{"id":340559,"date":"2024-08-24T18:11:15","date_gmt":"2024-08-24T16:11:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=340559"},"modified":"2024-08-24T18:11:18","modified_gmt":"2024-08-24T16:11:18","slug":"illogically-facts-fact-checking-by-innuendo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=340559","title":{"rendered":"Illogically Facts \u2014\u201cFact-Checking\u201d by Innuendo"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"340562\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=340562\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?fit=1920%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0,200902-fact-checkers-feat\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-340562\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0200902-fact-checkers-feat.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/08\/23\/illogically-facts-fact-checking-by-innuendo\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Guest Essay by <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/author\/kiphansen2\/\">Kip Hansen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The latest fad in all kinds of activism to attack one\u2019s ideological opponents via \u201cfact checking\u201d.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;We see this in politics and all the modern controversies, including, of course, Climate Science.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Almost none of the \u201cfact checking sites\u201d and \u201cfact checking organizations\u201d actually&nbsp;<strong><em>check facts<\/em><\/strong>.&nbsp; And, if they accidentally find themselves checking what we would all agree is a fact, and not just an opinion or point of view, invariably it is checked against an contrary opinion, a different point of view or an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/judithcurry.com\/2017\/02\/26\/whats-wrong-with-alternative-facts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">alternative fact<\/a>. &nbsp;The resulting fact check report depends on the purposes of the fact check.&nbsp; Some are done to confirm that \u201cour guy\u201d or \u201cour team\u201d is proved to be correct, or that the opposition is proved to be wrong, lying or misinformation. &nbsp;When a fact is found to be different in any way from the desired fact, even the tiniest way, the original being checked is labelled a falsehood, or worse, an intentional lie. (or conversely, other people are lying about our fact!).&nbsp; &nbsp;Nobody likes a liar, so this sort of fake fact checking accomplishes two goals \u2013 it casts doubt on the not-favored fact supposedly being checked and smears an ideological opponent as a liar.&nbsp; One stone \u2013 two birds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While not entirely new on the fact-checking scene, an&nbsp;<em>AI-enhanced<\/em>&nbsp;effort has popped to the surface of the roiling seas of controversy:&nbsp;<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.logicallyfacts.com\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Logically Facts<\/a><\/em><\/strong>.&nbsp; \u201cLogically Facts is part of Meta\u2019s Third Party Fact-Checking Program (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/formedia\/mjp\/programs\/third-party-fact-checking\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">3PFC<\/a>) and works with TikTok in Europe. We have been a verified signatory of the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) since 2020 and are a member of the Misinformation Combat Alliance (MCA) in India and the European Digital Media Observatory (EDMO) in Europe.\u201d [&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.logicallyfacts.com\/en\/about-us\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">source<\/a>&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp; Meta? \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fool.com\/investing\/how-to-invest\/stocks\/what-does-meta-own\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Meta Platforms<\/a>\u2026is the undisputed leader in social media. The technology company owns three of the four biggest platforms by monthly active users (Facebook, WhatsApp, and Instagram).\u201d \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.statista.com\/topics\/9038\/meta-platforms\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Meta\u2019s social networks<\/a>&nbsp;are known as its Family of Apps (FoA). As of the fourth quarter of 2023, they attracted&nbsp;<strong>almost four billion users per month<\/strong>.\u201d&nbsp; &nbsp;And TikTok?&nbsp; It has&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/backlinko.com\/tiktok-users#how-many-people-use-tiktok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">over a billion users<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m doubt that one can add up the 4 billion and the 1 billion to make 5 billion users of META and TikTok combined, but in any case, that\u2019s a huge percentage of humanity any way one looks at it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And who is providing fact-checking to those billion of people?&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong><em>Logically Facts&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong>[LF]<strong><em>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what kind of fact-checking does LF do?