{"id":339769,"date":"2024-08-16T15:58:51","date_gmt":"2024-08-16T13:58:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=339769"},"modified":"2024-08-16T15:58:53","modified_gmt":"2024-08-16T13:58:53","slug":"no-nyt-climate-tipping-points-are-not-in-our-near-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=339769","title":{"rendered":"No, NYT, \u2018Climate Tipping Points\u2019 are Not in Our Near Future"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"575\" data-attachment-id=\"339770\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=339770\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?fit=1094%2C871&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1094,871\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0NYT-tipping-points\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?fit=723%2C575&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?resize=723%2C575&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-339770\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?resize=1024%2C815&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?resize=300%2C239&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?resize=768%2C611&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?w=1094&amp;ssl=1 1094w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2024\/08\/no-nyt-climate-tipping-points-are-not-in-our-near-future\/\">ClimateRealism<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By <a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/author\/awatts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Anthony Watts<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The New York Times<\/em>&nbsp;(NYT) recently published a special Sunday feature titled, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2024\/08\/11\/climate\/earth-warming-climate-tipping-points.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How Close Are the Planet\u2019s Climate Tipping Points?\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The article, which is heavy on infographics and short on actual references or facts tackles several topics about Earth\u2019s features that may be \u201cin danger of collapse.\u201d The entire article is nothing more than speculation with pretty graphics and doesn\u2019t offer any evidence whatsoever that Earth is close to these so-called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-tipping-point-1-5-degrees-celsius-warming\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">tipping points.<\/a>\u201d The article heavily hedges its bets with weasel-words such as,&nbsp;<em>could, may, might<\/em>, and&nbsp;<em>possibly<\/em>&nbsp;but doesn\u2019t make a single solid prediction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s a summary of the NYT article claims, plus the prediction of \u201cWhen it might happen,\u201d which follows each topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the past two decades, scientists have been raising alarms about great systems in the natural world that warming, caused by carbon emissions, might be pushing toward collapse. These systems are so vast that they can stay somewhat in balance even as temperatures rise. But only to a point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once we warm the planet beyond certain levels, this balance might be lost, scientists say. The effects would be sweeping and hard to reverse. Not like the turning of a dial, but the flipping of a switch. One that wouldn\u2019t be easily flipped back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mass Death of Coral Reefs<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In time, the reefs can bounce back. As the world gets warmer, though, occasional bleaching is becoming regular bleaching. Mild bleaching is becoming severe bleaching.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:<\/em><\/strong><em>&nbsp;It could already be underway.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Collapse of Greenland Ice and Breakup of West Antarctic Ice<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The collapse of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets could become more likely at 1.5\u00b0C.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:<\/em><\/strong><em>&nbsp;The timing will vary place to place. The effects on global warming could accumulate over a century or more. Irreversible melting could begin this century and unfold over hundreds, even thousands, of years.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Abrupt Thawing of Permafrost<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The localized thaw of permafrost could become more likely at 1.5\u00b0C.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:<\/em><\/strong><em>&nbsp;The timing will vary place to place. The effects on global warming could accumulate over a century or more.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Sudden Shift in the West African Monsoon<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Monsoons may be disrupted.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:<\/em><\/strong><em>&nbsp;Hard to predict.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Loss of Amazon Rainforest<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By 2050, as much as half of today\u2019s Amazon forest could be at risk.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><em>Will depend on how rapidly people clear, or protect, the remaining forest.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Shutdown of Atlantic Currents<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC may slow down, changing the weather.&nbsp;<strong><em>When it might happen:<\/em><\/strong><em>&nbsp;Very hard to predict.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As you can see for yourself, the NYT didn\u2019t have a single definitive answer for \u201c<em>When it might happen.\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;This is not at all surprising as every one of these predictions about tipping points is based on computerized climate models which we know to be faulty and have a tendency to be&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-models-vs-measured-temperature-data\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">running overly hot<\/a>&nbsp;with no scientific justification other than built-in bias.