{"id":339218,"date":"2024-08-11T16:34:49","date_gmt":"2024-08-11T14:34:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=339218"},"modified":"2024-08-11T16:34:51","modified_gmt":"2024-08-11T14:34:51","slug":"earth-14-years-away-from-ted-turners-2038-countdown-to-cannibalism-2008-flashback-most-of-the-people-will-have-died-and-the-rest-of-us-will-be-cannibals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=339218","title":{"rendered":"Earth 14 years away from Ted Turner\u2019s 2038 Countdown to Cannibalism: 2008 Flashback: \u2018Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"521\" data-attachment-id=\"339225\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=339225\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?fit=2048%2C1475&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1475\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0 Ted Turner\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?fit=723%2C521&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=723%2C521&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-339225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=1024%2C738&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=300%2C216&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=768%2C553&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1106&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?resize=1200%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0-Ted-Turner.jpeg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.climatedepot.com\/2024\/08\/09\/earth-14-years-away-from-ted-turners-2038-countdown-to-cannibalism-2008-flashback-most-of-the-people-will-have-died-and-the-rest-of-us-will-be-cannibals\/\">Climate Depot<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.climatedepot.com\/author\/marcmorano\/\">By\u00a0Marc Morano<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/\">Whatever Will Climateers Cook Up Next? &#8211; Quadrant Online<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Whatever Will Climateers Cook Up Next?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>By Tony Thomas<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Among the inspirational spokesfolk sermonising about saving the planet from fossil fuels are actress Jane Fonda and ex-husband Ted Turner (2024 net worth&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/profile\/ted-turner\/\">$US2.5 billio<\/a>n). Jane ditched Ted in 2001 after 10 years marriage, leaving Ted so heart-broken that he needed&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/news\/general-news\/ted-turner-jane-fonda-cnn-time-warner-295773\/\">a quartet of girlfriends<\/a>&nbsp;for consolation. He rotated each for one week per month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jane extracted $US40 million from Ted as a divorce settlement. This helped keep the wolf from her door as she turned author in 2020 to write&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com.au\/What-Can-Do-Climate-Despair\/dp\/0593296249\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=GBLWO6YQIK5Z&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.67KdMQzUwftI-8TGuTBtZoRZr3raNYcnqC_3VDiWretqvERr49K_d-e22eF-7wJRIYK6AtedHA5xg6-cjvkeAt4qJd7Ee4uwROb-IAgaoAfQda61_ScRoRssD1-nnzhvbDEwkkqdrxBHivHyjyc0i6AHdW3qF6u3eakIYnCBdltlN7fARf-AMuJiuKp4gvmUHoWzBNd6EQc8AOFWb8ngL1vkNkBLy3IaSpYP3yJHGBg.hRUe4p62x84xX0YsoUmB29douZ0RmxNkW86bV3yW3c0&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=jane+fonda+what+can+i+do&amp;qid=1723102380&amp;sprefix=jane+fonda+what+can+i+do%2Caps%2C228&amp;sr=8-1\"><em>\u201cWhat Can I Do?\u201d<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;about arresting the planet\u2019s imminent death from CO2. The same year, with other Hollywood A-listers, she also&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailywire.com\/news\/read-it-hollywood-stars-demand-radical-transformation-of-world-no-return-to-normal-after-covid-crisis\">signed a petition<\/a>&nbsp;against excessive consumerism, which demanded that governments fiercely crack down on emissions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The ongoing ecological catastrophe is a meta-crisis: the massive extinction of life on Earth is no longer in doubt, and all indicators point to a direct existential threat \u2026 The pursuit of consumerism<\/em>&nbsp;[see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/the-voice\/2023\/07\/no-wonder-the-yes-camp-axed-its-celebrity-shills\/#_edn3\">here<\/a>]&nbsp;<em>and an obsession with productivity have led us to deny the value of life itself \u2026<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For Leigh Sales at ABCTV\u2019s&nbsp;<em>7.30<\/em>, the combination of celebrity Jane and more touting of global warming was irresistible. The interview was a classic. Fonda literally&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2020-09-10\/jane-fonda-on-why-she%E2%80%99s-devoting-the-rest-of-her\/12652618\">wept on camera<\/a>&nbsp;about emissions \u201ctrashing our home\u201d (in her case an $US5.4 million Los Angeles townhouse):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>All these wonderful species are going to go and life is going to be very, very difficult to live and eventually possibly the human species will go as well because we are trashing our home and I just, I wouldn\u2019t be able to live with myself or die with myself if I don\u2019t do something.