{"id":331624,"date":"2024-06-05T11:06:30","date_gmt":"2024-06-05T09:06:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=331624"},"modified":"2024-06-05T11:06:33","modified_gmt":"2024-06-05T09:06:33","slug":"wind-and-solar-resource-availability-fatal-flaw","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=331624","title":{"rendered":"Wind and Solar Resource Availability Fatal Flaw"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"331630\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=331630\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"OIG-20\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?fit=723%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=723%2C723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-331630\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/06\/04\/wind-and-solar-resource-availability-fatal-flaw\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Roger Caiazza<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As a retired electric utility meteorologist, I have been following issues associated with wind and solar resource availability for many years.&nbsp; My thinking has evolved to the point where I now believe that in a rational world it would be recognized that any electric grid relying on wind and solar is doomed to failure.&nbsp; This post explains why.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Background<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The North American Electric Reliability Corporation (NERC) recently convened a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerc.com\/pa\/comp\/CAOneStopShop\/Cold%20Weather%20Preparedness%20Small%20Group%20Advisory%20Sessions%20-%20General%20Session%205.6.24.pdf\">webinar for the Cold Weather Preparedness Small Group Advisory Sessions<\/a>&nbsp;(SGAS) to \u201cprovide an educational opportunity for registered entities to meet with NERC and Regional Entity representatives to discuss the cold weather preparedness Standards and possible compliance approaches in an open and non-audit environment.\u201d &nbsp;The impetus for this initiative was the February 2021 Texas event described in the following slide. The regulatory fallout for this event is not finished but the need to discuss how best to address these events is so acute that SGAS was established in \u201can open and non-audit environment\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"465\" data-attachment-id=\"331625\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=331625\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?fit=975%2C627&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"975,627\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-118\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?fit=723%2C465&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?resize=723%2C465&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-331625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?w=975&amp;ssl=1 975w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?resize=300%2C193&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-118.png?resize=768%2C494&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerc.com\/pa\/comp\/CAOneStopShop\/Cold%20Weather%20Preparedness%20Small%20Group%20Advisory%20Sessions%20-%20General%20Session%205.6.24.pdf\">May 6, 2024 NERC Cold Weather Preparedness Small Group Advisory Session<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The takeaway point is that there are already electric grid resource adequacy issues in the existing system during extreme weather events. I am most concerned about the future grid that relies on weather impacted resources. Even though Texas has substantial wind and solar resources their presence did not contribute meaningfully to this Texas blackout. Instead, it was the failure of many components of the traditional generating and transmission systems to be sufficiently hardened to extreme cold. In the future the weather dependent grid will cause similar problems more frequently and, as I will show, may not be able to prevent a catastrophic blackout.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My primary concern is the feasibility for the New York Climate Act&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climate.ny.gov\/resources\/scoping-plan\/\">implementation plan<\/a>. or more appropriately the lack of a proper feasibility analysis, that addresses the worst-case wind and solar energy resource drought.&nbsp; In September 2021, I&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2021\/09\/02\/reliability-challenges-in-meeting-new-yorks-climate-act-requirements\/\">described the reliability challenges<\/a>&nbsp;for the Climate Act described by the organizations responsible for electric system reliability.&nbsp; All the credible analyses done for future grid reliability point out the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/pragmaticenvironmentalistofnewyork.blog\/2020\/09\/27\/climate-leadership-and-community-protection-act-ultimate-problem\/\">expected worst-case scenario<\/a>&nbsp;\u2013 When New York electrifies heating and transportation the peak load will be in the winter when temperatures are coldest.&nbsp; The&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/climate.ny.gov\/-\/media\/CLCPA\/Files\/2020-09-16-Power-Generation-Advisory-Panel-Presentation.pdf\">Integration Analysis identified<\/a>&nbsp;a multi-day period winter wind lull.&nbsp; The New York Independent System Operator has&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2022\/03\/25\/new-york-climate-act-what-the-experts-are-saying-now\/\">done similar analyses<\/a>&nbsp;and showed that winter wind lulls that coincide with low solar availability and high loads will be the ultimate problem.&nbsp; The New York Department of Public Service also has identified the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/04\/06\/renewable-energy-gap-characterization\/\">Renewable Energy Gap<\/a>&nbsp;as a major issue.&nbsp; In my opinion, however, no analysis done to date has identified the worst-case scenario because they have all used relatively short periods of historical data.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All credible renewable resource projection analyses use historical meteorological data, projections of future load during those periods, and estimates of electric resource availability based on assumed deployment of wind, solar, energy storage, and other technologies needed to supply the expected load.