{"id":290924,"date":"2023-12-11T16:59:07","date_gmt":"2023-12-11T15:59:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=290924"},"modified":"2023-12-11T16:59:10","modified_gmt":"2023-12-11T15:59:10","slug":"inside-the-hydrogen-fuel-project-bubbles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=290924","title":{"rendered":"Inside the Hydrogen Fuel Project\u00a0Bubbles"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"380\" data-attachment-id=\"290934\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=290934\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?fit=1200%2C630&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,630\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?fit=723%2C380&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?resize=723%2C380&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-290934\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?resize=1024%2C538&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?resize=300%2C158&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?resize=768%2C403&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0Colorized_Hindenburg_diaster_1937.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/rclutz.com\/\">Science Matters<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/author\/ronaldrc\/\">Ron Clutz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"290925\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=290925\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?fit=1366%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1366,768\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-290925\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/0hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?w=1366&amp;ssl=1 1366w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The map above from IEA shows almost 2000 hydrogen fuel projects around the world, intending to replace hydrocarbon fuels to save the planet.\u00a0 They dream of being operational by 2030 claiming that real world obstacles will be overcome if enough taxpayer dollars are thrown at the problems.\u00a0 The whole notion is fantastic (in the literal sense) for reasons detailed in a previous post.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-science-matters wp-block-embed-science-matters\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"PJ65JJi0ph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2023\/11\/04\/replace-carbon-fuels-with-hydrogen-absurd-exorbitant-and-pointless\/\">Replace Carbon Fuels with Hydrogen? Absurd, Exorbitant and&nbsp;Pointless<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Replace Carbon Fuels with Hydrogen? Absurd, Exorbitant and&nbsp;Pointless&#8221; &#8212; Science Matters\" src=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2023\/11\/04\/replace-carbon-fuels-with-hydrogen-absurd-exorbitant-and-pointless\/embed\/#?secret=NORzQqOLvL#?secret=PJ65JJi0ph\" data-secret=\"PJ65JJi0ph\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But realities be damned, there\u2019s virtue to be displayed, money to be made and no accountability for failure, so the charade will go on.&nbsp; On the map are some bubbles off the coast of Canadian maritime provinces, so let\u2019s take a peek into how these projects are conceived and realized. Rod Nickel reports at the Globe and Mail&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/business\/article-canadian-wind-hydrogen-project-delayed-one-year-in-race-to-first\/\"><strong>Canadian wind-hydrogen project delayed one year in race to first European exports.<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp; Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Green Hydrogen Project in Atlantic Provinces Delayed<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>One of Canada\u2019s first projects&nbsp;<strong>to produce emissions-free hydrogen with wind energy<\/strong>&nbsp;has&nbsp;<strong>delayed<\/strong>&nbsp;its start by one year because operator World Energy GH2\u2019s&nbsp;<strong>European customers need more time to develop special infrastructure<\/strong>&nbsp;to handle the product, the company said.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>The delays illustrate the difficulties<\/strong>\u00a0companies face in introducing\u00a0<strong>a nascent product to replace high-emitting forms of fuel<\/strong>\u00a0for transport, industry and homes.<\/em>\u00a0[The background post above notes how hydrogen makes containers and conduits brittle, not to mention its explosive potential.]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"290927\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=290927\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?fit=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,675\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-256\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-290927\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-256.png?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Have we learned nothing from the Hindenburg Disaster?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Half a dozen<\/strong>\u00a0companies are advancing<strong>\u00a0projects in the gusty Atlantic provinces of Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia<\/strong>\u00a0to harness\u00a0<strong>winds to power production of Canada\u2019s first exports of emissions-free hydrogen.<\/strong>\u00a0Canada signed a non-binding agreement in 2022 to ship green hydrogen to Germany starting in 2025.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"289\" data-attachment-id=\"290929\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=290929\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?fit=900%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"900,360\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-257\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?fit=723%2C289&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?resize=723%2C289&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-290929\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?resize=300%2C120&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-257.png?resize=768%2C307&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>But World Energy GH2<\/strong>, an affiliate of Boston-based renewable fuels producer World Energy,&nbsp;<strong>won\u2019t make that timeline<\/strong>, managing director Sean Leet told Reuters.