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She grieved with Sales (herself on something north of $400,000) about the cost of living:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do&nbsp;<em>I need money? There\u2019s that. People forget that we are working people. I belong to three unions. I have to earn a living. I have a bottom line that I\u2019ve got, that I have to meet and its tough right now.&nbsp;I mean, not that tough, I have a roof over my head and a very nice home that\u2019s paid for and food and I have an assistant with me and I\u2019m very, very lucky, but I\u2019m worried. We will have gone almost a year without working and that\u2019s scary\u2026. I have to keep working.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You might by now be asking, \u201cSo what? Got anything new to say about celebrities?\u201d Well, yes I have. This essay is about how celebs warn that global warming will turn us into cannibals, maybe you\u2019re not up with that prospect yet? Jane\u2019s ex-husband Ted is a leading public intellectual on this cannibalism forecast. He\u2019s influential too \u2013 in 2017 he&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/undispatch.com\/20-years-ago-today-ted-turner-announced-1-billion-gift-united-nations\/#:~:text=On%20September%2018%2C%201997%20Ted,billion%20to%20the%20United%20Nations.\">donated $US1 billion<\/a>&nbsp;to the United Nations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By 2038, he believes, the last survivors of the world\u2019s heat-stricken masses will turn on each other for food. His prediction in 2008 was taken up by the conservative&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/freebeacon.com\/culture\/countdown-to-cannibalism\/\"><em>Washington Free Beacon<\/em>&nbsp;online newspaper<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In order to help people prepare for&nbsp;what is coming, the&nbsp;Free Beacon&nbsp;created the Countdown to Cannibalism Clock, which will let you know exactly how much time is left&nbsp;until&nbsp;you must engage in the practice for basic sustenance.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DSlB1nW4S54?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apr 2, 2008 \u2013&nbsp;From the Charlie Rose Show: TED TURNER: Not doing it will be catastrophic. We\u2019ll be eight degrees hotter in ten, not ten but 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals. Civilization will have broken down. The few people left will be living in a failed state \u2014 like Somalia or Sudan \u2014 and living conditions will be intolerable. The droughts will be so bad there\u2019ll be no more corn grown. Not doing it is suicide. Just like dropping bombs on each other, nuclear weapons is suicide. We\u2019ve got to stop doing the suicidal two things, which are hanging on to our nuclear weapons and after that we\u2019ve got to stabilize the population. When I was born- CHARLIE ROSE: So what\u2019s wrong with the population? TURNER: We\u2019re too many people. That\u2019s why we have global warming. We have global warming because too many people are using too much stuff. If there were less people, they\u2019d be using less stuff.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On my calculations, the Cannibalism Clock now stands at 28 minutes to midnight, but I can\u2019t find the clock online. It must be somewhere. The&nbsp;<em>Washington Free Beacon<\/em>, by the way, is no lightweight . Not part of regime media, this year it disclosed the plagiarisms by Harvard\u2019s diversity President Claudine Gay, forcing her resignation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ted Turner forecast temps would be 8 degrees hotter (he was talking Fahrenheit) by 2038, frizzling the world\u2019s crops.&nbsp; \u201cMost of the people will have died and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ajc.com\/entertainment\/celebrity-news\/ted-turner-global-warming-can-lead-cannibalism\/Tfn5YrmURB2zHKuNTCUXHM\/\">the rest of us will be cannibals<\/a>. Civilization will have broken down. The few people left will be living in a failed state \u2014 like Somalia or Sudan \u2014 and living conditions will be intolerable.\u201d Who\u2019s to blame? \u201cToo many people are using too much stuff,\u201d replied the billionaire. As he put it, \u201cI lost Jane [Fonda]. I lost my job here. I lost my fortune, most of it, got a billion or two left.