{"id":343575,"date":"2024-09-18T07:47:30","date_gmt":"2024-09-18T05:47:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343575"},"modified":"2024-09-18T07:47:32","modified_gmt":"2024-09-18T05:47:32","slug":"such-is-the-aura-citizen-trump-stymies-the-un-climate-talks-without-even-trying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343575","title":{"rendered":"Such is the aura: Citizen Trump stymies the UN climate talks without even trying"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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By Jo Nova<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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The whole world is waiting to see who wins the US Election<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

The annual UN junket-fest for climate troughers  \u2014 called COP 29<\/a> \u2014 starts the week after the US election. But this year things are running behind schedule as countries sit on their hands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The oceans are boiling, the clock of doom is five seconds from midnight, and \u201crenewables are cheap\u201d, but if the largest economy in the world loses enthusiasm, so does everyone else. For some reason, the same cannot be said about the second, fourth and fifth largest economies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

No wonder they are so afraid of him.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trump stalks global climate talks as COP29 draws near<\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

By Nick Perry, The Japan Times<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Paris \u2013 The prospect of Donald Trump returning as president is hanging over crucial U.N.-sponsored climate negotiations, with countries \u201cholding back\u201d their positions until they know who sits in the White House.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This year\u2019s negotiations hope to increase money for poorer countries to handle climate change, but some governments have not proposed a concrete dollar figure, wary of committing too soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cEverybody is holding back until they know who gets elected,\u201d said Mohamed Adow, a campaigner and head of research group Power Shift Africa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Unlike most years, it\u2019s two month ahead and the money is not<\/em> on the table. The wheeling and dealing is not being done:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The months of lead-up sessions to COP29, which is being hosted this year in Azerbaijan, have been painfully slow even by the plodding standards of global climate diplomacy, participants say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

With just two months to go, there still isn\u2019t an agreed definition of \u201cclimate finance\u201d let alone how much should be paid, which countries should receive it and how, and who should be on the hook for it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some developing countries are demanding north of $1 trillion annually, a 10-fold increase on existing pledges.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If elected, Trump could slash funding for the climate and Ukraine, leaving the EU \u2014 which saw swings to the right in elections this year \u2014 footing the bill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The EU are not so much worried that they might have to \u201cfoot the bill\u201d \u2014 what scares them is that an unleashed United States will outcompete their own sabotaged economies, making them look like losers.  That will feed discontent and the rise of horrid far righty parties. (Those extremists that think men are men and fish don\u2019t need wind turbines.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We can take a tiny spec of comfort in this. It doesn\u2019t mean Trump will win, but it means the Galactic Deep State Blob are still worried<\/em> that he might. Democracy is not completely dead (yet).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Greg Sheridan explains the Australian<\/em> situation, but it is the same in any Climate Patsy Land:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Why a Donald Trump White House spells disaster for Albanese [our Labor PM]<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

if Trump wins, suddenly Albanese\u2019s energy policy will look even more unrealistic, and needlessly costly, than it does now. As it is, the world\u2019s biggest greenhouse gas emitter, China, is increasing its fossil fuel use and not significantly reducing emissions. This is true, too, of fast-growing emitters such as India and Indonesia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If the US at the level of national government turns against the climate action consensus, it will be extremely hard to argue that Australia must suffer vastly greater energy prices in order to keep faith with the allegedly global compact on climate change (which of course is not remotely global).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Just by running for office, Donald Trump is putting the brakes on some of the more flagrant climate payola, at least temporarily.   The Swamp Monsters don\u2019t want to look too profligate lest he win, because when the brains, the factories and the profits all leave for The Land of The Free, it will make their own positions look so ridiculous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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PS: Aurora Watch Active \u2013<\/strong>\u2013 The Sun let off a large X4.5 flare on Sept 12th which is due to arrive in the next few hours, but the best guess (plus or minus a lot) is 21:00 UTC, which is 7am this morning in Sydney (so no good) and 5am in Perth and 5pm in New York. Hopefully friends in Europe get a nice show, or if it\u2019s later, America too. It is being discussed on SpaceWeatherLive<\/a>. To get an email or alarm when it arrives, sign up for The Glendale App<\/a>. <\/strong>Otherwise, keep checking the App screen, EPAM (Low energy Electrons and protons Monitor<\/a>) or magnetometers<\/a> for the earliest warnings, which will come from satellites about 1.5 million kilometres away. At best we only get 45 mins to one hour of warning. It\u2019s not much time to drive to a dark park on a hill facing south, or to move the moon out of the way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Frankly it\u2019s a bit of a scandal we haven\u2019t got any space-drones closer to the sun so we get a few hours planning time. Priorities!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Perhaps someone could ask Elon?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The annual UN junket-fest for climate troughers \u2014 called COP 29 \u2014 starts the week after the US election. But this year things are running behind schedule as countries sit on their hands.<\/p>\n

