{"id":333199,"date":"2024-06-17T17:00:04","date_gmt":"2024-06-17T15:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333199"},"modified":"2024-06-17T17:00:08","modified_gmt":"2024-06-17T15:00:08","slug":"redressing-antarctic-glacier-porn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=333199","title":{"rendered":"Redressing Antarctic Glacier\u00a0Porn"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"333224\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333224\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?fit=1920%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/00Thwaites_Hero.width-2000.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2024\/06\/16\/redressing-antarctic-glacier-porn\/\">Science Matters <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/author\/ronaldrc\/\">Ron Clutz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"634\" height=\"356\" data-attachment-id=\"333201\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333201\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-370.png?fit=634%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"634,356\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-370\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-370.png?fit=634%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-370.png?resize=634%2C356&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333201\" style=\"width:760px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-370.png?w=634&amp;ssl=1 634w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-370.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>With the potential to raise global sea levels, Antarctica\u2019s Thwaites Glacier has been widely nicknamed the \u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate alarmists are known to recycle memes to frighten the public into supporting their agenda. The climate news control desk calls the plays and the media fills the air and print with the scare du jour.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"716\" data-attachment-id=\"333202\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333202\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?fit=850%2C842&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"850,842\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-371\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?fit=723%2C716&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?resize=723%2C716&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?w=850&amp;ssl=1 850w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?resize=300%2C297&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?resize=768%2C761&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-371.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018Doomsday glacier\u2019 rapid melt could lead to higher sea level rise than thought: study<br><strong>Vancouver Sun<\/strong>&nbsp;on MSN.com<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Thwaites \u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019 in Antarctica is melting much faster than predicted<br><strong>USA Today<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For the first time, there\u2019s visual evidence warm sea water is pushing under doomsday glacier: Study<br><strong>CBC.ca&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019 Explained: Why Scientists Believe It Predicts Devastating Sea Levels\u2014Which Might Happen Faster Than Thought<br><strong>Forbes<\/strong>&nbsp;on MSN.com<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Scientists worry so-called \u201cDoomsday Glacier\u201d is near collapse, satellite data reveals<br><strong>Yahoo<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The doomsday glacier is undergoing \u201cvigorous ice melt\u201d that could reshape sea level rise projections<br><strong>CBS News<\/strong>&nbsp;on MSN.com<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019ve underestimated the \u2018Doomsday\u2019 glacier \u2013 and the consequences could be devastating<br><strong>The Independent<\/strong>&nbsp;on MSN.com<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Etc., Etc., Etc.,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This torrent of concern was on the front burner in 2022, rested for awhile, and now it\u2019s back.&nbsp; Below is what you need to know and not be bamboozled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"1023\" data-attachment-id=\"333204\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333204\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?fit=2480%2C3508&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2480,3508\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-372\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?fit=723%2C1023&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=723%2C1023&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=724%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 724w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=212%2C300&amp;ssl=1 212w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=768%2C1086&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=1086%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1086w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=1448%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1448w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?resize=1200%2C1697&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-372.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A Primer on Antarctic Ice Shelves Including Thwaites Glacier<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">William D. Balgord explains the glacier dynamics in his Townhall article&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/townhall.com\/columnists\/williamdbalgord\/2024\/06\/15\/fracturing-thwaites-ice-shelf-just-a-normal-function-of-nature-n2640346\"><strong>Fracturing Thwaites Ice-Shelf\u2013Just a Normal Function of Nature.