{"id":291577,"date":"2023-12-16T18:18:15","date_gmt":"2023-12-16T17:18:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=291577"},"modified":"2023-12-16T18:18:18","modified_gmt":"2023-12-16T17:18:18","slug":"many-will-die-climate-scientists-respond-to-cop28-fiasco","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=291577","title":{"rendered":"\u201cMany Will Die\u201d: Climate Scientists Respond to COP28 Fiasco"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"291579\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=291579\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?fit=723%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=723%2C723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-291579\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Essay by Eric Worrall<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The usual wailing and wild statements we\u2019ve come to expect in the wake of the annual COP failure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u2018Weak tea\u2019: Climate scientists push back against COP28 cheer<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Washington (AFP) \u2013&nbsp;<\/em>A UN climate deal that approved a call to transition away from fossil fuels has been hailed as a major milestone and a cause for at least cautious optimism.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Issued on:&nbsp;14\/12\/2023 \u2013 02:41<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Michael Mann \u2026 \u201cThe agreement to \u2018transition away from fossil fuels\u2019 was weak tea at best,\u201d he told AFP. \u201cIt\u2019s like promising your doctor that you will \u2018transition away from donuts\u2019 after being diagnosed with diabetes. The lack of an agreement to phase out fossil fuels was devastating.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mann called for a substantial reform of the COP rules, for example permitting super-majorities to approve decisions over the objections of holdout petro states like Saudi Arabia, and barring oil executives such as COP28 president Sultan Al Jaber from presiding over future summits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u2018Death knell for 1.5C\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNo doubt there will be lots of cheer and back-slapping\u2026 but the physics will not care,\u201d said Kevin Anderson, a professor of energy and climate change at the University of Manchester.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u2018Many will die\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Friederike Otto, a climatologist and leader in the field of assessing the role of climate change on specific extreme weather events, was equally damning.&nbsp; \u2026 \u201cWith every vague verb, every empty promise in the final text, millions more people will enter the frontline of climate change and many will die.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026Read more:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.france24.com\/en\/live-news\/20231214-weak-tea-climate-scientists-push-back-against-cop28-cheer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.france24.com\/en\/live-news\/20231214-weak-tea-climate-scientists-push-back-against-cop28-cheer<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mann\u2019s demand for a transition to a supermajority rather than unanimous vote is intriguing. I mean, how does Mann plan to enforce agreements if he has his supermajority, but one or two key players like India or China say no? Send in the US army?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These climate scientists just aren\u2019t living in the real world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Of course as COP28 demonstrated,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2023\/12\/14\/cop28-were-small-nations-lured-away-so-a-deal-could-be-struck\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">you can just wait until the most intransigent delegates are out of the room<\/a>\u00a0before calling a vote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Of course as COP28 demonstrated,\u00a0you can just wait until the most intransigent delegates are out of the room\u00a0before calling a vote.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":291579,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"Of course as COP28 demonstrated,\u00a0you can just wait until the most intransigent delegates are out of the room\u00a0before calling a vote.","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691819659,691825394,691818087,691820394],"class_list":{"0":"post-291577","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-climate-scientists","9":"tag-cop28-fiasco","10":"tag-global-warming","11":"tag-sultan-al-jaber","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/OIG-2023-07-13T175226.859.jpeg?fit=1024%2C1024&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-1dQR","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":323648,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=323648","url_meta":{"origin":291577,"position":0},"title":"Big Ag, not Only Big Oil, on the \u2018Climate Change\u2019 Menu","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"04\/26\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"The U.S. and global meat industries are thriving. 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