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cThe offtakers are&nbsp;<strong>not<\/strong>&nbsp;going to be&nbsp;<strong>ready<\/strong>&nbsp;to accept product within 2025, actually not<strong>&nbsp;until 2027<\/strong>,\u201d Leet said, referring to<strong>&nbsp;buyers who would pre-purchase some of the project\u2019s hydrogen.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<strong>challenges<\/strong>&nbsp;for prospective buyers involve developing&nbsp;<strong>new technology to ship, further process and transport the hydrogen by pipeline<\/strong>&nbsp;at its last destination, Leet said.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>World Energy GH2 now&nbsp;<strong>hopes to start production in late 2026<\/strong>, he said. It&nbsp;<strong>requires approval<\/strong>&nbsp;from Newfoundland\u2019s&nbsp;<strong>environmental<\/strong>&nbsp;department&nbsp;<strong>and strong pre-purchase interest<\/strong>&nbsp;to attract financing before starting production.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#cf2e2e\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Those buyer commitments hinge on the Canadian government<br>finalizing details of a tax credit for up to 40% of the<br>capital cost of building hydrogen plants, Leet said.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The company intends to build&nbsp;<strong>three onshore wind farms in Newfoundland<\/strong>&nbsp;to power production of 250,000 metric tons per year of hydrogen, at a total<strong>&nbsp;cost of $12 billion.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Advocacy group&nbsp;<strong>EnviroWatch NL<\/strong>, however,&nbsp;<strong>questions the efficiency of building wind turbines in Canada to produce hydrogen that will ultimately generate power for Europe thousands of kilometres away.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>EverWind Fuels<\/strong>&nbsp;is on track&nbsp;<strong>to start<\/strong>&nbsp;production<strong>&nbsp;in Nova Scotia in 2025,<\/strong>&nbsp;said CEO Trent Vichie.&nbsp; Its plant, a converted fuel storage facility, would<strong>&nbsp;eventually produce 1 million metric tons annually of ammonia<\/strong>, a compound that is a practical form of transporting hydrogen.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>EverWind, which&nbsp;<strong>declined to disclose the project\u2019s capital budget,<\/strong>&nbsp;expects to strike firm buyer agreements in the first half of 2024, a spokesperson said, and has<strong>&nbsp;memorandums of understanding to sell hydrogen to German power companies<\/strong>&nbsp;Uniper and E.ON.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<strong>Canadian government<\/strong>&nbsp;agreed in November to&nbsp;<strong>loan EverWind $125 million to build its project,<\/strong>&nbsp;which still&nbsp;<strong>requires provincial approval of its wind farms<\/strong>. EverWind\u2019s hydrogen plant has already received environmental approval.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Germany-based ABO Wind<\/strong>&nbsp;is applying for permits and land for a Newfoundland&nbsp;<strong>onshore wind farm<\/strong>&nbsp;that will provide electricity to produce hydrogen for Braya Renewable Fuels\u2019 refinery as early as&nbsp;<strong>2027<\/strong>, Robin Reese, director of development for ABO Wind Canada said.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Newfoundland<\/strong>&nbsp;selected EverWind, World Energy GH2, ABO and Exploits Valley Renewable Energy Corp in August to proceed with their&nbsp;<strong>wind-hydrogen projects on government land.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>U.S.-based Pattern Energy<\/strong>\u00a0plans to secure European buying agreements in mid-2024 and start\u00a0<strong>construction in 2025<\/strong>\u00a0for its wind-hydrogen project\u00a0<strong>on private land in Newfoundland,<\/strong>\u00a0Canada country head Frank Davis said.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"380\" data-attachment-id=\"290931\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=290931\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?fit=1000%2C525&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1000,525\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-258\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?fit=723%2C380&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?resize=723%2C380&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-290931\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?resize=300%2C158&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/image-258.png?resize=768%2C403&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Some Skeptical Comments on the article<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>EnviroWatch is asking the right question.&nbsp;<strong>Why<\/strong>&nbsp;use all this great&nbsp;<strong>wind energy to electrolyze water to make hydrogen to convert it (presumably) to ammonia for shipping to Europe to produce energy.<\/strong>&nbsp;It makes absolutely<strong>&nbsp;no thermodynamic sense<\/strong>&nbsp;whatsoever. I highly doubt ANY of these projects get built. To quote Susan Powter from the 90s,&nbsp;<strong>\u201cStop the insanity!\u201d.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>It makes no economic, thermodynamic or business sense. But it\u2019s great politics.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>I\u2019m not thinking Billions but rather<strong>&nbsp;Trillions to be wasted on wind power before the world comes to its senses!<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>Twenty- thirty years of spending.<\/strong>&nbsp;Reminds me of the treasure supposedly buried at Oak Island!<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Problem is, the&nbsp;<strong>alternatives are all expensive mega-projects.<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>Darlington<\/strong>&nbsp;was 5 years late and $10 billion over budget, and&nbsp;<strong>we haven\u2019t built a new nuclear plant since<\/strong>&nbsp;then (30 years ago). New hydro dams have similar problems. Wind is small and cheap enough to actually get built in large numbers. Have to expand the energy supply somehow.