<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp; Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>The West Antarctic ice sheet and<\/strong>&nbsp;its subsidiary&nbsp;<strong>Thwaites glacier overlie an active volcanic region<\/strong>&nbsp;of the Earth\u2019s crust. Volcanoes are observed, from seismic observations, to be venting beneath the surface of the glacial ice. This fact is conveniently ignored by the authors.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Independent studies have implicated, not so much the impinging sea currents, but&nbsp;<strong>geothermal heat<\/strong>&nbsp;rising upward through the crust from the mantle below as the<strong>&nbsp;likely cause of the observed melting<\/strong>&nbsp;of the ice shelf<strong>&nbsp;and anticipated calving<\/strong>&nbsp;of another large block of ice. Once freed from grounding and afloat, it will be referred to as an \u201cice berg.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>But the process of melting at the terminus of a glacier, whether it be on land or at the edge of the ocean needs to be properly understood.&nbsp;<strong>Glacial ice flows (very slowly) down gradient<\/strong>&nbsp;under the influence of gravity (it behaves somewhat akin to a viscous fluid). In the instance of glaciers in Antarctica and Greenland, they continue their downhill courses&nbsp;<strong>until meeting the ocean where melting and calving of icebergs occur.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>On arrival&nbsp;<strong>at the shoreline,<\/strong>&nbsp;the outward flow of ice, urged oceanward by additional glacial ice arriving behind it,<strong>&nbsp;forms an ice shelf<\/strong>&nbsp;often extending some distance out over the adjoining sea. The glacier behind continues to push outward until a portion of the shelf finally&nbsp;<strong>weakens and develops a crack.<\/strong>&nbsp;The crack deepens and a block of ice, if not securely grounded to land,<strong>&nbsp;breaks free and floats away as an iceberg.<\/strong>&nbsp;The \u2018berg then melts in warmer water as it is carried along toward the Equator by ocean currents. One such iceberg, after breaking free from Greenland in the North Atlantic, brought down the Titanic in April 1912.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">The mass of ice (water) lost by calving is continuously being made up<br>by sparse snowfall that falls across the broad expanse of<br>highlands in the interior of the continent.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In fact,<strong>\u00a0if the polar climate were to warm<\/strong>\u00a0somewhat, the\u00a0<strong>relative humidity would increase, inducing a higher precipitation<\/strong>\u00a0rate over the interior. During past warmer periods (speaking relatively for Antarctica) increased snowfall is\u00a0<strong>documented from the ice-core samples<\/strong>\u00a0taken at the interior\u00a0<strong>Vostok<\/strong>\u00a0station operated by Russian scientists.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"1023\" data-attachment-id=\"333206\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333206\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?fit=2480%2C3508&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2480,3508\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-373\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?fit=723%2C1023&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=723%2C1023&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333206\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=724%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 724w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=212%2C300&amp;ssl=1 212w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=768%2C1086&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=1086%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1086w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=1448%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1448w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?resize=1200%2C1697&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-373.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The overwhelming portion of Antarctica\u2019s landed ice is currently (and permanently) resident on the main continent that accounts for some 90% of all landed ice on the planet.&nbsp;<strong>Only the melting of landed ice would contribute to sea-level rise.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The Vostok corings also show that<strong>&nbsp;at no time during the past 600,000 years has Antarctica been ice free<\/strong>&nbsp;despite several prolonged interglacial periods when temperatures around the globe exceeded those experienced during the previous 10,000 years of the Holocene up to the present.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It is highly&nbsp;<strong>unlikely that any temperature rise<\/strong>&nbsp;that can be reasonably anticipated during the next century or two would be sufficient&nbsp;<strong>to cause significant melting of the main body of ice<\/strong>&nbsp;now covering Antarctica. The UN\/IPCC climate models are shown to be not up to the task of making reliably accurate predictions and should be discounted.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Background Post: OMG! Doomsday Glacier Melting. Again.<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate alarms often involve big numbers in far away places threatening you in your backyard.&nbsp; Today\u2019s example of such a scare comes from Daily Mail&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/sciencetech\/article-10926997\/Antarcticas-Doomsday-Glacier-melting-fast-raise-sea-levels-11ft-end-century.html\"><strong>Antarctica\u2019s \u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019 is melting at the fastest rate for 5,500 YEARS \u2013 and could raise global sea levels by up to 11 FEET, study warns.