{"id":285840,"date":"2023-10-30T20:25:25","date_gmt":"2023-10-30T19:25:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=285840"},"modified":"2023-10-30T20:25:30","modified_gmt":"2023-10-30T19:25:30","slug":"the-political-risks-of-mandating-evs-for-everyone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=285840","title":{"rendered":"The political risks of mandating EVs for everyone"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"723\" data-attachment-id=\"285847\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=285847\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?fit=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-857\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?fit=723%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=723%2C723&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-285847\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=800%2C800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=600%2C600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/image-857.png?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>The realities of physics and engineering mean that politicians pushing for an all-EV future run a high risk. Quite aside from the eventual discovery that EVs will disappoint with only a tiny impact on global CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0emissions, the bigger impacts will come as consumers find vehicle ownership costs and inconveniences both escalating.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"531\" data-attachment-id=\"285845\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=285845\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?fit=1396%2C1025&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1396,1025\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2quote-star-trek-scotty\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?fit=723%2C531&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=723%2C531&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-285845\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=1024%2C752&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=300%2C220&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=768%2C564&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?resize=1200%2C881&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/2quote-star-trek-scotty.jpg?w=1396&amp;ssl=1 1396w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cfact.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">CFACT<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"482\" data-attachment-id=\"285842\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=285842\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?fit=2508%2C1672&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2508,1672\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?fit=723%2C482&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=723%2C482&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-285842\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=1024%2C683&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=1536%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=2048%2C1365&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?resize=1200%2C800&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/00Electric-Vehicle-Charging-Cord.jpg?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>This essay is based on the opening remarks delivered at a recent&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thesohoforum.org\/past-events\"><em>SOHO Forum Debate<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;on electric vehicles.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If we could imagine a time machine bringing to New York City an American citizen from the 19<sup>th<\/sup>&nbsp;century, odds are the one thing that would seem the most amazing about our time would be the proliferation of the personal automobile. Big buildings, big cities, roads, and nighttime illumination would all be imaginable, even if different looking and greater in scale. But the one thing radically different about modern daily life is the convenience and freedoms that come from a car.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, that 19th-century&nbsp;citizen would probably be puzzled by people staring at glowing rectangles in their hands. In fact, the personal computer and the personal car are co-equal in their transformative impacts. MIT historian Leo Marx put it well when he wrote that: \u201cTo speak . . . of the \u2018impact\u2019 of \u2026 the automobile upon society makes little more sense . . .than to speak of the impact of the bone structure on the human body.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The centrality of the car in the social and economic structure of society is evidenced by how citizens have voted with their pocketbooks. A car is the single most expensive product that 98% of consumers ever purchase. Over 90% of American households own or have access to a car. Average household spending on personal mobility is the second biggest expense after mortgage or rent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And there\u2019s nothing to the trope that the rising generations will abandon automobiles. A recent MIT analysis found Millennials exhibit no difference in \u201cpreferences for vehicle ownership\u201d and, in fact, drive more miles per year than Boomers. As for Gen Zs, the share of cars bought by that cohort has increased five-fold in the past five years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, to finish framing why cars matter, let\u2019s consider what used to be called telecommuting, Zooming, and remote working, especially following the epic exodus caused by the destructive Lockdowns of 2020. Surveys show the lockdowns accelerated a trend that was already underway, one of a huge swath of Americans moving to suburbs or rural areas. It\u2019s a trend that invariably leads to a greater need for cars and distances driven.