&nbsp; Let\u2019s look at an example that will deal with something very familiar with readers here:&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>Climate Science Denial<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Climate_change_denial\">definition put forward by the Wiki<\/a>&nbsp;is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c<strong>Climate change denial<\/strong>&nbsp;(also&nbsp;<strong>global warming denial<\/strong>) is a form of science denial characterized by rejecting, refusing to acknowledge, disputing, or fighting the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change\">scientific consensus on climate change<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Other popular definitions of climate change denial include: attacks on solutions, questioning official climate change science and\/or the climate movement itself.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I had all the time left to me in this world, I could do a deep, deep dive into the Fact-Checking Industry.&nbsp; But, being limited, let\u2019s look, together, at one single \u201canalysis\u201d article from&nbsp;<strong><em>Logically Facts:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.logicallyfacts.com\/en\/analysis\/fake-experts-fueling-climate-change-denial\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u2018Pseudoscience, no crisis\u2019: How fake experts are fueling climate change denial<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This article is a fascinating study in \u201c<em>fake-fact-checking by inuendo<\/em>\u201d.&nbsp; As we go through the article, sampling its claims, I\u2019ll alert you to any check of an actual fact \u2013 don\u2019t hold your breath. &nbsp;&nbsp;If you wish to be pro-active,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.logicallyfacts.com\/en\/analysis\/fake-experts-fueling-climate-change-denial\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">read the LF piece first<\/a>, and you\u2019ll have a better handle on what they are doing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lede in their piece is this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cWould you seek dental advice from an ophthalmologist? The answer is obvious. Yet, on social media, self-proclaimed \u2018experts\u2019 with little to no relevant knowledge of climate science are influencing public opinion.\u201d&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The two editors of this \u201canalysis\u201d are listed as Shreyashi Roy [MA in Mass Communications and a BA in English Literature] and Nitish Rampal [ \u2026 based out of New Delhi and has \u2026. a keen interest in sports, politics, and tech.]&nbsp; The author is said to be [more on \u201csaid to be\u201d in a minute\u2026] Anurag Baruah [MA in English Language and a certificate in&nbsp;<em>Environmental Journalism: Storytelling<\/em>&nbsp;earned online from the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thomsonfoundation.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Thompson Founation<\/a>.]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Why do you say \u201csaid to be\u201d, Mr. Hansen?<\/em>&nbsp; If you had read the LF piece, as I suggested, you would see that it reads as if it was \u201cwritten\u201d by an AI Large Language Model, followed by editing for sense and sensibility by a human, probably, Mr. Baruah, followed by further editing by Roy and Rampal.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lede is itself an illogic.&nbsp; First it speaks of medical\/dental advice, pointing out, quite rightly, that they are different specializations.&nbsp; But then complains that unnamed so-called&nbsp;<em>self-proclaimed experts<\/em>&nbsp;who LF claims \u201c<em>have<\/em>&nbsp;<em>little to no relevant knowledge of climate science<\/em>\u201d are influencing public opinion.&nbsp; &nbsp;Since these persons are so-far unnamed, LF\u2019s AI, author and subsequent editors could not possibly know what their level of knowledge about climate science might be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Who exactly are they smearing here?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201c<\/em><em>One such \u2018expert,\u2019&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/perma.cc\/BD9B-2RLY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Steve Milloy<\/a>, a prominent voice on social media platform X (formerly Twitter), described a NASA Climate<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/NASAClimate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&nbsp;post<\/a>&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/perma.cc\/9PJN-KM6Y\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">archive<\/a>) about the impact of climate change on our seas as a \u201clie\u201d on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/perma.cc\/462M-89MV\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">June 26, 2024<\/a>.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is absolutely true that Milloy, who is well-known to be an \u201cin-your-face\u201d and \u201cslightly over the-top\u201d critic of all things science that he considers poorly done, being over-hyped, or otherwise falling into his category of \u201cJunk Science\u201d, posted on X the item claimed.&nbsp; LF , its AI, author and editors make no effort to check what fact\/facts Milloy was calling a lie, or to check NASA\u2019s facts in any way whatever.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You see, Milloy calling any claim from NASA \u201ca lie\u201d would be an&nbsp;<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/a%20priori\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">a priori<\/a><\/em>&nbsp;case of Climate Denial:&nbsp; he is refuting or refusing to accept some point of official climate science.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Who is Steve Milloy?