{"id":333498,"date":"2024-06-21T16:31:48","date_gmt":"2024-06-21T14:31:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333498"},"modified":"2024-06-21T16:31:50","modified_gmt":"2024-06-21T14:31:50","slug":"net-zero-will-prevent-almost-zero-warming-say-three-top-atmospheric-scientists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333498","title":{"rendered":"Net Zero Will Prevent Almost Zero Warming, Say Three Top Atmospheric Scientists"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"482\" data-attachment-id=\"333501\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333501\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?fit=2048%2C1365&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1365\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0shutterstock_2116481687-2048&amp;#215;1365-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?fit=723%2C482&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=723%2C482&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333501\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=1536%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?resize=1200%2C800&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/dailysceptic.org\/2024\/06\/20\/net-zero-will-prevent-almost-zero-warming-say-three-top-atmospheric-scientists\/#comments\">The Daily Sceptic<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">BY\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dailysceptic.org\/author\/chris-morrison\/\">CHRIS MORRISON<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Recent calculations by the distinguished atmospheric scientists Richard Lindzen, William Happer and William van Wijngaarden suggest that if the entire world eliminated net carbon dioxide emissions by 2050 it would avert warming of an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/co2coalition.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Net-Zero-Averted-Temperature-Increase-2024-06-11.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">almost unmeasurable 0.07\u00b0C<\/a>. Even assuming the climate modelled feedbacks and temperature opinions of the politicised Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the rise would be only 0.28\u00b0C. Year Zero would have been achieved along with the destruction of economic and social life for eight billion people on Planet Earth. \u201cIt would be hard to find a better example of a policy of all pain and no gain,\u201d note the scientists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the U.K., the current General Election is almost certain to be won by a party that is committed to outright warfare on hydrocarbons. The Labour party will attempt to \u2018decarbonise\u2019 the electricity grid by the end of the decade without any realistic instant backup for unreliable wind and solar except oil and gas. Britain is sitting on huge reserves of hydrocarbons but new exploration is to be banned. It is hard to think of a more ruinous energy policy, but the Conservative governing party is little better. Led by the hapless May, a woman over-promoted since her time running the education committee on Merton Council, through to Buffo Boris and Washed-Out Rishi, its leaders have drunk the eco Kool-Aid fed to them by the likes of Roger Hallam, Extinction Rebellion and the Swedish Doom Goblin. Adding to the mix in the new Parliament will be a likely 200 new \u2018Labour\u2019 recruits with university degrees in buggerallology and CVs full of parasitical non-jobs in the public sector.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hardly any science knowledge between them, they even believe that they can spend billions of other people\u2019s money to capture CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;\u2013 perfectly good plant fertiliser \u2013 and bury it in the ground. As a privileged, largely middle class group, they have net zero understanding of how a modern industrial society works, feeds itself and creates the wealth that pays their unnecessary wages. All will be vying to save the planet and stop a temperature rise that is barely a rounding error on any long-term view.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">They plan to cull the farting cows, sow wild flowers where food once grew, take away efficient gas boilers and internal combustion cars and stop granny visiting her grandchildren in the United States. On a wider front, banning hydrocarbons will&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dailysceptic.org\/2024\/04\/19\/how-many-billions-of-people-would-die-under-net-zero\/\">remove almost everything<\/a>&nbsp;from a modern society including many medicines, building materials, fertilisers, plastics and cleaning products. It might be shorter and easier to list essential items where hydrocarbons are absent than produce one where they are present. Anyone who dissents from their absurd views is said to be in league with fossil fuel interests, a risible suggestion given that they themselves are dependent on hydrocarbon producers to sustain their enviable lifestyles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unlike politicians the world over who rant about fire and brimstone, Messrs Lindzen, Happer and van Wijngaarden pay close attention to actual climate observations and analyses of the data. Since it is impossible to determine how much of the gentle warming of the last two centuries is natural or caused by higher levels of CO<sub>2<\/sub>, they assume a \u2018climate sensitivity\u2019 \u2013 rise in temperature when CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;doubles in the atmosphere \u2013 of 0.8\u00b0C. This is about four times less than IPCC estimates, which