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From Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Essay by Eric Worrall<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

An AAP Factcheck, a few wild claims, and an Andrew Doyle interview with British environmentalist Jim Dale<\/a> which appears to have taken on a life of its own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Climate change deniers not at risk of WEF arrest<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

William Summers  June 7, 2024<\/p>\n\n\n\n

AAP FACTCHECK \u2013 A website with a history of spreading misinformation claims the World Economic Forum<\/a> (WEF) has ordered governments to arrest all climate change deniers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The claim is false. The man said to have issued the \u201corder\u201d is a British meteorology consultant who told AAP FactCheck<\/strong> he has no links with the WEF, a global economic forum and think tank.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He also didn\u2019t make any order or call for the arrest of all climate change deniers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What he did say is that it should be illegal to promote climate denial in the media.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The false claim appears in an article published by The People\u2019s Voice, a prolific publisher of viral misinformation and fake clickbait<\/a> news stories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The article in question<\/a> is headlined: \u201cWEF Orders Govt\u2019s To Arrest Citizens Who Oppose Man-Made Climate Change Narrative.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It describes how environmentalist Jim Dale<\/a> said it should be illegal for people to \u201cpromote\u201d climate change denialism during a TV segment aired on GB News<\/a> on May 12.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mr Dale tells AAP FactCheck<\/strong> that the claim he spoke on behalf of the WEF is \u201ctotally false\u201d. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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https:\/\/www.aap.com.au\/factcheck\/climate-change-deniers-not-at-risk-of-wef-arrest\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

I tracked down the People\u2019s Voice article. It appears to quote a WUWT article I wrote, though they added a few of their own interpretations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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WEF Orders Govt\u2019s To Arrest Citizens Who Oppose Man-Made Climate Change Narrative<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fact checked by The People\u2019s Voice Community<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

May 21, 2024<\/a> Sean Adl-Tabatabai<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The World Economic Forum has ordered government\u2019s to begin arresting citizens who oppose the man-made climate change narrative in a bid to persuade the masses that \u2018global boiling<\/a>\u2018 is a real danger. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Young Global Leader<\/a> and British far-left environmentalist Jim Dale says all \u2018climate deniers\u2019 must be sent to jail in order to shut them up from convincing others that man-made global warming is fake.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Dale did not specify what types of sanctions would apply to people who are still allowed to live outside of prison despite holding what he believes to be errant beliefs, but he did indicate that it would be up to politicians like Labour Party leader Keir Starmer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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According to Watts Up With That<\/em>, Earth is actually in a process of cooling right now, not warming. In fact, the climate is always changing up and down depending not only on the season but also the age.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If there were periods of extreme heat and extreme cold way back before there was even industrialization, then how can people like Dale claim that human activity is responsible for the temperature \u201cextremes\u201d that he claims are now taking place?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cGiven the geological evidence is that we are living in a significant period of extreme cold, how can today\u2019s temperatures possibly qualify as a global warming emergency?\u201d Watts Up With That<\/em> asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cYet an opinion such as I just provided, a simple statement of fact, would likely be illegal under Jim Dale\u2019s climate denial rules. Under Dale\u2019s proposed rules, myself or anyone who retweets this article could go to jail or lose their house, merely for suggesting that people living in the middle of an ice age should be more concerned about glaciers than beach weather.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2026Read more:\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

https:\/\/thepeoplesvoice.tv\/wef-orders-govts-to-arrest-citizens-who-oppose-man-made-climate-change-narrative\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

We are in the Quaternary Ice Age, and it is warmer than a few hundred years ago \u2013 though whether the world is cooling or warming very much depends on your choice of timescale and starting point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I believe the referenced article was \u201cJail the Deniers? British Environmentalist Demands Criminal Sanctions\u201d. As far as I can tell I didn\u2019t mention the WEF in that article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jail the Deniers? British Environmentalist Demands Criminal Sanctions<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Environmentalist Jim Dale didn\u2019t actually say \u201cJail the deniers\u201d in the interview above, what he said is deniers should face criminal sanctions. But how can you have criminal sanctions without a threat of jail time? Jim Dale refused to be pinned down on exactly what criminal sanctions deniers should face, instead suggesting British opposition leader Keir Starmer<\/a> should make that call.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did the WEF order governments to begin arresting climate deniers?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I don\u2019t believe the evidence People\u2019s Voice presented in the article AAP Factchecked supports this claim, though if I missed anything I\u2019m happy to add a correction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I don\u2019t recall Jim ever claiming to be a WEF spokesman, if he had I would have mentioned it. Frankly Jim seemed a little slow, he really struggled with simple questions, not the kind of person the WEF would normally pick as a representative.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We live in dangerous times. I accept People\u2019s Voice\u2019s suggestion that the disturbingly authoritarian hate speech laws<\/a> which are being used to arrest people in Britain one day might be applied to climate denial. I also accept that the UN<\/a> and WEF<\/a> may be behind the push for international recognition of the crime of Ecocide, which could be used as a pretext to arrest climate skeptics. But these are all future possibilities. As far as I know, right now, today, nobody is being arrested for climate denial, and I have seen no evidence anyone has been ordered to arrest deniers.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Update (EW): h\/t _Jim<\/a>, Tom Abbott<\/a> \u2013 More evidence the danger is real. The following is a video of RFK Jnr discussing past statements that climate deniers should be jailed for \u201cfraudulent speech\u201d. But right at the end of the video RFJ Jnr appears to sympathise with concerns that attempts to outlaw climate skepticism could be abused by authorities, much as authorities abused attempts to disagree with official Covid narratives, and implies his views changed after what he saw during the Covid crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

RFK Jnr is currently a significant third party candidate in the 2024 Presidential Election<\/a>. I would be a lot happier if RFK Jnr categorically repudiated his former beliefs about jailing deniers, rather than just implying his attitude had softened, without making a hard statement of repudiation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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