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Steve Milloy is a&nbsp;<strong>Board Member &amp; Senior Policy Fellow&nbsp;<\/strong>of the&nbsp;<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/eelegal.org\/senior-leadership\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Energy and Environment Legal Institute<\/a>,&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong>author of seven books and over 600 articles\/columns published in major newspapers, magazines and internet outlets. &nbsp;He has testified by request before the U.S. Congress many times, including on risk assessment and Superfund issues.&nbsp; He is an Adjunct Fellow of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/nationalcenter.org\/ncppr\/staff\/steve-milloy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">National Center for Public Policy Research<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cHe holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences, Johns Hopkins University; Master of Health Sciences (Biostatistics), Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health; Juris Doctorate, University of Baltimore; and Master of Laws (Securities regulation) from the Georgetown University Law Center.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It seems that many consider Mr. Milloy to be an expert in many things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the evidence for LF\u2019s dismissal of Milloy as a&nbsp;<em>\u201cself-proclaimed expert\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;&nbsp;having \u201c<em>little to no relevant knowledge of climate science<\/em>\u201d?&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The Guardian<\/em>, co-founder of the climate crisis propaganda outfit Covering Climate Now,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2006\/sep\/19\/ethicalliving.g2#:~:text=The%20website%20it%20has%20financed,with%20Nazis%2C%20communists%20and%20terrorists.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">said<\/a>&nbsp;\u201cJunkScience.com, has been called \u201cthe main entrep\u00f4t for almost every kind of climate-change denial\u201d\u201d and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/perma.cc\/J7F2-66SW\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">after a link listing Milloy\u2019s degrees<\/a>, pooh-poohed him for \u201clacking formal training in climate science.\u201d&nbsp; Well, a BA in Natural Sciences might count for something. And a law degree is not nothing. The last link which gives clear evidence that Milloy is a well-recognized expert and it is obvious that the LF AI, author, and editors either did not read the contents of the link or simply chose to ignore it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Incredibly, LF\u2019s next target is&nbsp;<em>\u201c\u2026 John Clauser, a 2022 Nobel Prize winner in physics,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/climate-environment\/2023\/11\/16\/john-clauser-nobel-climate-denial\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">claimed<\/a>&nbsp;that no climate crisis exists and that climate science is \u201cpseudoscience.\u201d Clauser\u2019s Nobel Prize lent weight to his statements, but he has never published a peer-reviewed paper on climate change.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LF\u2019s evidence against Clauser is&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/climate-environment\/2023\/11\/16\/john-clauser-nobel-climate-denial\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Washington Post<\/a>&nbsp;in an article attacking not just Clauser, but a long list of major physicists who do not support the IPCC consensus on climate change:&nbsp; Willie Soon (including the lie that Soon\u2019s work was financed by fossil fuel companies) , Steve Koonin, Dick Lindzen and Will Happer.&nbsp;&nbsp; The Post article fails to discuss any of the reasons these esteemed, world-class physicists are not consensus-supporting club members.&nbsp; Their non-conforming is their crime. &nbsp;No facts are checked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LF reinforces the attack on world-renown physicists with a quote from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ucl.ac.uk\/earth-sciences\/people\/academic\/prof-bill-mcguire\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Professor Bill McGuire<\/a><em>:&nbsp; \u201cSuch fake experts are dangerous and, in my opinion, incredibly irresponsible\u2014Nobel Prize or not. A physicist denying anthropogenic climate change is actually denying the well-established physical properties of carbon dioxide, which is simply absurd.\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">McGuire, is not a physicist and is not a climate scientist, but has a PhD in Geology and is a&nbsp;<strong>volcanologist&nbsp;<\/strong>and an<strong>&nbsp;IPCC contributor. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong>He also could be seen as \u201clacking formal training in climate science.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, McGuire has a point, which LF, its AI and its human editors seem to miss, the very basis of the CO2 Global Warming hypothesis is&nbsp;<em>based on physics<\/em>, not based on what is today called \u201cclimate science\u201d. Thus, the physicists are the&nbsp;<strong>true experts<\/strong>&nbsp;. (and not the volcanologists\u2026.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LF then launches into the gratuitous comparison of \u201cfake experts\u201d in the anti-tobacco fight, alludes to oil industry ties, and then snaps right to John Cook.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">John Cook, a world leader in attacking Climate Change Denial, is not a climate scientist.