{"id":343162,"date":"2024-09-15T15:53:01","date_gmt":"2024-09-15T13:53:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343162"},"modified":"2024-09-15T15:53:05","modified_gmt":"2024-09-15T13:53:05","slug":"climate-debate-reasons-for-optimism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=343162","title":{"rendered":"Climate debate: Reasons for optimism"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"343169\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=343169\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?fit=1920%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0 sunny day\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-343169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/0-sunny-day.jpeg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/09\/14\/climate-debate-reasons-for-optimism\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tomn.substack.com\/p\/climate-debate-reasons-for-optimism\">Tom Nelson\u2019s Substack<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignleft\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/w_80%2Cc_limit%2Cf_auto%2Cq_auto%3Agood%2Cfl_progressive%3Asteep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc78a9aae-1e1b-444f-a580-4eff849f2df8_1000x1000.jpeg?w=723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/profile\/32183373-tom-nelson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/substack.com\/@tomn\">Tom Nelson<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The fact that so many people, including doctors such as Robert Malone, are now pushing back against the climate scam is a *very* positive development.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After discovering so many massive, high-profile lies in recent years, large numbers of people are asking themselves &#8220;What else are they lying about?&#8221;, and the answer is &#8220;just about everything&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Elites tried for the Great Reset but they got a Great Awakening.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some more reasons for optimism:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Climate Nexus, a warmist organization which pushed climate hysteria for over a decade and had tens of employees,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TomANelson\/status\/1804947876562247882\">suddenly threw in the towel<\/a>\u00a0a few months ago.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The Daily Kos ClimateDenierRoundup page, which spewed climate scam propaganda incessantly (2,200 posts!) for many years,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailykos.com\/users\/climatedenierroundup\">abruptly stopped posting<\/a>\u00a0in December 2023.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Joe Rogan, with his huge audience, was a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TomANelson\/status\/1122656918114381824\">full-on warmist in 2018<\/a>\u00a0but now routinely scoffs at the climate scam:<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"860\" data-attachment-id=\"343165\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=343165\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?fit=922%2C1096&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"922,1096\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?fit=723%2C860&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?resize=723%2C860&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-343165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?resize=861%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 861w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?resize=252%2C300&amp;ssl=1 252w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?resize=768%2C913&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-340.png?w=922&amp;ssl=1 922w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"4\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>As a long-time reader of replies and comment sections on social media, I\u2019ve seen a heartwarming increase in the number of climate realists pushing back.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"621\" data-attachment-id=\"343167\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=343167\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?fit=1112%2C954&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1112,954\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?fit=723%2C621&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?resize=723%2C621&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-343167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?resize=1024%2C879&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?resize=300%2C257&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?resize=768%2C659&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/image-341.png?w=1112&amp;ssl=1 1112w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"5\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Facing increasing pushback, many warmist scientists have become less active on X, or have left X altogether.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/ClimateOfGavin\/status\/1808486559777276359\">NASA\u2019s Gavin Schmidt is one example<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In recent months, lots of companies have been abandoning climate goals.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/NetZeroWatch\/status\/1818232801910481402\">Air New Zealand is one example<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>For eight weeks, Greta Thunberg\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/TomANelson\/status\/1819691288368644546\">didn&#8217;t bother to tweet a photo of herself\u00a0<\/a>with a \u201cclimate\u201d sign. Even climate change\u2019s poster child seems to be less interested in pushing this scam.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The fact that so many people, including doctors such as Robert Malone, are now pushing back against the climate scam is a *very* positive development.<\/p>\n<p>After discovering so many massive, high-profile lies in recent years, large numbers of people are asking themselves &#8220;What else are they lying about?&#8221;, and the answer is &#8220;just about everything&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":343169,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_wpcom_ai_launchpad_first_post":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691830598,691830597,691818240],"class_list":["post-343162","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-great-awakening","tag-positive-development","tag-the-great-reset","fallback-thumbnail"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1rgS","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":425300,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=425300","url_meta":{"origin":343162,"position":0},"title":"Climate firings at the WaPo in perspective","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"02\/09\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"There\u2019s a lot of buzz in the climate community about all the layoffs at the\u00a0Washington Post\u00a0in their climate division. 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