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/a>Excerpts in italics with my bolds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2018<em>Although these vulnerable glaciers were relatively stable during the past few millennia, their&nbsp;<strong>current rate of retreat is accelerating and already raising global sea level<\/strong>,\u2019 said Dr Dylan Rood of Imperial\u2019s Department of Earth Science and Engineering, who co-authored the study.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"540\" height=\"429\" data-attachment-id=\"333208\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333208\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-374.png?fit=540%2C429&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"540,429\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-374\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-374.png?fit=540%2C429&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-374.png?resize=540%2C429&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333208\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-374.png?w=540&amp;ssl=1 540w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-374.png?resize=300%2C238&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS) is home to the&nbsp;<strong>Thwaites and Pine Island glaciers<\/strong>, and has been<strong>&nbsp;thinning over the past few decades amid rising global temperatures.&nbsp;<\/strong>&nbsp;The&nbsp;<strong>Thwaites<\/strong>&nbsp;glacier currently measures 74,131 square miles (<strong>192,000 square kilometre<\/strong>s) \u2013 around the same size as Great Britain.&nbsp; Meanwhile, at 62,662 square miles (<strong>162,300 square kilometres), the Pine Island<\/strong>&nbsp;glacier is around the same size as Florida.&nbsp; Together, the pair have the&nbsp;<strong>potential to cause enormous rises in global sea level as they melt.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u2018These currently elevated rates of ice melting&nbsp;<strong>may signal that those vital arteries from the heart of the WAIS have been ruptured, leading to accelerating flow<\/strong>&nbsp;into the ocean that is potentially disastrous for future global sea level in a warming world,\u2019 Dr Rood said.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u2018We now urgently need to work out<strong>&nbsp;if it\u2019s too late to stop the bleeding<\/strong>.\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>On the Contrary<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"414\" data-attachment-id=\"333209\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333209\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?fit=1000%2C572&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1000,572\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-375\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?fit=723%2C414&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?resize=723%2C414&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?resize=300%2C172&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-375.png?resize=768%2C439&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From Volcano Active Foundation:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/volcanofoundation.org\/world-largest-volcanic-region-dicovered-antarctica\/\"><strong>West Antarctica hides almost a hundred volcanoes under the ice:<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The colossal West Antarctic ice sheet hides what appears to be&nbsp;<strong>the largest volcanic region on the planet,<\/strong>&nbsp;according to the results of a study carried out by researchers at the University of Edinburgh (UK) and reported in the journal Geological Society.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Experts have discovered as many as<strong>&nbsp;91 volcanoes under Antarctic ice<\/strong>, the largest of which is as high as Switzerland\u2019s Eiger volcano, rising 3,970 meters above sea level.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cWe found 180 peaks, but we discounted 50 because they didn\u2019t match the other data,\u201d explains Robert Bingham, co-author of the paper. They eventually found&nbsp;<strong>138 peaks<\/strong>&nbsp;under the West Antarctic ice sheet, including&nbsp;<strong>47 volcanoes already known<\/strong>&nbsp;because their peaks protrude through the ice, leaving the figure of&nbsp;<strong>91 newly discovered.<\/strong><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/poster-2.1-ice-caps-glaciers-b.png\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"580\" data-attachment-id=\"333211\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333211\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?fit=1294%2C1038&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1294,1038\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-376\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?fit=723%2C580&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?resize=723%2C580&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333211\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?resize=1024%2C821&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?resize=300%2C241&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?resize=768%2C616&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?resize=1200%2C963&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-376.png?w=1294&amp;ssl=1 1294w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong>Source: volcanofoundation with glacier locations added<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The media narrative blames glacier changes on a \u201cwarming world,\u201d code for our fault for burning fossil fuels.&nbsp; And as usual, it is lying by omission.&nbsp; Researcher chaam jamal explains in his article&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/tambonthongchai.com\/2020\/09\/18\/the-climate-science-obsession-with-the-thwaites-glacier\/\"><strong>A Climate Science Obsession with the Thwaites Glacier.