&nbsp; He is not a geologist, not an atmospheric scientist, not an oceanic scientist, not a physicist, not even a volcanologist. &nbsp; He &nbsp;\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.climatechangecommunication.org\/all\/team_member\/john-cook\/\">earned his PhD in Cognitive Science at the University of Western Australia in 2016<\/a>\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The rest of the&nbsp;<em>Logically Facts&nbsp;<\/em>fake-analysis is basically a re-writing of some of Cook\u2019s anti-Climate Denialists screeds.&nbsp; Maybe\/probably resulting from an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/cset.georgetown.edu\/article\/the-surprising-power-of-next-word-prediction-large-language-models-explained-part-1\/\">AI large language model<\/a>&nbsp;trained on pro-consensus climate materials. &nbsp;<em>Logically Facts&nbsp;<\/em>is specifically and openly an AI-based effort.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">LF proceeds to attack&nbsp;<strong><em>a series of persons<\/em><\/strong>, not their ideas, one after another: &nbsp;Tony Heller, Dr. Judith Curry, Patrick Moore and Bj\u00f8rn Lomborg.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The expertise of these individuals in their respective fields are either ignored or brushed over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cme-stem.org\/people\/judith-curry\/\">Curry is a world renown climate scientist<\/a>, former chair of the&nbsp;<em>School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.<\/em>&nbsp; Curry is the author<em>&nbsp;the<\/em>&nbsp;book on&nbsp;<em>Thermodynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans<\/em>, another book on&nbsp;<em>Thermodynamics, Kinetics, and Microphysics of Clouds<\/em>, and the marvelous groundbreaking&nbsp;<em>Climate Uncertainty and Risk: Rethinking Our Response<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C33&amp;q=Dr.+Judith+Curry+climate&amp;btnG=\">Google scholar returns over 10,000 references<\/a>&nbsp;to a search of \u201cDr. Judith Curry climate\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lomborg is a socio-economist with an impressive record, a best selling author and a leading expert on issues of energy dependence, value for money spent on international anti-poverty and public health efforts, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/profiles.sussex.ac.uk\/p289812-richard-tol\">Richard Tol<\/a>, is mention negatively for daring to doubt the \u201c97% consensus\u201d, with no mention of his qualifications as a&nbsp;<strong>Professor of Economics<\/strong>&nbsp;and a&nbsp;<strong>Professor of the Economics of Climate Change<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Bottom Line:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wattsupwiththat.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/thumbs-down_100.jpg?resize=100%2C100&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10298648\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Logically Facts&nbsp;<\/em>is a Large Language Model-type AI, supplemented by writers and editors meant to clean-up the mess returned by this chat-bot type AI.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Thus, it is entirely incapable to making any value judgements between repeated slander, enforced consensus views, the prevailing biases of scientific fields and actual facts. &nbsp;Further, any LLM-based AI is incapable of Critical Thinking and drawing logical conclusions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In short,&nbsp;<em>Logically Facts<\/em>&nbsp;is Illogical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong># # # # #<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Author\u2019s Comment:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I am not a fan of Artificial Intelligence (an oxymoron).&nbsp; Logically Facts and the rest of the Logically empire,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.logically.ai\/\">Logically.ai<\/a>, suffer from all of the major flaws in current versions of various types of AIs, including hallucination, break-down and the AI-version of \u201cyou are what you eat\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I understand it,&nbsp;<em>Logically Facts&nbsp;<\/em>uses a LLM that is trained to trust official sources (governments),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Newspaper_of_record\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">newspapers of record<\/a>&nbsp;(such as the The New York Times, The Guardian, The Washington Post, etc) and academics quoted in those sources and discount any source that does not agree with the opinions of those sources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The problem is immediately apparent:&nbsp; in any sort of controversy, the most \u201cofficial\u201d and widespread view wins and is declared \u201ctrue\u201d and contrary views are declared \u201cmisinformation\u201d or \u201cdisinformation\u201d.&nbsp; Individuals representing the minority view are labelled \u201cdeniers\u201d (of whatever) and all slander and libel against them is rated \u201ctrue\u201d by default.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is the natural outcome of LLMs \u2013 that effect is&nbsp;<em>magnified by tweaking their training algorithms<\/em>&nbsp;to accept certain sources and types of sources as definitive and other sources and types of sources as untrustworthy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">An AI-chat-bot can answer easy, non-controversial factual questions correctly \u2013 and are a quick, down-and-dirty method of find out things like:&nbsp; \u201cWhat is the capital city of Turkey?\u201d (as long as you don\u2019t want to fight about the history\u2026.).&nbsp; 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