{"id":277695,"date":"2023-09-07T16:36:25","date_gmt":"2023-09-07T14:36:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=277695"},"modified":"2023-09-07T16:36:28","modified_gmt":"2023-09-07T14:36:28","slug":"sun-and-water-drive-climate-not-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=277695","title":{"rendered":"Sun and Water Drive Climate, Not\u00a0Us"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"452\" data-attachment-id=\"277722\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277722\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?fit=1600%2C1000&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,1000\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?fit=723%2C452&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=723%2C452&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277722\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=1024%2C640&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=300%2C188&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=768%2C480&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=1536%2C960&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?resize=1200%2C750&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0b877010ffb513c92901aaa4b06dd8691.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/rclutz.com\/\">Science Matters<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/author\/ronaldrc\/\">Ron Clutz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dDuLAHnnOkY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">One year time lapse of precipitable water (amount of water in the atmosphere) from Jan 1, 2016 to Dec 31, 2016, as modeled by the GFS. The Pacific ocean rotates into view just as the tropical cyclone season picks up steam.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lately the media refers increasingly to how important is the water cycle in our climate system.\u00a0 Unfortunately, as usual, the headlines confuse cause and effect.\u00a0 For example,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2023-06-climate-impact-global.html\"><strong>Climate change has a dramatic impact on the global water cycle, say researchers.<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0from phys.org.\u00a0 How perverse to position climate change as an agent rather than the effect from water fluxes in the ocean and atmosphere. The headline misleads entirely (written by scientists or journos?) as the beginning texts shows (in italics with my bolds).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For Christoph Sch\u00e4r, ETH Zurich\u2019s Professor of Climate and Water Cycle, \u201cglobal warming\u201d is not quite accurate when it comes to<strong>\u00a0describing the driver of climate change<\/strong>. \u201cA better term would be\u00a0<strong>\u2018climate humidification,&#8217;\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0he explains.\u00a0<strong>\u201cMost of the solar energy that reaches the Earth serves to evaporate water and thereby drives the hydrological cycle.\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0Properly accounting for the implications of this is the most challenging task of all for climate modelers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"362\" data-attachment-id=\"277700\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277700\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?fit=800%2C400&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,400\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0a-world-in-flux-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?fit=723%2C362&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?resize=723%2C362&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?resize=300%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/0a-world-in-flux-1.jpg?resize=768%2C384&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In order to build a\u00a0<strong>global climate model, grid points<\/strong>\u00a0spaced around 50 to 100 kilometers apart are used. This scale is<strong>\u00a0too coarse to map small-scale, local thunderstorm cells.<\/strong>\u00a0Yet it is precisely these thunderstorm cells\u2014and where they occur\u2014<strong>that drive atmospheric circulation, especially in the tropics, where solar radiation is highest.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The workaround, at present, is to add extra parameters to the model in order to map clouds. \u201cBut\u00a0<strong>predicting future climate change is still pretty imprecise,\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0Sch\u00e4r says. \u201cIf\u00a0<strong>we don\u2019t know how many clouds are forming<\/strong>\u00a0in the tropics,\u00a0<strong>then we don\u2019t know how much sunlight<\/strong>\u00a0is hitting the earth\u2019s surface\u2014and hence we don\u2019t know the actual size of the global energy balance.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even worse from NewScientist<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/mg25934530-400-how-we-broke-the-water-cycle-and-can-no-longer-rely-on-rain-to-fall\/\">\u00a0<strong>How we broke the water cycle and can no longer rely on rain to fall.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0What hubris and how preposterous to\u00a0<strong>claim our puny CO2 emissions have upset hydrology.<\/strong>\u00a0 The lack of correlation is obvious to those who care to look:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"282\" data-attachment-id=\"277702\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277702\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?fit=1285%2C501&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1285,501\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-238\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?fit=723%2C282&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?resize=723%2C282&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277702\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?resize=1024%2C399&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?resize=300%2C117&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?resize=768%2C299&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?resize=1200%2C468&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-238.png?w=1285&amp;ssl=1 1285w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The climatist paradigm is myopic and lopsided.<\/strong>&nbsp; A previous&nbsp;<strong>post below provides a cure<\/strong>&nbsp;for those whose vision is impaired by the IPCC consensus view of climate reality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Curing Radiation Myopia Regarding Climate<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">E.M. Smith provides an helpful critique of a recent incomplete theory of earth\u2019s climate functioning in his Chiefio blog post\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/chiefio.