{"id":332321,"date":"2024-06-10T17:35:35","date_gmt":"2024-06-10T15:35:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=332321"},"modified":"2024-06-10T17:35:38","modified_gmt":"2024-06-10T15:35:38","slug":"huge-area-of-open-water-on-hudson-bay-created-by-wind-not-ice-melt-nsidc-experts-confirm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=332321","title":{"rendered":"Huge area of open water on Hudson Bay created by wind, not ice melt, NSIDC experts confirm"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From polarbearscience<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sea ice experts at the\u00a0US National Snow and Ice Data Center<\/a>\u00a0just confirmed my suspicion that the huge area of open water in eastern Hudson Bay during May this year was caused by winds, not ice melt. In other words, it\u2019s a rare occurrence but not a sign of extra-early sea ice melt caused by global warming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Money quote<\/a>:<\/strong> \u201cUnusual strong and persistent winds from the east caused the low extent.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

May sea ice Hudson Bay<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

From the NSIDC report<\/a> (June 4), a NASA image of Hudson Bay taken 26 May 2024:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The graph below is from the same report, showing the \u201cunprecedented\u201d (since 1979 only) nature of this wind-driven event:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The Canadian Ice Service shows this in regional context for the first week of June in their stage of development chart (i.e. ice thickness, where medium green is 70-120 cm thick, dark green 120-200 cm or more):<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Even pessimistic polar bear specialist Andrew Derocher\u00a0admitted last wee<\/a>k that Western Hudson Bay polar bears are largely unaffected by the open water on the bay since they are concentrated in the western half of the bay. The bears do this most years in late spring, in fact, even when there is more ice available. Derocher\u2019s tracking maps for 31 May 2024 and 1 June 2019 are below:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Even by today, 9 June, there is still ice in the western half of James Bay and Hudson Bay:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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May Arctic sea ice<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Overall, however, the NSIDC report also showed that sea ice for May was about what it has been since 2004 (with some variation), with the average this year at 12.78 mkm2:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Sea ice extent at 1 June 2024 shown below:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Sea ice experts at the US National Snow and Ice Data Center just confirmed my suspicion that the huge area of open water in eastern Hudson Bay during May this year was caused by winds, not ice melt. In other words, it\u2019s a rare occurrence but not a sign of extra-early sea ice melt caused by global warming.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":332337,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818087,691818250,691818895,691829129],"class_list":{"0":"post-332321","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-global-warming","9":"tag-hudson-bay","10":"tag-sea-ice","11":"tag-us-national-snow-and-ice-data-center","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/0Polar-Bear-on-Ice-Christopher-Michel-1600x1143-1.jpg?fit=1600%2C1143&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1os1","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":334659,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=334659","url_meta":{"origin":332321,"position":0},"title":"Arctic sea ice at the summer solstice: more polar bear habitat than 2022 after hottest year on record","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"26\/06\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"We are just into the 2024 sea ice melt season in the Arctic with no signs of any big, dramatic changes despite claims that 2023 was the warmest year on record (since 1850). 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