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The actual&nbsp;<strong>Darlington nuke plants were 20% over budget not bad for a first of a kind.<\/strong>&nbsp;The rest was caused by<strong>&nbsp;government foolish delays<\/strong>&nbsp;in a high interest rate environment.&nbsp;<strong>The next 8 Candu\u2019s were built on time in under 4 years and on budget at under $2\/watt average the latest just completed in India.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The&nbsp;<strong>$25B refurb project is also on time and under budget.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Actually wind is of little use in Canada<\/strong>\u00a0as it disappears in summer doldrums and winter cold snaps but maximizes during springtime when hydro flows max out. 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The billionaire climate rent-seekers tell us that hydrogen power is the answer because the only emissions it puts out are water vapour. Hydrogen fuel cells are cited as an example.","rel":"","context":"In \"carbon dioxide (CO2)\"","block_context":{"text":"carbon dioxide (CO2)","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=carbon-dioxide-co2"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/2quote-star-trek-scotty-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C881&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/2quote-star-trek-scotty-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C881&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/2quote-star-trek-scotty-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C881&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/2quote-star-trek-scotty-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C881&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/2quote-star-trek-scotty-1.jpg?fit=1200%2C881&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":267892,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=267892","url_meta":{"origin":290924,"position":2},"title":"Is There A Future For White Hydrogen?\u2013John Thorogood","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"17\/07\/2023","format":false,"excerpt":"When hydrocarbon production ceases, today\u2019s civilisation comes to a full stop.\u00a0 But then that\u2019s what Pol Pot tried in Cambodia back in the 1970s and see where that ended up.","rel":"","context":"In \"abiogenic hydrogen\"","block_context":{"text":"abiogenic hydrogen","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=abiogenic-hydrogen"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/image-505.png?fit=1200%2C628&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/image-505.png?fit=1200%2C628&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/image-505.png?fit=1200%2C628&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/image-505.png?fit=1200%2C628&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/image-505.png?fit=1200%2C628&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":284000,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=284000","url_meta":{"origin":290924,"position":3},"title":"Green Hydrogen Needs Vast Subsidies","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"19\/10\/2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Hydrogen is\u00a0not a fuel. Hydrogen must be\u00a0created;\u00a0it must be made from another energy source, just as electricity must be made from\u00a0other\u00a0energy. Global hydrogen trade may be just a pipe dream. From \u00a0Master Resource By Steve Goreham \u201cHydrogen from electrolysis, called green hydrogen, typically\u00a0costs\u00a0more than $5 per kilogram, or more than\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"CO2\"","block_context":{"text":"CO2","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=co2"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Screenshot-2021-01-26-at-17.webp?fit=1027%2C500&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Screenshot-2021-01-26-at-17.webp?fit=1027%2C500&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Screenshot-2021-01-26-at-17.webp?fit=1027%2C500&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Screenshot-2021-01-26-at-17.webp?fit=1027%2C500&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":301851,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=301851","url_meta":{"origin":290924,"position":4},"title":"Can the Government Create a Green Hydrogen Fuel Industry?","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"15\/02\/2024","format":false,"excerpt":"World leaders promote hydrogen as a possible low-emissions fuel for transportation and industry. Nations have announced hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies to support development and supply of hydrogen. 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Munger, who died late last year,\u00a0was the vice chairman at Berkshire Hathaway, the conglomerate headed by his friend and colleague, Warren Buffett. Munger, a native of Omaha, had many pithy sayings, but among his most memorable\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"green hydrogen\"","block_context":{"text":"green hydrogen","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=green-hydrogen"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0hindenburg-1024x821-1.jpg?fit=1024%2C821&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0hindenburg-1024x821-1.jpg?fit=1024%2C821&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0hindenburg-1024x821-1.jpg?fit=1024%2C821&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/0hindenburg-1024x821-1.jpg?fit=1024%2C821&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290924","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/121246920"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=290924"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290924\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":290935,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/290924\/revisions\/290935"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/290934"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=290924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=290924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=290924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}