{"id":343804,"date":"2024-09-20T12:14:16","date_gmt":"2024-09-20T10:14:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343804"},"modified":"2024-09-20T12:14:18","modified_gmt":"2024-09-20T10:14:18","slug":"hotels-in-china-start-to-ban-evs-and-electric-scooters-from-underground-parking-lots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343804","title":{"rendered":"Hotels in China start to ban EVs and electric scooters from underground parking lots"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From JoNova <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Jo Nova<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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Lest we forget, the\u00a0Luton airport carpark fire<\/a>\u00a0October 2023.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n


We know it\u2019s coming. One day, sometime there will be a skyscraper inferno started by an EV or a scooter and made so much worse because there were other EV\u2019s in the basement carpark.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the moment companies are fined $100,000 in Australia for failing to include high fire danger warning labels on kids beach towels<\/a>, but it\u2019s no problem if children sleep in a tower above a carpark full of EVs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But after a spate of fires in China, Hotels there are starting to ask customers with EVs to park in open areas outside the building.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

China bans electric vehicles from underground carparks<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

by Jamie Seidel, News.com<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2026 Chinese hotels and property managers have begun to ban all electric vehicles<\/a> \u2013 scooters, e-bikes, family cars or commercial vans \u2013 from their undercroft car parks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cHotels and other buildings in Hangzhou, Ningbo, Xiaoshan and other places in Zhejiang have banned electric vehicles from entering underground garages for safety reasons, sparking heated discussions,\u201d Chinese online dissident \u201cMr Li is not your teacher\u201d reported in a post to X<\/a> (which is banned in China) in September.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Local news reports that property owners were spurred into action after 11 intense battery fires in Zhejiang\u2019s capital, Hangzhou, in May of this year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cBased on the characteristics of electric vehicle fires and our hotel\u2019s firefighting capabilities, we think it safer not to allow them into the underground garage<\/a>,\u201d RFA quotes one five-star hotel owner as stating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cA lot of basement parking lots are designed with low ceilings, meaning that fire trucks can\u2019t get inside.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some will point to studies that claim gas powered cars catch fire 20 or 30 times as often, but old cars are riskier and these studies don\u2019t appear to control for age. (Can anyone find one that does?) And if one EV sets fire to 1,200 cars, hypothetically, say, at an airport terminal,<\/a> we have to wonder whether the incident adds more \u201cfire deaths\u201d to the petrol car scorecard rather than the EV tally at the Department of Motor Vehicles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Remember, we\u2019re forcing EVs on people to save the world in a hundred years, but no one has the time to conduct a proper age-standardized study on the risks of storing EV\u2019s in home garages or under apartment blocks now<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In related news, two weeks ago BMW recalled 140,000 Mini Coopers due to a battery fire threat:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

BMW Recalls 140,000 Electric Mini Coopers Due to Battery Fire Threat<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Wall Street Journal,<\/em> Sept 3, 2024<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The German carmaker said the recall of electric Mini Cooper SEs came after tests that revealed the potential for leaks from the battery housing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe high-voltage battery could also switch off and the vehicle could roll out slowly, even while driving,\u201d BMW said. \u201cA vehicle fire, even when the vehicle is parked, cannot be ruled out.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Only 1% of those Minis were in Australia, but that\u2019s still 1,400 cars.<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n
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Another Made-in-China EV suddenly caught fire and exploded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This happened in Xinyue International Community, Section 2, Xihua Road, Shunqing District, Nanchong City, Sichuan Province, CCP China, on Aug. 3, 2024. pic.twitter.com\/zta3Aoryn0<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014 Inconvenient Truths by Jennifer Zeng (@jenniferzeng97) August 3, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

h\/t Graeme#4, OldOzzie, Ronin, Skeptikal, NotalotofPeopleknowthat<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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We know it\u2019s coming. One day, sometime there will be a skyscraper inferno started by an EV or a scooter and made so much worse because there were other EV\u2019s in the basement carpark.<\/p>\n

At the moment companies are fined $100,000 in Australia for failing to include high fire danger warning labels on kids beach towels, but it\u2019s no problem if children sleep in a tower above a carpark full of EVs.<\/p>\n

But after a spate of fires in China, Hotels there are starting to ask customers with EVs to park in open areas outside the building.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":343808,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691830655,691821977,691830654],"class_list":{"0":"post-343804","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-electric-scooters","9":"tag-electric-vehicles-evs","10":"tag-hotels","12":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0Screenshot-2024-09-20-121303.png?fit=1763%2C1029&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1rre","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":338725,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=338725","url_meta":{"origin":343804,"position":0},"title":"\u201cEV-phobia spreads\u201d in South Korea after a Mercedes EV spontaneously combusts in the basement","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"07\/08\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"A Mercedes Benz EV started smoking in an underground carpark in Incheon, South Korea last Thursday at 6:15am. 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