{"id":295205,"date":"2024-01-15T13:04:33","date_gmt":"2024-01-15T12:04:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=295205"},"modified":"2024-01-15T13:04:36","modified_gmt":"2024-01-15T12:04:36","slug":"charging-an-electric-vehicle-in-canadas-deep-freeze","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=295205","title":{"rendered":"Charging an Electric Vehicle in Canada\u2019s Deep Freeze"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"542\" data-attachment-id=\"295207\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=295207\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?fit=2048%2C1536&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1536\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?fit=723%2C542&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=723%2C542&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-295207\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=1536%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=1200%2C900&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=600%2C450&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=400%2C300&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?resize=200%2C150&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/Watts Up With That?\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Essay by Eric Worrall<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A Canadian in a frozen parking lot trying to coax a bit more range, at 45C below zero (-49F).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Took my wife into work today for safety sakes.  It\u2019s -45 this morning. <br><br>Saw a fellow sitting in his EV at a charging station.  The businesses were still closed for him to stay warm and dawdle while his car charged.  <br><br>I briefly spoke with him as he went into the store.  He said\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/INfnWU7eu1\">pic.twitter.com\/INfnWU7eu1<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Mark Bohaichuk (@m_bohaichuk) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/m_bohaichuk\/status\/1746213265976504391?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 13, 2024<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think the store behind the charger is a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mark%27s\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mark\u2019s clothing and footwear store<\/a>, though I couldn\u2019t find the exact location.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If Aircon drains the battery that fast, how long would EV owners last, if an unexpected blizzard dumps a few feet of snow while they are on the open road? The electric vehicle in the photo doesn\u2019t look like it has significant ground clearance or off-road capability. At least with a gasoline or diesel vehicle you can sit idling and stay warm for a long time if you get stuck. In really severe frost conditions, an ICE vehicle can pack a few extra cans of gas in the back to stretch your survival time, in case of emergencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I hope the Canadian EV owner survives the winter. But continuing to drive a vehicle which struggles to make a few miles down the road in conditions like that? What would have happened to the EV driver if the charger was not working? Would he have had enough power to make it to the next charger?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Its not difficult to imagine such a scenario rapidly becoming life threatening, if the failed EV charger was remote enough that help wasn\u2019t readily available.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Surely it is time for people who live in such places to throw in the towel on EV ownership. At the very least EV owners should purchase a real automobile, for use when driving conditions are too harsh for EVs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Update (EW):\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2024\/01\/14\/charging-an-electric-vehicle-in-canadas-deep-freeze\/#comment-3847791\">quelgeek<\/a>\u00a0figured out the charging station in the photo at the top of the page appears to be in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/@53.5021124,-112.0798478,3a,49.3y,196.15h,75t\/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seGiiNxK5pxowWO3KeZSSpw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vegreville<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Canadian in a frozen parking lot trying to coax a bit more range, at 45C below zero (-49F).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":295207,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"A Canadian in a frozen parking lot trying to coax a bit more range, at 45C below zero (-49F).","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691826283,691826284,691821977,691826285],"class_list":{"0":"post-295205","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-45-degrees-celsius","9":"tag-cars-range-280-km","10":"tag-electric-vehicles-evs","11":"tag-frozen-parking-lot","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/0GDvLtP1aQAA_tHh.jpeg?fit=2048%2C1536&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1eNn","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":297691,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=297691","url_meta":{"origin":295205,"position":0},"title":"Freezing to Fight Global Warming","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"21\/01\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"In mid-January 2024, Alberta's grid experienced record electricity demand as Artic air sent temperatures plunging. 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