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now come politicians in a dozen states \u2014 and the EPA via a creative exercise of regulatory authority \u2014with plans to ban the right to purchase a car with an internal combustion engine, the kind of car that 98% of Americans own and the kind of car that 98% of average-incomed Americans still buy. The goal of the bans is not, we\u2019re told, to deny any citizen the ability to own or afford a useful car. Instead, as everyone knows, it is in service of the goal to cut carbon dioxide emissions by mandating the use of so-called zero-emission electric vehicles. EVs for all. The process of \u201ctransitioning\u201d to EVs for everyone, everywhere, we\u2019re also told, will be painless because EVs are inevitably taking over the entire automobile market because they are \u2014 it is said \u2014 simpler, better, easier to use, and \u201ccleaner.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And now the Orwellian-named Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) promises a gusher of money to induce that transition. Let\u2019s stipulate the obvious \u2013 one doesn\u2019t need subsidies and mandates to convince people and businesses to buy products that are inherently radically better and cheaper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, assuming that the inflationary legislation isn\u2019t reversed by a future Congress, the IRA\u2019s push for an energy transition will deploy $2 to $3 trillion (when it\u2019s fully \u2018costed\u2019 to include unfunded mandates and in-perpetuity subsidies), half of which will be for EVs and related infrastructures. You can buy a lot of obeisance with that kind of money. With so much money combined with political mandates and PR momentum, we should not be surprised to find no automaker dares avoid genuflecting to the grand vision of an all-EV future. But money can\u2019t buy a change in the laws of physics and underlying engineering realities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ostensible inevitability, the enthusiasm, the subsidies, and the mandates for EVs are anchored in three claims:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>That EVs will radically reduce global CO2 emissions.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>That EVs are cheaper and easier to fuel because, well, you can \u201cjust plug them in,\u201d and<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>That EVs will soon be cheaper than conventional cars because they are inherently simpler.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>All three of these claims are simply wrong.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Start with the core claim that \u201cthey\u2019re simpler.\u201d Yes, conventional cars have complex thermo-mechanical systems. Engines and automatic transmissions are made from hundreds of components, although mated with a very simple fuel system, a tank holding a liquid with a one-moving-part pump. EVs, inversely, have a simple motor made from a few parts. However, the EV fuel tank is a complex electrochemical system made from hundreds, sometimes thousands of parts, including a cooling system, sensors, safety systems, and a boatload of power electronics. EVs aren\u2019t simpler; they\u2019re just differently complex.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The illusion of EV simplicity has relevance to the strike underway by the United Autoworkers Union. EVs do&nbsp;not&nbsp;entail less labor to build but instead shift where the labor takes place. The&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.city-journal.org\/article\/the-ev-jobs-myth\">data show<\/a>&nbsp;that, overall, while about 80 people are employed per 1,000 conventional cars produced, Tesla, the world\u2019s biggest EV maker\u2014for now\u2014employs about 90 people per 1,000 cars produced per year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Seem strange? Consider just the labor to make the two different drive trains. Again, take Tesla and specifically its trend-setting Nevada \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2018\/08\/21\/tesla-gigafactory-1-3000-workers\/\">gigafactory<\/a>\u201d where public data shows about 8 people are employed per 1,000 EV drivetrains produced \u2013 that\u2019s electric motor plus battery. The combined employment at conventional&nbsp;<a href=\"file:\/\/\/Users\/markmills\/Documents\/Documents%20-%20Mark%E2%80%99s%20MacBook%20Air\/Speech\/o%09http:\/www.madeinalabama.com\/2019\/03\/toyota-to-add-450-workers-with-288m-alabama-engine-plant-expansion\">engine<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"file:\/\/\/Users\/markmills\/Documents\/Documents%20-%20Mark%E2%80%99s%20MacBook%20Air\/Speech\/%E2%80%A2%09https:\/media.gm.com\/media\/us\/en\/gm\/news.detail.html\/content\/Pages\/news\/us\/en\/2011\/Oct\/1021_warren.html\">transmission<\/a>&nbsp;factories is just 4 people per 1,000 drivetrains. That\u2019s the inverse of the EV labor argument. And there\u2019s more to the labor story, realities that have implications for emissions and costs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Look upstream at the primary materials sent to the factories to fabricate the vehicles. Steel and iron make up about 85% of the weight of a conventional car. That upstream supply chain requires less than one person per 1,000 vehicles produced. Meanwhile, most of the weight of an EV is found in more exotic, so-called energy minerals, from copper and aluminum to, obviously, lithium, and also nickel, cobalt, manganese, and rare earths like neodymium. That upstream supply chain employs roughly 30 people for every 1,000 EVs. Of course, all that labor is elsewhere since the mines and refineries are not in America.