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/transcripts.cnn.com\/show\/pmt\/date\/2012-05-03\/segment\/01\">You can get by on that if you economise<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some say Turner\u2019s cannibalism prediction is already coming true, others claim the cases are just random:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2666 In Pakistan, two brothers were caught&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.indiatoday.in\/world\/story\/cannibal-pakistani-brothers-eat-human-curry-made-from-corpses-224440-2014-10-24\">digging up corpses and grinding them into curries<\/a>, forcing the government to bring in new laws against such ingredients.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2666 In Russia in 2010, a couple not only killed and ate from more than 30 people, but put&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.9news.com.au\/world\/russian-cannibals-human-meat-pies\/603475e5-665a-4424-8b01-98a2fcc58021\">leftovers into meat pies<\/a>&nbsp;which the wife sold to the military trainees and student pilots at the academy where she worked.&nbsp;Police found they\u2019d also made a least one jar of human pickles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2666 In Bangkok in 2018, a restaurant owner killed a patron after a row, and tried to disappear the evidence by adding small pieces of his victim to his menu items. As it was a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/lifestyle\/real-life\/wtf\/horror-as-diners-served-human-flesh-by-killer-restaurant-owner\/news-story\/5deb2b5acb9645dbc4eea1406983c749\">vegetarian restaurant<\/a>, diners quickly complained and his scheme unravelled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2666 Also in 2018, a 22-year-old Russian literally axed his landlord, and with his 12-year-old girlfriend Valeria, microwaved and ate him. Valeria, who also cooked parts in a frying pan, told police the heart was too sweet but \u201cthe brains turned out to be much more tasty.\u201d Her adult boyfriend killed himself and Valeria was sent to a school in southern Russia, but she bragged so much to classmates about tasty brains that she got transferred to a one-teacher orphanage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ted Turner might have got his cannibal inspiration from the cli-fi MGM movie&nbsp;<em>Soylent Green&nbsp;<\/em>of 1973, which foresaw global warming turning New York City in 2022 (yes, 2022) into a downmarket version of Mumbai and, by the look of it, run by Democrats. The usual odd pair of detectives comprises Robert Thorn (handsome tough guy Charlton Heston, after he got into his Moses robes) and Edward G, Robinson as his clapped-out pal Sol Roth, who complains, \u201d How can anyone survive in a climate like this, a heatwave all year long, the greenhouse effect, everything is burning up!\u201d&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_edn1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In&nbsp;<em>Soylent Green<\/em>&nbsp;the usual evil corporation has monopolised half the world\u2019s food supply and provides the masses with edible Soylent Red and Soylent Yellow wafers about the size of domino tiles, made from lentils and soybeans. It has introduced a Soylent Green chip which everyone finds so delicious they riot to get a share each Tuesday.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"560\" height=\"313\" data-attachment-id=\"339222\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=339222\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/image-213.png?fit=560%2C313&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"560,313\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/image-213.png?fit=560%2C313&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/image-213.png?resize=560%2C313&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-339222\" style=\"width:698px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/image-213.png?w=560&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/image-213.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Without wanting to spoil the plot,&nbsp;<em>Soylent Green<\/em>&nbsp;is not made from tasty plankton as labelled, but from humans scooped off the streets by riot trucks. Today (2024) human ready-to-eat chips have not eventuated, but the 1973 film\u2019s forecast was spot on about New York\u2019s imperilled electricity. Sol Roth says he has to pedal a stationary bike \u201chalf way around the world\u201d to power the pair\u2019s sole light bulb and charge up their room\u2019s battery . Rusted petrol-powered cars litter the streets&nbsp; Havana-style (but I didn\u2019t detect any EVs).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With uncanny prescience the film also foretells the inflation from President Biden\u2019s Inflation Reduction Act, with a few vegetables and two jars of sauce on offer for $US279.15. A smoker\u2019s fantasy goes, \u201cIf I had the money I\u2019d smoke two or three of these every day!