{"id":333406,"date":"2024-06-20T17:26:47","date_gmt":"2024-06-20T15:26:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333406"},"modified":"2024-06-20T17:26:50","modified_gmt":"2024-06-20T15:26:50","slug":"renewables-vs-environment-hans-wolkers-humbles-climate-reality-project-kahli-burke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333406","title":{"rendered":"Renewables vs. Environment: Hans Wolkers humbles Climate Reality Project, Kahli Burke"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"461\" data-attachment-id=\"333412\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333412\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?fit=1200%2C765&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,765\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0the-climate-reality-project\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?fit=723%2C461&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?resize=723%2C461&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333412\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?resize=1024%2C653&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?resize=300%2C191&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?resize=768%2C490&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0the-climate-reality-project.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/renewable-downsides\/renewables-vs-environment-wolkers-burke\/\">Master Resource<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>By Robert Bradley Jr.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAnd this is just the beginning. Large-scale deployment of \u2018renewables\u2019 will result in an ecological disaster.\u201d (Hans Wolkers, PhD., below)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate alarmists are having a hard time on the business social media giant LinkedIn. Previous posts have documented the one-sided alarmism of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/debate-issues\/skeptical-science-gets-comeuppance-on-social-media\/\">Skeptical Science<\/a>; a case of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/climate-violence\/uk-climate-thug-10-months-jp-morgan-chase\/\">climate thuggery<\/a>; an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/debate-issues\/ad-hominem-backfire-energy-climate-debate\/\">ad hominem backfire<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/debate-issues\/phd-data-climate-scientist-flunks-linkedin\/\">time-series data evasion<\/a>; ExxonMobil \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/exxon-mobil\/fired-climate-alarmist-exxon\/\">whistleblowing<\/a>\u201c; and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/linkedin-climate-energy-debates\/enron-greenpeace-martin-porter-exchange\/\">Greenpeace and Enron<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is time to add to this list. The Climate Reality Project&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/the-climate-reality-project_cleanenergy-leadonclimate-saveourplanet-activity-7207411488163016704-zzGv?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop\">posted<\/a>&nbsp;this message and picture on LinkedIn:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have a responsibility to lead the way in advocating for\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?keywords=cleanenergy&amp;highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704\">hashtag#cleanenergy<\/a>\u00a0and climate action. Together, we will create a brighter future for ourselves and generations to come.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?keywords=leadonclimate&amp;highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?keywords=leadonclimate&amp;highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704\">hashtag#LeadOnClimate<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?keywords=saveourplanet&amp;highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/hashtag\/?keywords=saveourplanet&amp;highlightedUpdateUrns=urn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704\">hashtag#saveourplanet<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"333408\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333408\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?fit=975%2C975&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"975,975\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-424\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?fit=723%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=723%2C723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333408\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?w=975&amp;ssl=1 975w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-424.png?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207416553095454721%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207416553095454721%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">responded<\/a>: \u201cThat child must wonder about industrializing the green space. Pretty gross\u2026.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the real debate followed between&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/hans-wolkers-90569117\/\">Hans Wolkers<\/a>, science journalist, photographer, and writer at Wild Frontiers BV, and PhD physicist\/data scientist&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kahli-burke-a575444\/\">Kahli Burke<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wolkers is the real deal, with vast publications and a PhD in Physiology, Toxicology, and Wildlife management from Utrecht University. No ad hominem attacks on him\u2026. Burke posits climate pessimism but, like fellow data scientist&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterresource.org\/debate-issues\/phd-data-climate-scientist-flunks-linkedin\/\">Lindsey Gulden<\/a>, does not want to investigate time-series data on weather extremes to make his case. Burke also focuses on oil-versus-the-environment to promote Net Zero, with little interest in the downsides of wind, solar, and batteries.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014-<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hans Wolkers&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207465228089896961%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207465228089896961%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">stated<\/a>&nbsp;in regard to the Climate Reality Project post above:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This post is fake news and highly misleading.