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/12\/so-close-missing-convection-homeostasis\/\"><strong>So Close\u2013Missing Convection and Homeostasis<\/strong><\/a>. Excerpts in italics with my bolds and added images.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"277704\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277704\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?fit=1400%2C787&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1400,787\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-239\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277704\" style=\"width:759px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-239.png?w=1400&amp;ssl=1 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">It is Soooo easy to get things just a little bit off and miss reality. Especially in complex systems and even more so when folks raking in $Millions are interested in misleading for profit. Sigh.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Sabine Hosenfelder<\/strong>&nbsp;does a wonderful series of videos \u2018explaining\u2019 all sorts of interesting things in and about actual science and how the universe works. She is&nbsp;<strong>quite smart and generally \u201cknows her stuff\u201d.<\/strong>&nbsp;<strong>But<\/strong>\u2026 It looks like&nbsp;<strong>she has gotten trapped into the Radiative Model of Globull Warming.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The whole&nbsp;<strong>mythology of Global Warming depends on having you NOT think about anything but radiative processes and physics.<\/strong>&nbsp;To trap you into the Radiative Model. But the Earth is more complex than that. Much more complex. Then there\u2019s the fact that you DO have&nbsp;<strong>some essential Radiative Physics to deal with, so the bait is there.&nbsp; &nbsp;<\/strong>However\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">It is absolutely essential to pay attention to convection in the lower atmosphere<br>and to the \u201cfeedback loops\u201d or homeostasis in the system.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>The system acts to restore its original state. There is&nbsp;<strong>NO \u201crunaway greenhouse\u201d or we would have never evolved into being<\/strong>&nbsp;since the early earth had astoundingly high levels of CO2 and we would have baked to death before getting out of our slime beds as microbes.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"484\" data-attachment-id=\"277706\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277706\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?fit=823%2C551&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"823,551\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-240\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?fit=723%2C484&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?resize=723%2C484&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277706\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?w=823&amp;ssl=1 823w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?resize=300%2C201&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-240.png?resize=768%2C514&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Figure 16. The geological history of CO2 level and temperature proxy for the past 400 million years. CO2 levels now are ~ 400ppm. Source: Davis, W. J. (2017).<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>OK, I\u2019ll show you her video. It is quite good even with the \u201cswing and a miss\u201d at the end.&nbsp;<strong>She does 3 levels of The Greenhouse Gas Mythology<\/strong>&nbsp;so you can see the process&nbsp;<strong>evolving from grammar school to high school to college level of mythology. But then she doesn\u2019t quite make it to Post-Doc Reality.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Where\u2019s she wrong? (Well,&nbsp;<strong>not really wrong, but lacking<\/strong>\u2026)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>I see 2 major issues.&nbsp;<strong>First<\/strong>&nbsp;off, she talks about the<strong>&nbsp;\u201clower atmosphere warming\u201d<\/strong>. Well, yes and no. It&nbsp;<strong>doesn\u2019t \u201cwarm\u201d in the sense of getting hotter, but it does speed up convection to move the added heat flow<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">In English \u201cheating\u201d has 2 different meanings. Increasing temperature.<br>Increasing heat flow at a temperature.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>We see this in \u201cwarm up the TV dinner in the microwave\u201d meaning to heat it up from frozen to edible; and in the part where the frozen dinner is<strong>&nbsp;defrosting at a constant temperature as it absorbs heat but turns it into the heat of fusion of water.<\/strong>&nbsp;So you can \u201cwarm it up\u201d by melting at a constant temperature of frozen water (but adding a LOT of thermal energy \u2013 \u201cheat\u201d) then later as increasing temperature once the ice is melted. It is very important to keep in mind that there are 2 kinds of \u201cheating\u201d. NOT just \u201cincreasing temperature\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/oqu5DjzOBF8?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>In the lower atmosphere, the CO2 window \/ Infrared Window is already firmly slammed shut. Sabine \u201cgets that\u201d. Yay!<\/strong>&nbsp;One BIG point for her! No amount of \u201cgreenhouse gas\u201d is going to shut that IR window any more. As she points out, you get about 20 meters of transmission and then it is back to molecular vibrations (aka \u201cheat\u201d).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">So what\u2019s an atmosphere to do? It has heat to move! Well, it convects. It evaporates water.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Those 2 things dominate by orders of magnitude any sort of Radiative Model Physics.<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes, you have radiation of light bringing energy in, but then it goes into the ocean and into the dirt and the plants and even warms your skin on a sunny day. And it sits there. It does NOT re-radiate to any significant degree. Once \u201cwarmed\u201d by absorption,&nbsp;<strong>heat trying to leave as IR hits a slammed shut window.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"478\" data-attachment-id=\"277710\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277710\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?fit=850%2C562&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"850,562\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-241\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?fit=723%2C478&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?resize=723%2C478&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277710\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?w=850&amp;ssl=1 850w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-241.png?resize=768%2C508&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>The hydrological cycle. Estimates of the observed main water reservoirs (black numbers in 10^3 km3 ) and the flow of moisture through the system (red numbers, in 10^3 km3 yr \u00c01 ). Adjusted from Trenberth et al. [2007a] for the period 2002-2008 as in Trenberth et al. [2011].