\u201d The film also flunks computer-ology, with the heroine 50 years out from 1973 enjoying an arcade Computer Space tussle on a little screen. She chortles, \u201cI demolished five saucers with one rock!\u201d<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_edn2\">[2]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the downside, beautiful young women have become \u201cFurniture\u201d for toxic male apartment owners. One owner says, \u201cWe give them a day off every month, you would think they would be grateful.\u201d To seduce Charlton Heston, another Furniture Lady promises \u201cto turn that air conditioning up all the way, I will make it cold like winter used to be.\u201d Heston replies, \u201cYou are a hell of a piece of furniture.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For some reason all the corpses on Dr Evil\u2019s conveyor belt remain in cloth shrouds as they\u2019re processed into wafers, which must give Soylent Green, however delicious, a cottony taint.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Reviewers were scathing: the&nbsp;<em>New Yorker<\/em>&nbsp;said the \u201cpompously prophetic thing of a film hasn\u2019t a brain in its beanbag.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While New York human-sourced wafers circa 2022 are interesting, my editor is always keen on local angles on cannibalism. There does happen to be one involving the Western Sydney University PhD thesis of Jungian psychotherapist&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/au.linkedin.com\/in\/sally-gillespie-b5752480\">Dr Sally Gillespie<\/a>, stalwart of the Melbourne-founded&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.psychologyforasafeclimate.org\/who-are-we\/\">Psychology for a Safe Climate<\/a>&nbsp;band of sisters. It\u2019s titled&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/researchdirect.westernsydney.edu.au\/\">Mapping Myths, Dreams and Conversations in the Era of Global Warming<\/a>&nbsp;but sadly is no longer publicly accessible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For scholarly purposes she created a seven-member group of mainly excitable women, some 50-plus, to share their climate-apocalypse dreams \u2013 \u201cfellow crew members sailing a vessel of inquiry.\u201d It\u2019s thrilling to discover what makes climate feminists tick. By their second meeting they\u2019re fantasising about surviving \u201csystemic collapse.\u201d They suspect their present core values might alter. For example, \u201cstories of cannibalism are shared\u201d (p106).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Dr Sally:<\/strong>&nbsp;I wonder what those stories are serving for us at the moment, in teasing us into these questions. Not only the literal question: would I eat someone else or not? [but] what\u2019s the value of human life and culture and society?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2021\/09\/the-strange-thoughts-of-catastropharians\/#_edn3\">As I wrote at the time<\/a>, if you\u2019re on the plump side and walking up Alexandra Parade, Fitzroy, cross the median strip if Sally\u2019s team\u2019s is coming. You just never know!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That reminds me of another academic, a Swedish professor asking a conference audience about their willingness to eat human corpses. What precisely went on there is in dispute, and I\u2019ll do my best below to get you the facts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The professor is &nbsp;behavioural scientist and marketer with the Stockholm School of Economics. He allegedly told a Gastro Summit in Stockholm on September 3, 2019, that we could combat global warming by eating corpses. This could help save the human race if only people would \u201cawaken the idea\u201d. Using a Powerpoint display, he acknowledged that the project would need to overcome many taboos, and said it could be more plausible to eat insects and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2019\/09\/09\/scientist-suggests-eating-human-flesh-to-fight-climate-change\/\">your pet cats and dogs<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tackled in the international hullaballoo, he said he\u2019d been misquoted. He told Swedish TV4 in an interview the same day that he had merely been gauging how far consumers would go in terms of breaking taboos in the context of global warming.<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_edn3\">[3]<\/a>&nbsp;Just a marketing man\u2019s hypothetical, in other words, and what\u2019s more, the google-translate of his Swedish was rough.