<br><br>Unfortunately, your \u2018clean\u2019 energy is by far not clean at all. Any clue how much destructive mining has to take place to harvest all materials needed? Often done by the very poor and children (Congo cobalt). On top of that, wind turbine blades contain 150 M3 of balsawood each, leading to deforestation in the tropics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>Then there\u2019s the space issue: \u2018renewables\u2019 use a lot of space, and often forests are cut down to make room for solar and wind parks. Operating these \u2018renewables\u2019 comes with massive impacts on animals, disruption of sea currents, release of toxic compounds (Bisphenol A). All these claims are backed up by peer reviewed publications.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kahli Burke,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207465228089896961%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207571939542921216%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207465228089896961%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207571939542921216%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">answered<\/a>: \u201cand what is the destructive impact of fossil fuel extraction and use? Care to compare numbers?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nrdc.org\/sites\/default\/files\/tar-sands-health-effects-IB.pdf\">https:\/\/www.nrdc.org\/sites\/default\/files\/tar-sands-health-effects-IB.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wolkers&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207465228089896961%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207629778156171266%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207465228089896961%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207629778156171266%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">responded<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are some extremes in oil extraction too, for example leaking pipe lines in Nigeria, plans to extract oil in Virunga National Park\u2026. Actually, the government obliges the oil boys to remediate the tar sands after the oil has been removed. In Norway, oil and gas extraction has a negligible impact: the technology is clean. I have been involved in environmental impact assessments, and there is no measurable effect. So the place and methods do matter. Unfortunately, extraction and processing of minerals is without any exception a highly destructive and polluting process. On top of that, they are found in places that often are pristine, there\u2019s child and slave labor involved\u2026\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5<\/a>;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0nLCENfWfAg\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0nLCENfWfAg<\/a><br><br>On top of the mining issues, there\u2019s a whole list of impacts on man, nature and environment that, with the exponential scale these things are rolled out, will inevitably lead to huge environmental impacts. Not just opinion, peer reviewed sources that support this statement.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"362\" data-attachment-id=\"333410\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333410\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?fit=1742%2C871&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1742,871\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-425\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?fit=723%2C362&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=723%2C362&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333410\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=1024%2C512&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=300%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=768%2C384&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=1536%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?resize=1200%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?w=1742&amp;ssl=1 1742w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-425.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5?error=cookies_not_supported&amp;code=d792b71c-912b-4500-88d1-3c604194d08a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Renewable energy production will exacerbate mining threats to biodiver\u2026<\/a><\/u><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5?error=cookies_not_supported&amp;code=d792b71c-912b-4500-88d1-3c604194d08a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">nature.com<\/a><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With his opponent quiet, Wolkers elevates the argument against Burke with his references.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207416553095454721%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207722899741257728%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207416553095454721%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207722899741257728%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">Part I<\/a>: So are the impacts of \u2018renewables\u2019. They directly destroy ecosystems, while mining in sensitive areas will be increased big time:<br><br>Effects of renewable operation:<br><br>1. ecosystems + insects:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/348790564_Insect_fatalities_at_wind_turbines_as_biodiversity_sinks\">https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/348790564_Insect_fatalities_at_wind_turbines_as_biodiversity_sinks<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41559-018-0707-z\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41559-018-0707-z<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.science.org\/doi\/10.1126\/science.abf6509\">https:\/\/www.science.org\/doi\/10.1126\/science.abf6509<\/a><br><br>2. Sea currents:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.frontiersin.org\/articles\/10.3389\/fmars.2022.818501\/full\">https:\/\/www.frontiersin.org\/articles\/10.3389\/fmars.2022.818501\/full<\/a><br><br>3. mining damage\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5<\/a><br><br>4. Bottom organism\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.mdpi.com\/2077-1312\/9\/7\/776\">https:\/\/www.mdpi.com\/2077-1312\/9\/7\/776<\/a><br><br>5.Birds, whales:\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/full\/10.1002\/ece3.6360\">https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/full\/10.1002\/ece3.6360<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/1365-2656.12961\">https:\/\/besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/1365-2656.12961<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/royalsocietypublishing.org\/doi\/full\/10.1098\/rsos.211558\">https:\/\/royalsocietypublishing.org\/doi\/full\/10.1098\/rsos.211558<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5?error=cookies_not_supported&amp;code=d792b71c-912b-4500-88d1-3c604194d08a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-020-17928-5?error=cookies_not_supported&amp;code=d792b71c-912b-4500-88d1-3c604194d08a\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a>6. Infrasound:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\">https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553<\/a><br><br>7. Bisphenol A\/fine dust:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.windwiki.