<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>So what does happen? Look around, what do you see? Clouds. Rain. Snow. (sleet hail fog etc. etc.)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Our planet is a&nbsp;<strong>Water Planet. It moves that energy (vibrations of atoms, NOT radiation) by having water evaporate into the atmosphere.<\/strong>&nbsp;(Yes, there are a few very dry deserts where you get some radiative effects and can get quite cold at night via radiation through very dry air, but our planet is 70% or so oceans, so those areas are minor side bars on the dominant processes).&nbsp;<strong>This water vapor makes the IR window even more closed (less distance to absorption). It isn\u2019t CO2 that matters, it is the global water vapor.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>What happens next?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Well,&nbsp;<strong>water holds a LOT of heat<\/strong>&nbsp;(vibration of atoms and NOT \u201ctemperature\u201d) as the heat of vaporization.&nbsp;<strong>About 540 calories per gram (compared to 80 for melting \u201cheat of fusion\u201d and 1 for specific heat of a gram of water)<\/strong>. Compare those numbers again. 1 for a gram of water. 80 for melting a gram of ice. 540 for evaporating a gram of water. It\u2019s dramatically the case that evaporation of water matters a lot more than melting ice, and both of them make \u201cwarming water\u201d look like an irrelevant thing.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Warming water is 1\/80 as important as melting ice, and it is 1\/540 th as important as evaporation of the surface of the water. Warming air is another order of magnitude less important to heat content.<\/mark><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"600\" data-attachment-id=\"277712\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277712\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?fit=850%2C705&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"850,705\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-242\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?fit=723%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?resize=723%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277712\" style=\"width:760px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?w=850&amp;ssl=1 850w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?resize=300%2C249&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-242.png?resize=768%2C637&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>So to have clue, one MUST look at the evaporation of water from the oceans as everything else is in the small change.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Look at any photo of the Earth from space. The Blue Marble covered in clouds. Water and clouds.<\/strong>&nbsp;The product of evaporation, convection, and condensation. Physical flows carrying all that heat (\u201cvibration of atoms\u201d and NOT temperature, remember).<strong>&nbsp;IF you add more heat energy, you can speed up the flows,<\/strong>&nbsp;but it will&nbsp;<strong>not cause a huge increase in temperature<\/strong>&nbsp;(and mostly none at all). It is mass flow that changes. The number of vibrating molecules at a temperature, not the temperature of each.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>In the end, a lot of mass flow happens, lofting all that water vapor with all that heat of vaporization way up toward the Stratosphere. This is why we have a troposphere, a tropopause (where it runs out of steam\u2026 literally\u2026) and a stratosphere.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>What happens when it gets to the stratosphere boundary? Well, along the way that water vapor turns into water liquid very tiny drops&nbsp;<strong>(clouds) and eventually condenses to big drops of water (rain) and some of it even freezes (hail, snow, etc.).<\/strong>&nbsp;Now think about that for a minute. That\u2019s&nbsp;<strong>540 calories per gram of heat<\/strong>&nbsp;(molecular vibration NOT temperature, remember) being \u201c<strong>dumped<\/strong>\u201d way up high&nbsp;<strong>in the top of the troposphere<\/strong>&nbsp;as it condenses, and&nbsp;<strong>another 80 \/ gram if if freezes.<\/strong>&nbsp;620 total. That\u2019s just huge.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>This is WHY we have a globe covered with rain, snow, hail, etc. etc. THAT is all that heat moving. NOT any IR Radiation from the surface. Let that sink in a minute. Fix it in your mind.&nbsp;<strong>WATER and ICE and Water Vapor are what moves the heat, not radiation<\/strong>. We ski on it, swim in it, have it water our crops and flood the land. That\u2019s huge and it is ALL evidence of heat flows via heat of vaporization and fusion of water.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>It is all those giga-tons of water cycling to snow, ice and rain, then falling back to be lofted again as evaporation in the next cycle. That\u2019s&nbsp;<strong>what moves the heat to the stratosphere where CO2 then radiates it to space<\/strong>&nbsp;(after all, radiation toward the surface hits that closed IR window and stops.) At most, more CO2 can let the Stratosphere radiate (and \u201ccool\u201d) better. It can not make the Troposphere any less convective and non-radiative.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#e81515\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Then any more energy \u201ctrapped\u201d at the surface would just run the mass transport water cycle faster. It would not increase the temperature.<\/mark><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>More molecules would move, but at a limit on temperature.&nbsp;<strong>Homeostasis wins. We can see this already in the Sub-Tropics.<\/strong>&nbsp;As the seasons move to fall and winter, water flows slow dramatically. I have to water my Florida lawn and garden. As the seasons move to spring and summer, the mass flow picks up dramatically. Eventually reaching hurricane size. Dumping up to FEET of condensed water (that all started as warm water vapor evaporating from the ocean). It is presently headed for about 72 F today (and no rain). At the peak of hurricane season, we get to about 84 or 85 F ocean surface temperature as the water vapor cycle is running full blast and we get \u201cfrog strangler\u201d levels of rain. That\u2019s the difference. Slow water cycle or fast.