<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_edn4\">[4]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well, said the sceptics, let\u2019s see your notes, your Powerpoint and that video of your talk, and we\u2019ll get them translated. But the video is unavailable and Professor Soderlund had no notes to provide. His Powerpoint was not readily available \u201cfor technical reasons,\u201d he said. I can\u2019t imagine what those technical reasons might be. The conference people might have deleted their electronic copy and he might have lost his USB stick, but wouldn\u2019t the file still be on a home or office computer where he created it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The left-wing oracle for exposing urban myths is&nbsp;<em>snopes.com<\/em>. You can bet your life they wanted to debunk the mockery of climate alarmists.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.snopes.com\/fact-check\/swedish-scientist-cannibalism\/\">S\u00f6derlund emailed&nbsp;<em>snopes<\/em><\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>I believe that the issue has somehow been hijacked by people who do not believe that global warming and other climate issues should be taken seriously \u2014 and, given this, it may indeed be useful to refer to events indicating that climate activists have completely crazy ideas (such as that we should eat each other). Just for the record: I do not want to eat human meat, I do not want to be eaten, I do not think that eating humans influences the climate, I am not an activist, I am just a researcher who thinks that it must be possible to ask questions about also the dark sides of what we humans do and do not do.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But without the video and Powerpoint, and given Soderlund\u2019s denials,&nbsp;<em>snopes\u2019<\/em>&nbsp;reluctant verdict on true-or-false was, \u201cMixture\u201d.&nbsp;<em>Snopes<\/em>&nbsp;notwithstanding, the reporter for the right-of-centre&nbsp;<em>Epoch Times<\/em>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theepochtimes.com\/opinion\/swedish-researcher-pushes-human-flesh-eating-as-answer-to-future-climate-change-food-shortages-3068833\">Swedish-speaking Celia Farber<\/a>,<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_edn5\">[5]<\/a>&nbsp;who broke the story, had clearly seen Soderlund\u2019s video presentation. She wrote<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In his talk, Soderlund&nbsp;asks the audience how many would be open to the idea. Not many hands go up. Some groaning is heard. When interviewed after his talk, he reports brightly that 8 percent of conference participants said they would be open to trying it. When asked if he himself would try it, he replies, \u201cI feel somewhat hesitant but to not appear overly conservative \u2026 I\u2018d have to say \u2026 I\u2019d be open to at least tasting it.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The logo for the talk, titled \u201cFood of the Future: Worms, Grasshoppers, or Human Flesh,\u201d featured a splash of blood as part of the graphic design. Marketing blurbs were<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Are we humans too selfish to live sustainably? Is cannibalism the solution to food sustainability in the future? At GastroSummit, you will get some answers to these questions\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In any event, Soderlund\u2019s premise was that global food supply was on the brink of disaster, which like most or all previous climate predictions is baloney. Food output and yields&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2023\/05\/25\/record-world-cereal-outputs-forecast-for-2023-24\/\">continue to feed population growth<\/a>. Output can keep rising (even without greater land use) through better harvest logistics, \u201csmart\u201d targeted use of water and fertilisers, innovation spread among peasants via mobile phones and AI, and so on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019d like to say this is the last word on cannibalism and climate, but it ain\u2019t. There\u2019s a veritable industry of academics out there specialising in alarm about how global warming will accelerate cannibalism among a vast variety of non-homo sapien species. This industry\u2019s motto should be \u201cAll warming is bad, even in Melbourne\u201d (top temp today: 12degC).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Without even trying I\u2019ve turned up dire climate cannibalism papers about&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.huffpost.com\/entry\/lobster-cannibalism_n_3676026\">lobsters<\/a>&nbsp;(<em>aka<\/em>&nbsp;\u201cAttack of the cannibal lobsters\u201d),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/cosmosmagazine.com\/history\/archaeology\/warm-weather-pushed-neanderthals-into-cannibalism\/#:~:text=A%20rapid%20period%20of%20warming,cannibalism)%2C%20new%20research%20suggests.\">six unfortunate Neaderthals<\/a>, glaucos-winged seagulls (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nsf.gov\/awardsearch\/showAward?AWD_ID=1407564&amp;HistoricalAwards=false\">$US300,000 grant and two PhD dissertations<\/a>),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wildlife.org\/wild-cam-climate-change-may-exacerbate-salamander-cannibalism\/#:~:text=That%20research%20revealed%20that%20Arizona,tiger%20salamanders%2C%20according%20to%20Ocampo.