{"id":305684,"date":"2024-03-04T08:44:56","date_gmt":"2024-03-04T07:44:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=305684"},"modified":"2024-03-04T08:44:59","modified_gmt":"2024-03-04T07:44:59","slug":"germanys-unstable-power-gridcoal-plants-will-be-needed-for-a-very-long-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=305684","title":{"rendered":"Germany\u2019s Unstable Power Grid\u2026Coal Plants Will Be Needed \u201cFor A Very Long Time"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"531\" data-attachment-id=\"305687\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=305687\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?fit=1396%2C1025&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1396,1025\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2quote-star-trek-scotty\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?fit=723%2C531&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=723%2C531&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-305687\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=1024%2C752&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=300%2C220&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=768%2C564&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=1200%2C881&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?w=1396&amp;ssl=1 1396w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/notrickszone.com\/2024\/03\/01\/germanys-unstable-power-grid-coal-plants-will-be-needed-for-a-very-long-time\/\">NoTricksZone<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/notrickszone.com\/author\/admin\/\">P Gosselin<\/a>\u00a0on\u00a0<\/em>1. March 2024<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When green energy ideology clashes with the laws of Engineering and physics\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>By&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/klimanachrichten.de\/2024\/02\/28\/wie-stabil-ist-das-deutsche-stromnetz\/\">KlimaNachrichten Editor<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Manfred Haferburg, power plant engineer, explains the problems of the German power grid in connection with the green energy transition at online site&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.achgut.com\/artikel\/netzbetreiber_warnen_stromnetz_kollapsgefaehrdet_wie_nie\">Achgut<\/a>. The result is a very informative article. It is not primarily about blackouts due to a lack of power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The author begins by explaining three important terms: The n-1 criterion, reactive power and instantaneous reserve.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLet\u2019s translate all the technical gobbledygook. The experts at the power transmission grid operators have been \u2018preoccupied\u201d\u2018 with the topic for a long time, but politicians have not understood it because \u2018it is a very complex issue\u2019. And then comes the kicker: the German transmission grid can no longer cope with the \u2018n-1 error\u2019 in every case. This means that if, in a tense situation, one of the large transmission lines suddenly fails due to a lightning strike, long-wave conductor vibrations in high winds and snow, sabotage or a transformer\/high-voltage switch fault, \u2018the electricity grid could become unbalanced\u2019 \u2013 in other words, it could collapse in a domino effect. This could result in a partial grid failure or, in the worst case, a blackout. This time it\u2019s not me saying this, but the team leader for system behavior in the strategic grid planning department at TransnetBW.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.achgut.com\/artikel\/blackout_1_eine_serie_aus_aktuellem_anlass\">I wrote this on this site years ago<\/a>&nbsp;and was berated for it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cHere, too, an attempt at layman\u2019s language: the large rotating generators of the power plants are \u2018grid-forming\u2019 machines; due to their large mass, they keep the frequency of 50 Hz constant in the range of seconds. For our colleagues at the Feferal Ministry of Economics and Federal Grid Agency, inertia is a physical property that ensures that power fluctuations are cushioned in a range in which the time for human intervention is too short. Wind turbines have only small masses and solar panels have no rotating parts at all, they are \u2018grid-following\u2019 with their inverters; this means that they are connected to the grid of the \u2018grid-forming machines\u2019 and do not have a stabilizing effect. Incidentally, gas-fired power plants tend to be \u2018grid-following machines\u2019. The large power plant generators have also been responsible for maintaining the voltage in the grid through reactive power control.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>At the end of the article, Haferburg comes to the conclusion that we will continue to see coal-fired power plants in operation for a very long time.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Read the full article on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.achgut.com\/artikel\/netzbetreiber_warnen_stromnetz_kollapsgefaehrdet_wie_nie\">Achgut<\/a>.<\/em><br><em>(Note: Today\u2019s modern translation tools do a pretty good job at translating the text into English)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When green energy ideology clashes with the laws of Engineering and physics\u2026<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":305687,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"When green energy ideology clashes with the laws of Engineering and physics\u2026","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691825227,691827376,691818051],"class_list":{"0":"post-305684","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-german-power-grid","9":"tag-german-transmission","10":"tag-germany","12":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?fit=1396%2C1025&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1hwo","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":431691,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=431691","url_meta":{"origin":305684,"position":0},"title":"Fritz Vahrenholt: No change of policy in energy and climate policy","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"16\/03\/2026","format":false,"excerpt":"Vahrenholt sees this as locking in deindustrialization: high costs, unreliable supply, and ideological barriers (SPD blocking CDU ideas). 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