{"id":291046,"date":"2023-12-12T18:14:42","date_gmt":"2023-12-12T17:14:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=291046"},"modified":"2023-12-12T18:14:47","modified_gmt":"2023-12-12T17:14:47","slug":"the-full-bjorn-lomborg-interview-on-climate-change-poverty-and-how-governments-waste-your-money","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=291046","title":{"rendered":"The Full Bjorn Lomborg Interview on Climate Change, Poverty, and How Governments WASTE Your Money"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"419\" data-attachment-id=\"291050\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=291050\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?fit=973%2C564&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"973,564\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?fit=723%2C419&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?resize=723%2C419&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-291050\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?w=973&amp;ssl=1 973w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?resize=300%2C174&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Screenshot-2023-12-12-181348.png?resize=768%2C445&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Environmentalist Bjorn Lomborg says we waste money in the fight against climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Governments spends trillions to fight climate change, but Lomborg says many of these policies are \u201cnot an efficient way of spending.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For saying this, Lomborg has been called &#8220;the devil.&#8221; The Danish government even targeted him for his views on climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I&#8217;m not trying to do something that&#8217;s immoral or anything,&#8221; he tells me. &#8220;I&#8217;m simply trying to make sure that we get it right.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lomborg says there are better things society should spend money on. 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