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Leading-Edge-erosion-and-pollution-from-wind-turbine-blades_5_july_English.pdf\">https:\/\/www.windwiki.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Leading-Edge-erosion-and-pollution-from-wind-turbine-blades_5_july_English.pdf<\/a><br><br>8. Low E density \u2013> huge space requirements:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/aae102\">https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/aae102<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41598-022-25341-9\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41598-022-25341-9<\/a><br><br>9. Wind turbines and solar parks \u2013> climate effects\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s43247-023-01117-5\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s43247-023-01117-5<\/a><br><br>And this is just the beginning. Large-scale deployment of \u2018renewables\u2019 will result in an ecological disaster.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><strong><u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Impairment of the Endothelium and Disorder of Microcirculation in Huma\u2026<\/a><\/u><\/strong>&nbsp;<strong><u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/journal\/paperinformation?paperid=125553\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">scirp.org<\/a><\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kahli Burke then&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207416553095454721%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207939322920992768%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207416553095454721%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207939322920992768%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">turns<\/a>&nbsp;to the quality of journals in response to Wolkers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not all journals are of equal quality. Not every website that claims to be a scientific journal is really what it claims to be. Please read about the SciRP journal which your first link takes me to\u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for the other papers, I\u2019m not making a claim that all non fossil fuel energy is perfect. However compared to the alternative, assuming that you would have a world in which humans continue to use electricity and energy, they are superior. That\u2019s not a statement which grants them immunity from awareness and mitigation of their impacts. I believe there are many opportunities to improve these technologies going forward. Personally I believe nuclear should be in the mix too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However it\u2019s impossible to solve the problems at hand by burning more fossil fuels, the transition needs to occur in order to prevent CO2 levels from increasing\u2026.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To which Wolkers&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7207411488163016704?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207416553095454721%29&amp;replyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7207411488163016704%2C7207992306157678592%29&amp;dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207416553095454721%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29&amp;dashReplyUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287207992306157678592%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7207411488163016704%29\">responds<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s too easy to discredit journals based on such evaluations. You need to realize too that several journals have decided to ban publications that don\u2019t fit the CO2 narrative and celebrate the renewable hype. I don\u2019t see that \u2018renewables\u2019 are in any way superior: they require lots of space and material, are intermittent and thus unreliable: they need solid back up. Depending on which calculations you believe, and what factors you include, they are more expensive. As we speak, the impact is just unacceptably large, but due to government subsidies, a refusal to include their impact in the decision-making process, the deployment just continues\u2026.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And the debate rests. Both Burke and Wolkers point to nuclear power as the best option, but a lot of downsides to wind, solar, and batteries were put in the lap of Burke. He should think about it in terms of the practicality and desirability of Net Zero in a world of tradeoffs. As Wolkers noted, the \u2018energy transformation\u2019 (not) has barely started.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Climate alarmists are having a hard time on the business social media giant LinkedIn. 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It is up to 458 follows. And see if this organization will simply prepare an entry on what \u2018skeptic\u2019 arguments are the best. With that middle ground, maybe we can have a real debate.\u201d","rel":"","context":"In \"Climate change\"","block_context":{"text":"Climate change","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=climate-change"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0-misinformation.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0-misinformation.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0-misinformation.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0-misinformation.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0-misinformation.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":366050,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=366050","url_meta":{"origin":333406,"position":1},"title":"Climate Advocacy, not Scholarship: UNLV Professor Leffel at Work","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"14\/02\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Yes! End federal grants and spare the taxpayer! 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