&nbsp; Hourly profiles of weather variables produced via the weather forecast modeling techniques are used to develop hourly demand forecasts and energy output profiles for wind and solar resources for the periods being studied. &nbsp;The credible analyses only differ in their assumptions for the characteristics of the buildouts and the sophistication of potential availability based on climatological and geographical constraints.&nbsp; Once the analysis is complete the resulting data can be used to identify the worst case.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The New York Independent System Operator (NYISO) is working with its consultant DNV to develop New York&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nyiso.com\/documents\/20142\/41314645\/06_10430908%20DNV%20LBW%20and%20Solar%20Presentation%20for%20NYISO.pdf\/9ad3176f-cc96-8f7f-1b32-8fe98e9e095e\">onshore wind, offshore wind, and solar resource availability<\/a>.&nbsp; Their analysis uses a 23-year historical meteorological database for the New York State renewable resource areas. Similar analyses are underway in other regional transmission operator regions.&nbsp; It has also been recognized that larger areas need to be treated similarly.&nbsp; The Electric Power Research Institute has a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/lcri-vision.epri.com\/\">Low-Carbon Resources Initiative<\/a>&nbsp;that has been looking at the North American continent.&nbsp; Researchers outside of the industry have also done analyses of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/link.springer.com\/article\/10.1007\/s42452-021-04794-z\">wind and solar power droughts&nbsp;<\/a>using the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1002\/qj.3803\">ERA5 reanalysis data<\/a>&nbsp;from 1950 to the present.&nbsp; The reanalysis data analysis uses current weather forecast models and historical observations to provide hourly meteorological fields.&nbsp; These data can be further refined to finer scales to project the wind and solar resource availability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Results<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All these analyses find there are periods of low renewable resource availability.&nbsp; For example, the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysrc.org\/\">New York State Reliability Council<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysrc.org\/committees\/extreme-weather-working-group\/\">Extreme Weather Working Group<\/a>&nbsp;(EWWG) analyzed the high resolution&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysrc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/NYSRC-Wind-Impacts-Final-07_18_2319907.pdf\">NY offshore wind data<\/a>&nbsp;provided by NYISO and its consultant DNV for offshore wind resources.&nbsp; The summary of the report stated:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The magnitude, duration, and widespread geographic impacts identified by this preliminary analysis are quite significant and will be compounded by load growth from electrification. This highlights the importance of reliability considerations associated with offshore wind and wind lulls be accounted for in upcoming reliability assessments, retirement studies, and system adequacy reviews to ensure sufficiency of system design to handle the large offshore wind volume expected to become operational in the next five to ten years.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The NYISO\/DNV analysis used a 21-year database.&nbsp; In a similar type of analysis, the Independent System Operator of New England (ISO-NE)&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/pragmaticenvironmentalistofnewyork.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/iso-ne-operational_impact_of_exteme_weather_events_final_report.pdf\">Operational Impact of Extreme Weather Events<\/a>, the ERA5 data were used to prepare a database covering 1950 to 2021.&nbsp; The analysis evaluated 1, 5, and 21-day extreme cold and hot events.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the important results presented in the ISO-NE analysis was a table of projected system risk for weather events over the 72-year data record.&nbsp; In the analysis, system risk was defined as the aggregated unavailable supply plus the exceptional demand during the 21-day event.&nbsp; Note that the analysis considered sliding windows for the 21-day events by shifting the 21-day window every seven days.&nbsp; The unsurprising point I want to highlight is that the system risk increases as the lookback period increases.&nbsp; If the resource adequacy planning for New England only looked at the last ten years, then the system risk would be 8,714 MW, but over the whole period the worst system risk was 9,160 and that represents an resource increase of 5.1%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"397\" data-attachment-id=\"331627\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=331627\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-119.png?fit=744%2C409&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"744,409\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-119\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-119.png?fit=723%2C397&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-119.png?resize=723%2C397&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-331627\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-119.png?w=744&amp;ssl=1 744w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/image-119.png?resize=300%2C165&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Source: ISO-NE Operational Impact of Extreme Weather Events, available\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pragmaticenvironmentalistofnewyork.blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/iso-ne-operational_impact_of_exteme_weather_events_final_report.pdf\">here<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Note that there was an EWWG analysis of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nysrc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/NY-weather-extremes-rev.pdf\">Historical Weather and Climate Extremes for New York<\/a>&nbsp;performed by Judith Curry and myself that identified the January 1961 event as the probable worst-case scenario.