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>IF (and it is only an \u201cif\u201d, not a when) you could manage<strong>&nbsp;to increase the heat at the surface<\/strong>&nbsp;of the planet in, say, Alaska: At most you would get&nbsp;<strong>a bit more rain in summer, a bit more snow in winter<\/strong>, and MAYBE only a slight possible, of one or two days that are rain which could have been snow or sleet.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"254\" data-attachment-id=\"277714\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277714\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?fit=3070%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3070,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-243\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?fit=723%2C254&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=723%2C254&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277714\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=1024%2C360&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=300%2C106&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=768%2C270&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=1536%2C540&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=2048%2C720&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?resize=1200%2C422&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-243.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Then there\u2019s the fact that natural cycles swamp all of that CO2 fantasy anyway.<\/strong>&nbsp;The Sun, as just one example, had a large change of IR \/ UV levels with both the Great Pacific Climate Shift (about 1975) and then back again in about 2000.&nbsp;<strong>Planetary tilt, wobble, eccentricity of the orbit and more put us in ice ages (as we ARE right now, but in an \u201cinterglacial\u201d in this ice age\u2026<\/strong>&nbsp;a nice period of warmth that WILL end) and pulls us out of them. Glacials and interglacials come and go on various cycles (100,000 years, 40,000 years, and 12,000 year interglacials \u2013 ours ending now, but slowly). The simple fact is that<strong>&nbsp;Nature Dominates, and we are just not relevant. To think we are is hubris of the highest order.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>See Also\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/rclutz.com\/2018\/10\/26\/bill-gray-h20-is-climate-control-knob-not-co2\/\">\u00a0Bill Gray: H20 is Climate Control Knob, not CO2<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"404\" data-attachment-id=\"277715\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277715\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-244.png?fit=724%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"724,405\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-244\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-244.png?fit=723%2C404&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-244.png?resize=723%2C404&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277715\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-244.png?w=724&amp;ssl=1 724w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-244.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"364\" data-attachment-id=\"277716\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277716\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-245.png?fit=747%2C376&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"747,376\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-245\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-245.png?fit=723%2C364&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-245.png?resize=723%2C364&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277716\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-245.png?w=747&amp;ssl=1 747w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-245.png?resize=300%2C151&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Figure 9: Two contrasting views of the effects of how the continuous intensification of deep cumulus convection would act to alter radiation flux to space. The top (bottom) diagram represents a net increase (decrease) in radiation to space<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h5 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Footnote<\/strong><\/h5>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are two main reasons why investigators are skeptical of AGW (anthropogenic global warming) alarm. This post intends to be an antidote to myopic and lop-sided understandings of our climate system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>CO2 Alarm is Myopic: Claiming CO2 causes dangerous global warming is too simplistic. CO2 is but one factor among many other forces and processes interacting to make weather and climate.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.harvard.edu\/pamphlet\/files\/2013\/07\/myopic.jpg\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:760px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Myopia is a failure of perception by&nbsp;focusing on one near thing to the exclusion of the other realities present, thus missing the big picture. For example: \u201cNot seeing the forest for the trees.\u201d &nbsp;AKA \u201ctunnel vision.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2. CO2 Alarm is Lopsided: CO2 forcing is too small to have the overblown effect claimed for it. Other factors are orders of magnitude larger than the potential of CO2 to influence the climate system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"601\" height=\"336\" data-attachment-id=\"277720\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=277720\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-247.png?fit=601%2C336&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"601,336\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-247\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-247.png?fit=601%2C336&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-247.png?resize=601%2C336&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-277720\" style=\"width:760px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-247.png?w=601&amp;ssl=1 601w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/image-247.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 601px) 100vw, 601px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lop-sided refers to a failure in judging values, whereby someone lacking in sense of proportion, places great weight on a factor which actually has a minor influence compared to other forces. For example: \u201cMaking a mountain out of a mole hill.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The whole\u00a0mythology of Global Warming depends on having you NOT think about anything but radiative processes and physics.\u00a0To trap you into the Radiative Model. But the Earth is more complex than that. Much more complex. 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