{"id":285565,"date":"2023-10-29T11:46:26","date_gmt":"2023-10-29T10:46:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=285565"},"modified":"2023-10-29T11:46:29","modified_gmt":"2023-10-29T10:46:29","slug":"wind-power-investors-abandon-siemens-energy-another-shocking-37-fall-and-its-not-alone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=285565","title":{"rendered":"Wind-power Investors abandon Siemens Energy \u2014 another shocking 37% fall, and it\u2019s not alone"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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Shares of Siemens Energy crashed 37% in Germany.\u00a0The German company said, “The Executive Board is evaluating various measures to strengthen the balance sheet of Siemens Energy and is in preliminary talks with different stakeholders, including banking partners and the German government.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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From JoNova<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

By Jo Nova<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Marketing fantasies from the Boom Times of Wind. Who were they kidding? |\u00a0Siemens Gamesa<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s dire. After suffering a 36% fall in June due to unexpectedly bad maintenance bills, Siemens Energy has lost another 37% on Thursday as it revealed orders and revenue would be even lower than the current subdued expectations. The share that sold for 24 euro in May is now selling for 7.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Frankfurt Borse<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Things are so bad Olaf Scholz, Chancellor of Germany has even said Siemens Energy is \u201cvery important\u201d.  Apparently talks are \u201cintensive\u201d, which presumably means the company is on death\u2019s door and the German government is being asked to help save it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And so we arrive at a point where a company selling products that depend on government subsidies is now asking to be subsidized itself. And the whole green industry depended on government pumped \u201cscience\u201d and artificially low interest rates to exist in the first place. Like a pyramid scheme skiing on a two ponzi scams, sooner or later it has to collapse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tyler Durden, ZeroHedge<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Siemens Energy Shares Crash 37% As Renewable Bust Sparks \u2018Green Panic\u2019<\/a><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Siemens Energy shares in Germany crashed on Thursday after the company warned<\/a> its wind turbine business is grappling with quality issues and offshore ramp-up challenges. The company said it\u2019s evaluating various measures to strengthen its balance sheet and is discussing state guarantees with the German government. This comes as a financial crisis in offshore wind energy is brewing<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The word is Siemens Energy is asking for up to 15 billion euros in guarantees<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

UPDATE<\/strong>: Siemens Energy is a spin off from the larger separate giant Siemens which has a market cap of  100b Euro and 300,000 employees. The smaller energy division has 90,000 employees and a market cap of only 7b Euro now, but it was 30b a few years ago.  Siemens still owns 25% of the spin off energy division.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The whole wind industry is down<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Even the Guardian<\/em> is asking if something is is wrong in the whole wind industry<\/a>, albeit only as means of paving the way to ask for bigger subsidies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The windmill business has not recovered from the Siemen\u2019s June shock that bigger turbines was not always better, and ominously something was wrong which would cost an obscene amount to fix. It didn\u2019t bode well that the problem was narrowed down to either the rotor, the bearings \u201cor the design\u201d\u2013 which covered pretty much everything. By August Siemens Energy announced a jaw dropping annual loss of \u20ac4.5 billion<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Confidence is gone. In July the Swedish energy giant Vattenfall stopped work on the offshore wind farm plans off Norfolk.  In August the Danish wind firm \u00d8rsted lost 25%<\/a> after it revealed it may have to write off \u201d the value of its US portfolio by nearly \u00a32bn.\u201d  The share market was so skittish it wiped off nearly \u00a37bn in value that week. Overall the \u00d8rsted<\/a> share price has dropped by two-thirds from its peak in early 2021.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The latest headlines on Orsted, say it all:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Orsted: Sunrise Wind Project Likely to Be Ditched<\/a> After Failure to Get Extra Subsidies; Shares Cheap<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

A week ago Deutsche Bank  \u201cslashed its 12-month share price forecast for Danish energy giant \u00d8rsted by 36%, citing supplier delays, lower tax credits and rising rates.\u201d \u2014 CNBC<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Things haven\u2019t exactly been good for Vestas either:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Vestas is also down 30% this year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Frankfurt Bors<\/a>e<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Despite massive subsidies, bountiful good intentions and Draconian regulations on fossil fuel competitors green energy doesn\u2019t work and Net Zero is pure fantasy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is the rotor of the newest, largest offshore\u00a0Siemens SG 14MW\u00a0<\/a>. Look how big these machines are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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It will theoretically end up propped up on a stalk 140 meters high over the ocean waves, or something like that. The blades are 115m long. Imagine fixing it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

h\/t StJohnofGrafton<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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