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;Excerpts in italics with my bolds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"412\" data-attachment-id=\"333213\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333213\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?fit=876%2C499&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"876,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-377\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?fit=723%2C412&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?resize=723%2C412&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?w=876&amp;ssl=1 876w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?resize=300%2C171&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-377.png?resize=768%2C437&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It appears that&nbsp;<strong>costly and sophisticated research<\/strong>&nbsp;by these very dedicated climate scientists has made the amazing&nbsp;<strong>discovery that maps the deep channels on the seafloor bathymetry by which warm water reaches the underside of the Thwaites glacier<\/strong>&nbsp;and thus explains how this Doomsday glacier melts.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Yet another consideration,<strong>&nbsp;not given much attention<\/strong>&nbsp;in this research, is the issue not of identifying the channels by which the deep ocean waters flow to the bottom of the Doomsday Glacier, but of&nbsp;<strong>identifying the source of the heat that makes the water warm<\/strong>. Only if that source of heat is anthropogenic global warming caused by fossil fuel emissions that can be moderated by taking climate action,&nbsp;<strong>can the observed melt at the bottom of the Thwaites glacier be attributed to AGW climate change.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"700\" height=\"394\" data-attachment-id=\"333214\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333214\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-378.png?fit=700%2C394&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"700,394\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-378\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-378.png?fit=700%2C394&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-378.png?resize=700%2C394&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333214\" style=\"width:760px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-378.png?w=700&amp;ssl=1 700w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-378.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>However,&nbsp;<strong>no such finding is made in<\/strong>&nbsp;this research project possibly&nbsp;<strong>because these researchers know<\/strong>, as do most researchers who study Antarctica, that&nbsp;<strong>this region of Antarctica is extremely geologically active.<\/strong>&nbsp;It is located directly above the West Antarctic Rift system with&nbsp;<strong>150 active volcanoes<\/strong>&nbsp;on the sea floor and right in the middle of the<strong>&nbsp;Marie Byrd Mantle Plume<\/strong>&nbsp;with hot magma seeping up from the mantle.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ralph Alexander updates the situation in 2022 with his article&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.scienceunderattack.com\/blog\/2022\/1\/10\/no-evidence-that-thwaites-glacier-in-antarctica-is-about-to-collapse-94\"><strong>No Evidence That Thwaites Glacier in Antarctica Is about to Collapse.<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp; Excerpts in italics with my bolds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Contrary to recent widespread media reports and dire predictions by a team of earth scientists,&nbsp;<strong>Antarctica\u2019s Thwaites Glacier \u2013 the second fastest melting glacier on the continent \u2013 is not on the brink of collapse.<\/strong>&nbsp;The notion that catastrophe is imminent stems from&nbsp;<strong>a basic misunderstanding of ice sheet dynamics<\/strong>&nbsp;in West Antarctica.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Because&nbsp;<strong>the ice shelf already floats on the ocean<\/strong>, collapse of the shelf itself and release of a flotilla of icebergs wouldn\u2019t cause global sea levels to rise. But the&nbsp;<strong>researchers argue that loss of the ice shelf would speed up glacier flow,<\/strong>&nbsp;increasing the contribution to sea level rise of the Thwaites Glacier \u2013 often dubbed the \u201cdoomsday glacier\u201d \u2013 from 4% to 25%.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>But such a drastic scenario is&nbsp;<strong>highly unlikely,<\/strong>&nbsp;says geologist and UN IPCC expert reviewer Don Easterbrook. The misconception is about&nbsp;<strong>the submarine \u201cgrounding\u201d of the glacier terminus<\/strong>, the boundary between the glacier and its ice shelf extending out over the surrounding ocean, as illustrated in the next figure.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"318\" data-attachment-id=\"333216\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333216\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-379.png?fit=750%2C330&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"750,330\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-379\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-379.png?fit=723%2C318&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-379.png?resize=723%2C318&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-379.png?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-379.png?resize=300%2C132&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>A glacier is not restrained by ice at its terminus. Rather, the terminus is established by a balance between ice gains from snow accumulation and losses from melting and iceberg calving. The removal of ice beyond the terminus will not cause unstoppable collapse of either the glacier or the ice sheet behind it.