{"id":329344,"date":"2024-05-17T11:09:15","date_gmt":"2024-05-17T09:09:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=329344"},"modified":"2024-05-17T11:09:17","modified_gmt":"2024-05-17T09:09:17","slug":"solar-power-at-midday-is-so-useless-they-plan-to-start-charging-homeowners-for-generating-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=329344","title":{"rendered":"Solar power at midday is so useless, they plan to start charging homeowners for generating it"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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From JoNova <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Jo Nova<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The glut in solar power in Australia is so big that next year solar panel owners in Sydney will have to pay 1.2c a kilowatt hour to offload their unwanted energy between 10am and 3pm. Nearly a million homes in Sydney have solar panels, but only 7% of them have batteries, which means basically, thousands of homes installed hi-tech generators that aren\u2019t very useful. Worse, other homes were forced to pay part of the costs for them. The only winner was China.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Finally, a tiny part of the strangled free market is re-asserting itself, which might slow down future installations, or trick a few people into installing a $9,000 battery. Naturally this unpredictable rule change will hurt the poorest solar owners, but benefit those wealthy enough to afford a battery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Solar panel owners slugged by Ausgrid for generating too much power<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

by Caitlin Fitzsimmons, Sydney Morning Herald<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The biggest electricity distributor on the east coast plans to charge households with solar panels to export their electricity to the grid during the middle of the day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ausgrid will impose a penalty of 1.2\u00a2 a kilowatt-hour for any electricity exported to the grid between 10am and 3pm above a free threshold that varies by month. During peak demand times, between 4pm and 9pm, Ausgrid would pay 2.3\u00a2 an hour as a reward to customers exporting solar to the grid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The tariff will be charged by Ausgrid and the retailer will decide how to package it. It is opt-in from July this year, and mandatory from July next year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Sydney Morning Herald naturally thinks this is backwards and unfair, and in a sense it is, homeowners were led up the garden path. No one was given realistic information before they purchased another useless panel. But where was The Sydney Morning Herald? \u2014 it was selling the garden path. If they interviewed a few skeptics they could have told the hapless homeowners that the forced transition was artificial, unmanageable, and the conditions were doomed to be \u201cadjusted\u201d sooner or later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Solar power at noon is electrical sewage<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

The wholesale market was trying to send the message. Negative spot prices show that solar is essentially a waste product at lunchtime which needs to be disposed off, a bit like electrical sewage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Negative spot revenues didn\u2019t really occur until we installed the last\u00a0two million solar panels that we didn\u2019t need<\/a>. It is\u00a0obviously a growing problem now, which\u00a0<\/a>suspiciously peaks in spring and summer and falls in winter months \u2013matching the solar output profile by month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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https:\/\/www.energycouncil.com.au\/analysis\/negative-prices-and-revenues-in-the-nem-over-the-past-decade\/<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

You might wonder why any generator would keep generating during a glut so bad they had to pay for every watt they generated. But it\u2019s logical in a screwed market \u2014 the negative prices are close to the value of the \u201cRenewable Energy Certificates\u201d <\/a>the government forces us all to pay to solar and wind operators.  So solar owners can produce a product the market essentially doesn\u2019t want, but the government forces us to pay to make it profitable. See how this works?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The point of a free market is that stupid ideas are supposed to be free to lose their own money. That\u2019s a signal to stop doing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And if there was some use for solar power at midday, negative prices would have found it. If there was an AI supercomputer that needed to sleep 18 hours a day and only work at lunchtime, the owners would have been beating down the door to get paid to use that solar juice. It didn\u2019t happen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here\u2019s the solar power contribution to the NSW grid this month.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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https:\/\/anero.id\/energy\/2024\/may<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

During the solar spikes, hundreds of tons of exquisitely tuned infrastructure that could have kept running, just sits around and waits in case a cloud rolls over. And efficiency gained by solar is lost by the rest of the system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

h\/t David of Cooyal in Oz<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The glut in solar power in Australia is so big that next year solar panel owners in Sydney will have to pay 1.2c a kilowatt hour to offload their unwanted energy between 10am and 3pm. Nearly a million homes in Sydney have solar panels, but only 7% of them have batteries, which means basically, thousands of homes installed hi-tech generators that aren\u2019t very useful. Worse, other homes were forced to pay part of the costs for them. The only winner was China.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":329350,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_wpcom_ai_launchpad_first_post":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818216,691819231,691820383,691818267],"class_list":["post-329344","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-australia","tag-energy-transformation","tag-renewable-energy-certificates","tag-solar-power","fallback-thumbnail"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1nG0","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":452291,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=452291","url_meta":{"origin":329344,"position":0},"title":"Australia threw \u201crenewable\u201d energy away at record levels in 2025","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"06\/26\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"The more we make, the more we waste. 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