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is what we know based on actual data and measurements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Coral Reefs are doing very well.\u00a0<\/strong>Despite over hyped media claims, such as the poster child for this issue, the Great Barrier Reef in Australia it is actually doing quite well and has reached its\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2024\/08\/the-bbc-is-promoting-a-false-catastrophic-narrative-about-the-great-barrier-reef-its-doing-fine\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">largest range of expansion in 2024 ever recorded<\/a>. It has been steadily improving.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The<strong>\u00a0Abrupt Thawing of Permafrost\u00a0<\/strong>is a summer phenomenon. While there is a few instances of this happening in winter, this is due to changes in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-weather-vs-climate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">weather patterns, not climate<\/a>. Permafrost records are so short in duration, we don\u2019t have any idea if this has also happened in the past. Arctic regions have\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/nsidc.org\/learn\/parts-cryosphere\/arctic-weather-and-climate#:~:text=In%20some%20regions%20of%20Siberia,86%20%C2%B0F)%20or%20more.\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">high natural temperature variability<\/a>. For example, in some regions of Siberia, average January temperatures are lower than -40 \u00b0C (-40 \u00b0F). In the summer, the long days of sunshine thaw the top layer of frozen ground and bring average temperatures above 10 \u00b0C (50 \u00b0F). At some weather stations in the interior, summer temperatures can reach 30 \u00b0C (86 \u00b0F) or more.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Greenland Ice is melting, but the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-greenland-ice-melt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">melt is miniscule compared to the entire ice mass<\/a>.\u00a0<\/strong>It also refreezes every winter.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The breakup of West Antarctic Ice due to melting has been theorized for decades but hasn\u2019t happened.\u00a0<\/strong>Again, like Greenland Ice,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climateataglance.com\/climate-at-a-glance-antarctic-ice-melt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the melt is minuscule compared to the total ice in Antarctica<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>No shift in the West African Monsoon has been observed.\u00a0<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mdpi.com\/2073-4433\/11\/3\/309\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Science shows us<\/a>\u00a0that the West African Summer Monsoon rainfall exhibits large variability at interannual and decadal timescales, causing droughts and floods in many years.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The loss of Amazon Rainforest is mostly about\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ballardbrief.byu.edu\/issue-briefs\/deforestation-in-the-amazon-rainforest#:~:text=20%25%20of%20the%20Amazon%20biome,23\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">clearing of lands for agriculture and mining<\/a>, not climate change.\u00a0<\/strong>The NYT article even mentions this even though they still insist climate change will have a role.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>There\u2019s been no evidence of shutdown of Atlantic Currents like the AMOC.\u00a0<\/strong>Science shows it\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2020\/03\/scientists-acknowledge-ocean-currents-not-slowing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">not slowing at all<\/a>. In fact climate science can\u2019t actually decide from year to year\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/climaterealism.com\/2021\/02\/climate-activists-flip-flop-on-ocean-currents-yet-again\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">whether it is speeding up or slowing down<\/a>. The last sentence of the NYT section on Atlantic currents says, \u201cWhen it might happen:\u00a0Very hard to predict.\u201d Is accurate, yet they still list it as a concern.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In summary, this NYT article is nothing but fear-mongering with a razor-thin veneer of science to back it up. Every one of the \u201cpredictions\u201d is so open-ended that they have the same probability of a coin-toss. However, based on the physical evidence and data we have so far, which suggest none of these tipping points will occur, even 50-50 odds are unlikely to be representative of the future. The NYT did their readers a huge disservice with this article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The New York Times\u00a0(NYT) recently published a special Sunday feature titled, \u201cHow Close Are the Planet\u2019s Climate Tipping Points?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The article, which is heavy on infographics and short on actual references or facts tackles several topics about Earth\u2019s features that may be \u201cin danger of collapse.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":339770,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691819743,691820648,691830179,691823155,691830177,691830178,691830180],"class_list":{"0":"post-339769","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-climate-propaganda","9":"tag-coral-reefs","10":"tag-greenland-ice","11":"tag-new-york-times-nyt","12":"tag-planets-climate-tipping-points","13":"tag-speculation","14":"tag-west-antarctic-ice","16":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0NYT-tipping-points.png?fit=1094%2C871&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1qo9","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":425741,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=425741","url_meta":{"origin":339769,"position":0},"title":"Right, New York Times, Scientists Do Disagree on The Polar Vortex","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"11\/02\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"A recent article in\u00a0The\u00a0New York Times\u00a0(NYT) \u201cWhat\u2019s Up With This Big Freeze? 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