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But before turning to cost and emissions implications of the upstream realities, we need to address the claim that EVs are simpler to fuel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s obvious that the imagined all-EV future requires on-road fast charging. First, the total labor to deliver the same energy to EV fueling stations is greater than it is for the gasoline infrastructure\u2026 something that will necessarily, ultimately, impact costs. But setting that aside (and that\u2019s a lot to set aside), the lie of the simpler-to-fuel is in the nature of electrical engineering for fast-charging batteries. The so-called superchargers offer, instead of overnight fueling, 80% charge in 30 to 40 minutes. This is only fast if it\u2019s not compared to the 3 to 4 minutes it takes to fill up a gasoline tank. Long refueling times will translate into long lines at EV fueling stations, as well as the need for five to 10 times more charging ports than fuel pumps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That won\u2019t be convenient, simple, or cheap. Each supercharger costs two to three times more than a gasoline pump. And, because superchargers necessarily operate at 100 times the power level of an overnight home charger, that translates into staggering requirements for grid infrastructure upgrades. Today, roadside fuel stations have the electric demand of a 7-Eleven, but convert those to EV fueling stations and every one of them will have the electric demand of a steel mill \u2013 and highways will need thousands of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Enthusiasts are either unaware of or profoundly na\u00efve about the time and cost challenges of all that. The naivety extends in particular regarding the materials demands for the quantities of copper needed for all the wires and transformers that will be required to replace cheap steel pipes and tanks. And the metal demands of the electric infrastructure will necessarily be piled on top of an unprecedented increase in demand for metals and minerals to fabricate the EVs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While copper is the long pole in the tent, it is only one of the mineral challenges. The realities of costs and emissions for EVs are dominated by a simple fact: a typical EV battery weighs about 1,000 pounds to replace the fuel and the tank, weighing together under 100 pounds. &nbsp;That half-ton battery is made from a wide range of minerals, including copper, nickel, aluminum, graphite, cobalt, manganese, and, of course, lithium. And to get the materials to fabricate that half-ton battery requires digging up and processing some 250 tons of the earth somewhere on the planet. Those numbers, it\u2019s important to understand, are roughly the same no matter what the specific battery chemical formulation is, whether it\u2019s lithium nickel, manganese, or the popularly cited lithium iron phosphate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And yes, that EV tonnage should be compared to the combined tonnage of metals&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp;the weight of the oil used to produce and fuel a conventional car. Even if you compare&nbsp;<em>those<\/em>&nbsp;numbers, over a 10-year lifespan of both kinds of cars, the EV&nbsp;<em>still<\/em>&nbsp;entails a ten-fold greater extraction and handling of materials from the earth and far, far more acreage of land disturbed and, unfortunately, often polluted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The astronomical quantity of materials needed for EVs has led proponents to claim that there are, after all, enough minerals on the planet and there\u2019s nothing to worry about. And anyway, they say, we can recycle to reduce the monumental materials requirements. But recycling will be irrelevant for a long time since manufacturers claim EV batteries will last a decade. That means there won\u2019t be anything significant available to begin recycling until the early 2030s, long after the world has had to face up to the biggest expansion of global mining in history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for the underlying geological resources to supply the suite of energy minerals, of course, there are enough of all those on planet Earth and even in America. That\u2019s irrelevant. What\u2019s relevant is that the data show that, overall, the mines operating&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp;planned can\u2019t supply even a small fraction of the 400% to 7000% increase in demand for minerals that will be needed within a decade to meet the ban-the-engine goals. What\u2019s relevant is that the IEA has told us we\u2019ll need hundreds of new mega-mines and that it takes 10 to 16 years to find, plan, and open a new mine. You can, as they say, do the math on that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The need to supply astonishing quantities of battery materials is also where we find the core problem with the claims for big EV emissions and cost savings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since over 70% of the price of an EV battery comes from the costs of just buying the basic materials needed \u2013 that means&nbsp;<em>the future price of<\/em>&nbsp;EVs is dominated by the future costs of those basic materials and is dependent on guesses about the future of foreign mining and minerals industries, not the labor and automation prowess at domestic assembly plants. Over the past half-dozen years, the often-cited long-run, rapid decline in battery costs has slowed dramatically. And now prices have increased some 20% since 2021. So far, that\u2019s with EVs still under 10% of total vehicle production. We\u2019re still in the early days of mineral demands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And it\u2019s with the acquisition of key materials where we find flaws with the core claims for emissions. The&nbsp;<em>energy<\/em>&nbsp;used and thus emissions from producing a pound of copper, nickel, and aluminum, for example, is two to three times greater than for steel. The numbers are higher for the other minerals. Importantly, as researchers at the Argonne National Labs have pointed out, relevant data for all the battery materials \u201cremain meager to nonexistent, forcing researchers to resort to engineering&nbsp;calculations&nbsp;or&nbsp;approximations.