lacks any proof. Understandably the IPCC does not make a big issue of this lack of crucial proof at the heart of the so-called 97%&nbsp;anthropogenic \u2018consensus\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The 0.8\u00b0C estimate is based on the idea that greenhouse gases like CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dailysceptic.org\/2024\/04\/24\/new-scientific-evidence-that-co2-emissions-cant-warm-atmosphere-because-it-is-saturated-published-in-peer-reviewed-journal\/\">\u2018saturate\u2019 at certain levels<\/a>&nbsp;and their warming effect falls off a logarithmic cliff. This idea has the advantage of explaining climate records that stretch back 600 million years since CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;levels have been up to 10-15 times higher in the past compared with the extremely low levels observed today. There is little if any long term causal link between temperature and CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;over time. In the immediate past record there is evidence that CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;rises after natural increases in temperature as the gas is released from warmer oceans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Any argument that the Earth has a \u2018boiling\u2019 problem caused by the small CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;contribution that humans make by using hydrocarbons is \u2018settled\u2019 by an invented political crisis, but is backed by no reliable observational data. Most of the fear-mongering is little more than a circular exercise using computer models with improbable opinions fed in, and improbable opinions fed out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The three scientists use a simple formula using base-two logarithms to assess the CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;influence on the atmosphere based on decades of laboratory experiments and atmospheric data collection. They demonstrate how trivial the effect on global temperature will be if humanity stops using hydrocarbons. After years wasted listening to Greta Thunberg, the message is starting to penetrate the political arena. In the United States, the Net Zero project is dead in the water if Trump wins the Presidential election. In Europe, the ruling political elites, both national and supranational, are retreating on their Net Zero commitments. Reality is starting to dawn and alternative political groupings emerge to challenge the comfortable insanity of Net Zero virtue signalling. In New Zealand, the nightmare of the Ardern years is being expunged with a roll back of Net Zero policies ahead of possible electricity black outs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Only in Britain it seems are citizens prepared to elect a Government obsessed with self-inflicted poverty and deindustrialisation. The only major political grouping committed to scrapping Net Zero is the Nigel Farage-led Reform party and although it could beat the ruling Conservatives into second place in the popular vote, it is unlikely to secure many Parliamentary seats under the U.K.\u2019s first-past-the-post electoral system. Only a few years ago the Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, who thinks some women have penises, and his imbecilic Deputy Leader Angela Rayner, were bending the knee to an organisation that wanted to cut funding for the police and fling open the borders. The new British Parliament will have plenty of people who still support Net Zero and assorted woke woo woo, and the great tragedy is that they will still be found across most of the represented political parties.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Chris Morrison is the<\/em>&nbsp;Daily Sceptic<em>\u2019s<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Environment Editor.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recent calculations by the distinguished atmospheric scientists Richard Lindzen, William Happer and William van Wijngaarden suggest that if the entire world eliminated net carbon dioxide emissions by 2050 it would avert warming of an\u00a0almost unmeasurable 0.07\u00b0C. Even assuming the climate modelled feedbacks and temperature opinions of the politicised Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the rise would be only 0.28\u00b0C. Year Zero would have been achieved along with the destruction of economic and social life for eight billion people on Planet Earth. \u201cIt would be hard to find a better example of a policy of all pain and no gain,\u201d note the scientists.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":333501,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691827130,691819134,691828573,691818154,691819057,691829320,691820151],"class_list":{"0":"post-333498","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-carbon-dioxide-co2","9":"tag-climate-alarmism","10":"tag-dr-william-happer","11":"tag-net-zero","12":"tag-richard-lindzen","13":"tag-saturation","14":"tag-the-science","16":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0shutterstock_2116481687-2048x1365-1.jpg?fit=2048%2C1365&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1oL0","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":332868,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=332868","url_meta":{"origin":333498,"position":0},"title":"Net Zero Averted Temperature Increase","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"14\/06\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Many people are surprised by how little warming would be averted from adoption of net zero policies. 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