{"id":279246,"date":"2023-09-18T09:35:25","date_gmt":"2023-09-18T07:35:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=279246"},"modified":"2023-09-18T09:35:28","modified_gmt":"2023-09-18T07:35:28","slug":"exxon-knew-california-sues-oil-giants-for-committing-free-speech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=279246","title":{"rendered":"Exxon Knew: California Sues Oil Giants for Committing Free Speech"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"368\" data-attachment-id=\"279252\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=279252\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?fit=1920%2C977&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,977\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?fit=723%2C368&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=723%2C368&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-279252\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=1024%2C521&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=300%2C153&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=768%2C391&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=1536%2C782&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?resize=1200%2C611&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/00df7949b2de274fd13466065ad8e605ef.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Essay by Eric Worrall<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Strangely the lawsuit does not include a demand oil giants immediately cease supplying their \u201ccatastrophic\u201d product to the State of California.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>California sues oil giants, saying they downplayed climate change. Here\u2019s what to know<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">September 16, 20233:08 PM ET<br>By&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/people\/1108419098\/juliana-kim\">Juliana Kim<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/people\/1134404086\/michael-copley\">Michael Copley<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The state of California has filed a sweeping climate lawsuit against Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP, ConocoPhillips, and Chevron, as well as the domestic oil industry\u2019s biggest lobby, the American Petroleum Institute.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.ca.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/FINAL-9-15-COMPLAINT.pdf\">The suit<\/a>, filed on Friday in San Francisco Superior Court, claims that the companies misled the public for decades about climate change and the dangers of fossil fuels. It demands the companies help fund recovery efforts related to California\u2019s extreme weather events, from rising sea levels to drought and wildfires, that have been supercharged by human-caused climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOil and gas companies have privately known the truth for decades \u2014 that the burning of fossil fuels leads to climate change \u2014 but have fed us lies and mistruths to further their record-breaking profits at the expense of our environment. Enough is enough,\u201d&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.ca.gov\/2023\/09\/16\/people-of-the-state-of-california-v-big-oil\/\">said Rob Bonta, California\u2019s attorney general<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">California filed its lawsuit against Exxon and other oil and gas companies just a day after<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/business\/energy-oil\/exxon-climate-change-documents-e2e9e6af?mod=hp_lead_pos7\"><em>&nbsp;The Wall Street Journal<\/em>&nbsp;<\/a>reported that executives at Exxon continued in recent years to raise doubts internally about the dangers of climate change and the need to cut back on oil and gas use, even as the company publicly conceded that burning fossil fuels contributes to global warming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2023\/09\/14\/1199570023\/exxon-climate-change-fossil-fuels-global-warming-oil-gas\"><\/a>Read more:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2023\/09\/16\/1199974919\/california-oil-lawsuit-climate-change\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2023\/09\/16\/1199974919\/california-oil-lawsuit-climate-change<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The referenced Wall Street Journal article is paywalled, but there are no amazing new revelations in there. Exxon admitted CO2 contributes to global warming \u2013 but no stunning confession of guilt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Californian lawsuit contains this gem;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">3. Defendants are large companies in the fossil fuel industry who have misled&nbsp;consumers and the public about climate change for decades. Defendants have known since at least &nbsp;the 1960s that fossil fuels produce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas (GHG) pollution that &nbsp;would warm the planet and change our climate.&nbsp;<strong>Defendants\u2019 own scientists knew as early as the &nbsp;1950s that these climate impacts would be catastrophic, and that there was only a narrow window &nbsp;of time<\/strong>&nbsp;in which communities and governments could take action before the consequences &nbsp;became catastrophic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">4. Rather than warn consumers, the public, and governments, however,&nbsp;<strong>Defendants mounted a disinformation campaign beginning at least as early as the 1970s to discredit the &nbsp;burgeoning scientific consensus on climate change<\/strong>; deny their own knowledge of climate change-&nbsp;related threats; create doubt in the minds of consumers, the media, teachers, policymakers, and &nbsp;the public about the reality and consequences of the impacts of burning fossil fuels; and delay the &nbsp;necessary transition to a lower-carbon future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026Read more:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.ca.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/FINAL-9-15-COMPLAINT.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.gov.ca.gov\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/FINAL-9-15-COMPLAINT.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just one problem with this claim \u2013 there is plenty of evidence none of this is true.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, the following is a copy of the Glaser 1982 memo, which was circulated to Exxon management.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!state.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1982_Exxon.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"Embed of 1982_Exxon.