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"366\" data-attachment-id=\"333218\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333218\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-380.png?fit=750%2C380&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"750,380\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-380\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-380.png?fit=723%2C366&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-380.png?resize=723%2C366&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333218\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-380.png?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-380.png?resize=300%2C152&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Other factors<\/strong>&nbsp;are important too, one of which is<strong>&nbsp;the source area<\/strong>&nbsp;of Antarctic glaciers.<strong>&nbsp;Ice draining into the Thwaites Glacier<\/strong>&nbsp;is shown in the right figure above in&nbsp;<strong>dark green<\/strong>, while ice draining into the<strong>&nbsp;Pine Island glacier<\/strong>&nbsp;is shown in light green;&nbsp;<strong>light and dark blue represent ice draining into the Ross Sea<\/strong>&nbsp;to the south of the two glaciers.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>The two glaciers between them drain only a relatively small portion<\/strong>&nbsp;of the West Antarctic ice sheet, and the<strong>&nbsp;total width<\/strong>&nbsp;of the Thwaites and Pine Island glaciers constitutes only about<strong>&nbsp;170 kilometers<\/strong>&nbsp;(100 miles)&nbsp;<strong>of the 4,000 kilometers<\/strong>&nbsp;(2,500) miles of West Antarctic coastline.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Of more importance are possible grounding lines for the glacier terminus.<\/strong>&nbsp;The retreat of the present grounding line doesn\u2019t mean an impending calamity because, as Easterbrook points out, multiple other grounding lines exist. Although the base of much of the West Antarctic ice sheet, including the Thwaites glacier, lies below sea level,<strong>&nbsp;there are at least six potential grounding lines above sea level<\/strong>, as depicted in the following figure showing the ice sheet profile. A receding glacier could stabilize at any of these lines, contrary to the claims of the recent research study.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"437\" data-attachment-id=\"333220\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=333220\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-381.png?fit=750%2C453&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"750,453\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-381\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-381.png?fit=723%2C437&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-381.png?resize=723%2C437&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-333220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-381.png?w=750&amp;ssl=1 750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-381.png?resize=300%2C181&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>As can be seen,\u00a0<strong>the deepest parts of the subglacial basin lie beneath the central portion of the ice sheet where the ice is thickest<\/strong>. What is significant is the ice thickness relative to its depth below sea level. 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Doomsday Glacier Melting","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"22\/06\/2022","format":false,"excerpt":"With the potential to raise global sea levels, Antarctica\u2019s Thwaites Glacier has been widely nicknamed the \u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019 With the potential to raise global sea levels, Antarctica\u2019s Thwaites Glacier has been widely nicknamed the \u201aDoomsday Glacier\u2018 Climate alarms often involve big numbers in far away places threatening you in your\u2026","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/0marie-byrd-mantle-plume-kamis.webp?fit=876%2C499&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/0marie-byrd-mantle-plume-kamis.webp?fit=876%2C499&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/0marie-byrd-mantle-plume-kamis.webp?fit=876%2C499&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/0marie-byrd-mantle-plume-kamis.webp?fit=876%2C499&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":234596,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=234596","url_meta":{"origin":333199,"position":3},"title":"Fieldwork starts on Thwaites Glacier \u2013 British Antarctic Survey","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"17\/12\/2022","format":false,"excerpt":"Thwaites glacier\u00a0has its own complexities, including proximity to dozens of\u00a0underwater volcanoes.","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0carte_antarctique_glacier_thwaites-9_mai_2021_v_1.jpg?fit=1200%2C849&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0carte_antarctique_glacier_thwaites-9_mai_2021_v_1.jpg?fit=1200%2C849&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0carte_antarctique_glacier_thwaites-9_mai_2021_v_1.jpg?fit=1200%2C849&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0carte_antarctique_glacier_thwaites-9_mai_2021_v_1.jpg?fit=1200%2C849&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0carte_antarctique_glacier_thwaites-9_mai_2021_v_1.jpg?fit=1200%2C849&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":432757,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=432757","url_meta":{"origin":333199,"position":4},"title":"Wrong, Daily Mail, Antarctica\u2019s Thwaites Glacier Isn\u2019t on the Road to Collapse by 2067","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"20\/03\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"The Daily Mail (DM) claims in \u201cAntarctica \u2018Doomsday Glacier\u2019 COLLAPSE by 2067\u201d that the Thwaites Glacier is on track for catastrophic failure within decades. 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