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That means every emissions claim is a rough estimate or an outright guess based on averages, approximations, assumptions, or aspirations. There are huge variables and uncertainties in the emissions from energy-intensive mining and the processing of minerals used to make EV batteries.&nbsp;<em>The simple fact is that no one knows how much CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;emissions will decline as materials production rises to build more EVs<\/em>. &nbsp;And all of the key variables point to higher, not lower, emissions in the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The energy used to obtain a pound of metal depends on the size, nature, and location of the mine. For copper, that number can vary at least two-fold, and for nickel by three-fold. Getting accurate information is complicated by the fact that 80%\u201390% of relevant minerals are mined and refined outside the U.S. and E.U. and will be for a long time regardless of subsidies. And, since China refines 50% \u2013 90% of the world\u2019s suite of energy minerals for EVs, it\u2019s relevant that its grid is two-thirds coal-fired \u2014 and will be for a long time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a dishonesty at the center of all the facile claims about big EV emissions reductions. In fact, nearly all studies making emissions claims are worse than guesses; the estimates frequently cherry-pick low numbers for what\u2019s really happening upstream. A meta-study of 50 different technical studies found the estimates of emissions varied by over 300%. And, worse, that analysis exposed the fact that most emissions claims were based on assuming the use of a small 30 kWh battery. That\u2019s one-third the size of batteries actually used in most EVs. Triple the battery size, and you triple the upstream emissions \u2013 and you triple the demand and thus price-pressure for the minerals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Upstream minerals emissions not only offset the savings from not burning gasoline but, as the demand for battery minerals explodes, the net emissions savings shrink and could even vanish. Reasonable, even likely scenarios will lead to EVs causing a net&nbsp;<em>increase<\/em>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<em>global<\/em>&nbsp;emissions. Geologists have long documented that ore grades have been and will continue declining. That\u2019s because global ore grades are declining \u2013 for the non-cognoscenti, that means for each new ton of mineral, there\u2019s a steady and unavoidable increase in the quantity of rock dug up and processed. A decrease of just 0.4% in copper ore grade will require seven times more energy to access the copper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unlike cars with internal combustion engines, it\u2019s impossible to measure an EV\u2019s CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;emissions. And, unlike cars, where those emissions are the same wherever or whenever the car is made or used, EV emissions vary wildly depending on how it\u2019s made and where it\u2019s used. While, self-evidently, there are no emissions while&nbsp;<em>driving<\/em>&nbsp;an EV, emissions occur elsewhere \u2014 not only upstream before the first mile is ever driven but also when the vehicle is parked to refuel. The latter, emissions from the grid, is also far more complex than simplistic forecasts assume. Real-world emissions from charging depend on precisely where and exactly when it\u2019s done. The refuel emissions can vary from near zero on a sunny day in some states and, in other states and times, to the same or more than would have come from burning gasoline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">None of this means that the lithium battery doesn\u2019t deserve a pivotal place in history. Its invention was consequential for many reasons, nearly all of which have little to do with EVs. Nor do the inconvenient complexities of mining and grids mean there won\u2019t be many more EVs in the future. Today\u2019s fleet of nearly 20 million EVs globally \u2014 notably half of which are in coal-burning China \u2014 will doubtless balloon to hundreds of millions of EVs on global roads in the coming couple of decades. But even such dramatic growth would mean that EVs would by then account for barely 15% of all consumer vehicles and far smaller share of industrial and commercial vehicles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By way of analogy, the future of EVs in land transportation ecosystems will end up echoing, in market share terms and for similar operational reasons, the role of helicopters in aviation. Helicopters offer very different and, in many applications, far more useful, even essential, features compared to conventional fixed-wing aircraft. That\u2019s why there\u2019s a very significant&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.fortunebusinessinsights.com\/industry-reports\/helicopter-market-101685\">$60 billion<\/a>&nbsp;a year global market for helicopters. Even so, helicopters are only&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/finance.yahoo.com\/news\/aircraft-manufacturing-global-market-report-175900381.html\">15%<\/a>&nbsp;of the overall global aircraft market. 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