&nbsp; We found that there was a 15-day period from January 20 until February 3, 1961 that will likely turn out to be the worst-case cold wave. This was a period when high-pressure systems dominated the weather in the Northeast and those conditions mean light wind speeds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Discussion<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I do not think we can ever have an electric grid that will provide reliable power when it is needed the most. Today electric system resource adequacy planners don\u2019t have to worry that many generating resources might not be available at the same time. In a future electric grid that relies on wind and solar the fact that those resources correlate in time and space is what I think is the insurmountable planning problem. All solar goes away at night and wind lulls affect entire regional transmission organization (RTO) areas at the same time. This issue is exacerbated by the fact that the wind lull will cover multiple RTO areas at the same time the highest load is expected.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reason we can never trust a wind, solar, and energy storage grid is because if we depend on energy-limited resources that are a function of the weather, then a system designed to meet the worst-case is likely impractical. Consider the ISO-NE events where it was found that the most recent 10-year planning lookback period would plan for a system risk of 8,714 MW.&nbsp; However, if the planning horizon covered the period back to 1961, the worst-case to 1950, an additional 446 MW would be required to meet the system risk.&nbsp; I cannot imagine a business case for the deployment of energy storage or the magical dispatchable emissions free resource that will only be needed once in 63 years.&nbsp; For one thing, the life expectancy of these technologies is much less than 63 years.&nbsp; Even over a shorter horizon such as the last ten years, how will a required facility be able to stay solvent when it runs so rarely without subsidies and very high payments when they do run.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I described in an&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/04\/06\/renewable-energy-gap-characterization\/\">earlier article<\/a>, the New York Department of Public Service (DPS)&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/documents.dps.ny.gov\/public\/MatterManagement\/CaseMaster.aspx?Mattercaseno=15-E-0302\">Proceeding 15-E-0302<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/dps.ny.gov\/event\/zero-2040-tech-conference-tech-conference-discuss-process-regarding-meeting-zero-emission\">technical conference<\/a>&nbsp;Zero Emissions by 2040 &nbsp;highlighted concerns about this&nbsp;<a href=\"ttps:\/\/youtu.be\/H8cDf0bRetQ?t=1142\">Gap&nbsp;<\/a>resource gap and how it could be addressed.&nbsp; Besides the fact that the preferred candidate technologies have not been commercially proven, they all will be extraordinarily expensive.&nbsp; I believe that makes worst-case solutions impractical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the other hand, the alternative to ignore the worst case is unacceptable.&nbsp; In the net-zero fantasy world that is supposed to rely on wind and solar when heating and transportation is supposed to be electrified the need for reliable electricity is magnified. If we don\u2019t provide resources for the observed worst case, when those conditions inevitably reoccur then there will be a blackout when electricity is needed the most to keep people from freezing to death in the dark because they are unable to flee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The tradeoff between practicality and necessity is not going to be resolved by the resource adequacy planning groups doing the analyses described.&nbsp; I don\u2019t think organizations like the New York State Reliability Council or NERC will make the decisions either.&nbsp; This is something that will have to be decided by politicians at the highest levels.&nbsp; Hopefully the problem will be considered in an open and transparent manner, but political lobbying pressures will be immense because the viability of the politically correct current plan to depend on wind and solar in New York and elsewhere is threatened.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have long argued that New York should perform a feasibility study to determine if the net-zero outline to comply with the Climate Act in the Scoping Plan could possibly work.&nbsp; Francis Menton has convinced me that it would be&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2023-2-8-we-must-demand-a-demonstration-project-of-a-mainly-renewables-based-electrical-grid\">better to do a demonstration project<\/a>&nbsp;in some smaller jurisdiction to prove that it can work.&nbsp;&nbsp; The described tradeoff between the practicality of deploying resources for the observed worst-case resource deficit and the necessity to do so to prevent a catastrophic blackout should be a key consideration in either workability evaluation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In my opinion any electric system that depends on wind and solar is impractical.&nbsp; Obviously, if the goal is a zero-emissions electric system then nuclear must be the cornerstone.&nbsp; If affordability is a concern, then the pragmatic acceptance of a large reduction in emissions rather than a zero target would allow the use of some natural gas&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2023\/02\/10\/net-zero-or-good-enough\/\">as proposed by Russell Schussler and myself<\/a>&nbsp;last year.&nbsp; Given the entrenched crony capitalists and special interests supporting wind and solar any shift in direction, even if necessary to protect health and safety, will be a tremendous lift.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Roger Caiazza blogs on New York energy and environmental issues at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/pragmaticenvironmentalistofnewyork.blog\/\">Pragmatic Environmentalist of New York<\/a>.