\">Arizona tiger salamanders<\/a>&nbsp;(water lizards),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/royalsocietypublishing.org\/doi\/10.1098\/rsbl.2017.0175\">damselflies<\/a>&nbsp;(little dragonfly lookalikes),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ecowatch.com\/polar-bears-cannibalism-2645309286.html\">polar bears<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dailycampus.com\/2016\/11\/04\/2016-11-4-caddisfly-turned-cannibal-how-climate-change-could-affect-animal-behavior\/\">caddisflies<\/a>&nbsp;(\u201cvery hairy\u201d),&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/source.wustl.edu\/2020\/05\/wolf-spiders-may-turn-to-cannibalism-in-a-warming-arctic\/#:~:text=Wolf%20spiders%20in%20a%20warming,Including%20other%20spiders.\">wolf spiders<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/news\/crustacean-decimation-due-climate-change-143329405.html#:~:text=Crustacean%20Decimation%20Due%20to%20Climate%2DChange%2DDriven%20Cannibalization,-Aryn%20Baker&amp;text=Snow%20crab%20legs%2C%20the%20pale,the%20first%20time%20in%20history\">Alaskan snow crabs<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-13322803\/david-attenborough-bbc-mammals-saddest-scene-arctic-foxes.html\">Arctic foxes<\/a>&nbsp;and, last but not least,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/science-and-health\/2021-06-06\/ty-article\/.premium\/cannibal-wind-farms-beating-earths-orbit-and-other-climate-change-briefs\/0000017f-e566-d97e-a37f-f76722860000\">wind farms<\/a>&nbsp;(when they eat up each others\u2019 downstream windiness).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Well , enough on cannibalism. I call out to my wife, \u201cPlenty of potatoes with the roast tonight!\u201d Wife replies, \u201cNo need, I\u2019ve got Swedes\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Tony Thomas\u2019s latest book from Connor Court is&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><strong>Anthem of the Unwoke \u2013 Yep! The other lot\u2019s gone bonkers<em>. $34.95 from Connor Court&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au\/ANTHEM-OF-THE-UNWOKE-%E2%80%94Yep-the-other-lot%E2%80%99s-gone-bonkers--Tony-Thomas_p_513.html\"><strong>here<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_ednref1\">[1]<\/a>&nbsp;A curiosity is that in 1973 the climate science hive-mind was in fear of global cooling. If you doubt that, see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/qed\/2015\/12\/scientists-still-science\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_ednref2\">[2]<\/a>&nbsp;This was the 1970s era\u2019s first depiction on screen of a computer game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr Gillespie\u2019s book \u2018Climate Crisis and Consciousness: Re-imagining our world and ourselves\u2019 \u201cdraws upon my professional background as a Jungian psychotherapist and my doctoral research into&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.routledge.com\/authors\/i19683-sally-gillespie\">the psychological terrain of ongoing engagement with climate crisis<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_ednref3\">[3]<\/a>&nbsp;Soderlund, asked in the interview if he\u2019d eat human flesh himself, replied that he\u2019d \u201cbe open to at least tasting it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_ednref4\">[4]<\/a>&nbsp;In&nbsp;<em>snopes<\/em>\u2018 translation of Soderlund\u2019s TV4 interview, the interviewer asked how likely he thought it was that eating human flesh would catch on, in the same way that&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/07\/you-will-eat-bugs-you-will-enjoy-them\/\">eating insects<\/a>&nbsp;has been&nbsp;touted&nbsp;as a&nbsp;possible&nbsp;means to lower carbon emissions and combat food shortages. He thought cannibalism was unlikely to become appealing, having an even greater \u201cyuck\u201d factor than eating insects. He added: \u201cBut if we need to turn over every stone when it comes to climate and sustainability, it\u2019s still worth raising this question.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/quadrant.org.au\/opinion\/doomed-planet\/2024\/08\/whatever-will-climateers-cook-up-next\/#_ednref5\">[5]<\/a>&nbsp;Celia Farber is a Swedish-American writer with a background in magazine reportage and investigative reporting. She has written for Harper\u2019s Magazine, Esquire, Rolling Stone, and others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Among the inspirational spokesfolk sermonising about saving the planet from fossil fuels are actress Jane Fonda and ex-husband Ted Turner (2024 net worth $US2.5 billion). Jane ditched Ted in 2001 after 10 years marriage, leaving Ted so heart-broken that he needed a quartet of girlfriends for consolation. 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