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-bfe2f05e-e478-4a22-b29a-3bd694db2cae\" href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1982_Exxon.pdf\">1982_Exxon<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1982_Exxon.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button wp-element-button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-bfe2f05e-e478-4a22-b29a-3bd694db2cae\">Herunterladen<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The memo, and bear in mind this was a private internal memo, is anything but certain that climate change will have catastrophic impact. For example, at the bottom of&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript: exxon_set_page(4);\">Page 4<\/a>, continuing to the top of&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript: exxon_set_page(5);\">Page 5<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cThere is currently&nbsp;<strong>no unambiguous evidence that the earth is warming<\/strong>. If the earth is on a warming trend, we\u2019re not likely to detect it before 1995. This is about the earliest projection of when the temperature might rise the 0.5\u00b0 needed to get beyond the range of normal temperature fluctuations. On the other hand, if climate modelling uncertainties have exaggerated the temperature rise, it is possible that a carbon dioxide induced \u201cgreenhouse effect\u201d may not be detected until 2020 at the earliest\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Remember,&nbsp;<strong>this memo was written in 1982<\/strong>, 30 years after the lawsuit claims \u201cDefendant\u2019s own scientists knew as early as the 1950s that these climate impacts would be catastrophic\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Worse, there were plenty of scientists at late as 1980 who&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2018\/11\/19\/the-1970s-global-cooling-consensus-was-not-a-myth\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">published papers suggesting the world was cooling.<\/a>&nbsp;There was a good reason for this \u2013&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/woodfortrees.org\/plot\/hadcrut4gl\/from:1940\/to:1980\/plot\/hadcrut4gl\/from:1940\/to:1980\/trend\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">between 1940 to 1980, global warming stalled<\/a>. For much of that period, the world cooled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate alarmists try to pretend there was never a global cooling consensus, but there is plenty of evidence reputable climate scientists were comfortable promoting global cooling theories. For example, the wildly popular 1978 documentary \u201cIn Search of The Coming Ice Age\u201d featured an impressive lineup of climate scientists, including&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/search?filters%5BauthorTerms%5D=Chester%20C.%20Langway%20%20Jr.&amp;eventCode=SE-AU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Chester Langway<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/James_D._Hays\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">James Hayes<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.colorado.edu\/origins\/people\/gifford-miller\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gifford Miller<\/a>&nbsp;(who described how the descent into the next ice age started 3000 years ago), and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Schneider\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stephen Schneider<\/a>, who speculated about using nuclear energy to melt the ice caps, to halt the big freeze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I remember watching the coming ice age documentary as a kid, and being impressed by the climate scientists who starred in the documentary. The entire \u201cIn search of\u201d series was prime time viewing in Australia, because the presenter was actor&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Leonard_Nimoy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Leonard Nimoy<\/a>, who played Dr. Spock in the original Star Trek series. All the grownups were worried and talking about the imminent ice age the next day, after the documentary aired on TV.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate scientist\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stephen_Schneider\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Stephen Schneider<\/a>, who appeared in the global cooling documentary,\u00a0and speculated about using nuclear reactors to melt the icecaps, later backflipped and became a significant figure in the global warming movement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cnsp_DGA_Xk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>In Search Of&#8230; The Coming Ice Age<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My point is given the eagerness of high profile climate scientists to appear in a documentary which promoted the global cooling scare, which was made in 1978, the lawsuit\u2019s accusation that scientists knew as early as the 1950s that global warming would have \u201ccatastrophic\u201d impacts is total nonsense.&nbsp;<strong>There were clearly mixed opinions on whether global warming or global cooling was a threat, well into the late 1970s.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What about the present day? Anyone who reads this website will know there are a significant number of well credentialed scientists who dispute the alleged consensus that global warming will have imminent and catastrophic impacts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The most glaring defect is the failure to demand the defendants immediately cease supplying their \u201ccatastrophic\u201d product.<\/strong>&nbsp;Fossil fuel producers aren\u2019t forcing people to accept fossil fuel. Given recent price rises, the market view could reasonably be interpreted as being that fossil fuel producers aren\u2019t providing enough fossil fuel, especially in California, where the prices people pay for fossil fuel are amongst the highest in the USA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lawsuit demands \u201cpermanent equitable relief\u201d \u2013 perhaps a lawyer can answer whether this implies California intends for oil companies to continue operating so they can pay regular large sums to the State of California, instead of forcing the oil companies to cease trading.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In my opinion, to demand a remedy for a \u201ccatastrophic\u201d product, while at the same time not demanding that remedy include a cessation of supply, is an utter absurdity which should be treated with the contempt it deserves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Update (EW): fixed a small issue with paragraph ordering.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p 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