The oceans are boiling, the clock of doom is five seconds from midnight, and \u201crenewables are cheap\u201d, but if the largest economy in the world loses enthusiasm, so does everyone else. For some reason, the same cannot be said about the second, fourth and fifth largest economies.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":343579,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691825217,691825312,691829168,691823850,691830635],"class_list":{"0":"post-343575","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-azerbaijan","9":"tag-cop-29","10":"tag-president-donald-trump","11":"tag-un-climate-talks","12":"tag-us-election","14":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0titelbild_landingpage_kopie.webp?fit=1200%2C630&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1rnx","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":422563,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=422563","url_meta":{"origin":343575,"position":0},"title":"Donald Trump\u2019s COP Out","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"01\/22\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"President Trump\u2019s decision to withdraw the U.S. from the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) was long overdue.","rel":"","context":"In \"China\u2019s economy and emissions\"","block_context":{"text":"China\u2019s economy and emissions","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=chinas-economy-and-emissions"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/AQMkAy9pjEfV5i0vQs_Y6KPAlSBmgzBCxold6dBiRWYpTmxLvs-gSREo_vYVG0voRFH5Xl6cmX9FKAVdiKlIPrc6ImmlAUv-Ps5OxptmGDTJLOpv0SWiv67NiDqGMv6UBj_0ecZZMHf_ilZ2h91fgNwaw6c.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/AQMkAy9pjEfV5i0vQs_Y6KPAlSBmgzBCxold6dBiRWYpTmxLvs-gSREo_vYVG0voRFH5Xl6cmX9FKAVdiKlIPrc6ImmlAUv-Ps5OxptmGDTJLOpv0SWiv67NiDqGMv6UBj_0ecZZMHf_ilZ2h91fgNwaw6c.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/AQMkAy9pjEfV5i0vQs_Y6KPAlSBmgzBCxold6dBiRWYpTmxLvs-gSREo_vYVG0voRFH5Xl6cmX9FKAVdiKlIPrc6ImmlAUv-Ps5OxptmGDTJLOpv0SWiv67NiDqGMv6UBj_0ecZZMHf_ilZ2h91fgNwaw6c.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/AQMkAy9pjEfV5i0vQs_Y6KPAlSBmgzBCxold6dBiRWYpTmxLvs-gSREo_vYVG0voRFH5Xl6cmX9FKAVdiKlIPrc6ImmlAUv-Ps5OxptmGDTJLOpv0SWiv67NiDqGMv6UBj_0ecZZMHf_ilZ2h91fgNwaw6c.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/AQMkAy9pjEfV5i0vQs_Y6KPAlSBmgzBCxold6dBiRWYpTmxLvs-gSREo_vYVG0voRFH5Xl6cmX9FKAVdiKlIPrc6ImmlAUv-Ps5OxptmGDTJLOpv0SWiv67NiDqGMv6UBj_0ecZZMHf_ilZ2h91fgNwaw6c.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":416417,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=416417","url_meta":{"origin":343575,"position":1},"title":"COP30 Round-Up: Failure of a UN Climate Summit Is Great News for Humanity!","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"12\/07\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Thank You, Mr. President! 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