&nbsp; This represents his opinion and not the opinion of any of his previous employers or any other company with which he has been associated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a retired electric utility meteorologist, I have been following issues associated with wind and solar resource availability for many years.  My thinking has evolved to the point where I now believe that in a rational world it would be recognized that any electric grid relying on wind and solar is doomed to failure.  This post explains why.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":331630,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818867,691825721,691828633,691829000],"class_list":{"0":"post-331624","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-new-york","9":"tag-north-american-electric-reliability-corporation-nerc","10":"tag-texas-blackouts","11":"tag-wind-and-solar-resource","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/OIG-20.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1ogM","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":319400,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=319400","url_meta":{"origin":331624,"position":0},"title":"No Care &amp; No Responsibility: Massive Subsidies Only Reason Wind &amp; Solar \u2018Industries\u2019\u00a0Exist","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"04\/22\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Sun\u2019s up, wind\u2019s blowing and wind and solar power is flowing. Wind drops, Sun sets and you\u2019re on your own. The so-called wind and solar \u2018industries\u2019 couldn\u2019t care less whether you\u2019re left freezing in the dark. Your power supply is somebody else\u2019s problem.","rel":"","context":"In \"electric vehicles (EVs)\"","block_context":{"text":"electric vehicles (EVs)","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=electric-vehicles-evs"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/OIG-70.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/OIG-70.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/OIG-70.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/OIG-70.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":273411,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=273411","url_meta":{"origin":331624,"position":1},"title":"Snow Job: Why Sunshine-Dependent Solar Will Never Provide Meaningful\u00a0Power","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"08\/14\/2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Anyone claiming that solar power is a meaningful power source, has never seen a sunset, and they can\u2019t have never seen a hurricane, hailstorm, or snowfall, or witnessed an icy frost. Because each of those planetary and meteorological events destroys either the panels themselves, or their ability to provide power\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Climate Leadership &amp; Community Protection Act (Climate Act)\"","block_context":{"text":"Climate Leadership &amp; Community Protection Act (Climate Act)","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=climate-leadership-community-protection-act-climate-act"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/1a4120207027627f0b.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/1a4120207027627f0b.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/1a4120207027627f0b.jpeg?fit=1200%2C675&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, 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Or is the contact deep within a PR firm in Austin, Texas or in Washington, DC? Please respond, anyone, in the comments section. A\u2026","rel":"","context":"Similar post","block_context":{"text":"Similar post","link":""},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/image-317.png?fit=1200%2C799&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/image-317.png?fit=1200%2C799&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/image-317.png?fit=1200%2C799&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/image-317.png?fit=1200%2C799&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/image-317.png?fit=1200%2C799&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":303627,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=303627","url_meta":{"origin":331624,"position":5},"title":"The Great Texas Blackout of 2021: Triumph of the Unreliables","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"02\/20\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Three years ago this month, a prolonged, extensive cold snap did the unthinkable to Texas\u2019s huge electricity grid. The\u00a0shared narrative\u00a0from proponents\/apologists of forced energy transformation (\u2018Energy Transition\u2019, \u2018Decarbonization\u2019, \u2018Net Zero\u2019, \u2018Green New Deal\u2019, \u2018Virtual Power Plant\u2019) focused on the failure of natural gas infrastructure as the cause of the debacle,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"Blackout of 2021\"","block_context":{"text":"Blackout of 2021","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=blackout-of-2021"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/0texas-blackout-banner-1-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C480&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/0texas-blackout-banner-1-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C480&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/0texas-blackout-banner-1-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C480&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/0texas-blackout-banner-1-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C480&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/0texas-blackout-banner-1-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C480&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/331624","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/121246920"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=331624"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/331624\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":331631,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/331624\/revisions\/331631"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/331630"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=331624"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=331624"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=331624"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}