acolyte to chain their selves) to a bulldozer on a construction site is, apparently, \u2018free speech\u2019, as is law fare and endless slanderous comments about the people and businesses that bring them the fuel that keeps their unhappy lives going.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe the resurrected body, of which you can be certain will appear if this one is bankrupted, should start off with a bit of soul searching. Maybe peace means everyone working together for a common goal, not dramatizing a villain as the means of motivating the troops. Maybe \u2018green\u2019 should mean concern for habitat, concern for air pollution, concern for more intelligent use of resources, concern for the most logical global approach to progress, as opposed to a singular war against the bedrock of our society that it is glaringly obvious we cannot and will not live without. 29dk2902lhttps:\/\/boereport.com\/29dk2902l.html<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What the world desperately needs \u2013 energy clarity. And a few laughs. Pick up The End of Fossil Fuel Insanity,  a<\/em>vailable at <\/em>Amazon.ca<\/a>, <\/em>Indigo.ca<\/a>, or <\/em>Amazon.com.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n

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