{"id":274878,"date":"2023-08-21T21:22:50","date_gmt":"2023-08-21T19:22:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=274878"},"modified":"2023-08-21T21:22:54","modified_gmt":"2023-08-21T19:22:54","slug":"consumers-carry-colossal-cost-of-getting-wind-solar-from-nowhere-to-somewhere","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=274878","title":{"rendered":"Consumers Carry Colossal Cost of Getting Wind &amp; Solar From Nowhere to\u00a0Somewhere"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"470\" data-attachment-id=\"274888\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=274888\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?fit=1959%2C1272&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1959,1272\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;\\u00a9 Stephen Hancock 2013&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?fit=723%2C470&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=723%2C470&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-274888\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=1024%2C665&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=300%2C195&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=768%2C499&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=1536%2C997&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?resize=1200%2C779&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?w=1959&amp;ssl=1 1959w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00-blackout-GettyImages-466231145-770.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/stopthesethings.com\/\">STOP THESE THINGS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"274879\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=274879\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/image-855.png?fit=620%2C413&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"620,413\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-855\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/image-855.png?fit=620%2C413&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/image-855.png?resize=723%2C482&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-274879\" style=\"width:759px;height:506px\" width=\"723\" height=\"482\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/image-855.png?w=620&amp;ssl=1 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/image-855.png?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The grand wind and solar transition comes with a staggering pricetag, not least the $trillions required to connect far-flung wind turbines and solar panels to increasingly distant markets. Building a secondary network of high voltage transmission lines and interconnectors to carry the power occasionally generated by wind turbines and solar panels, spread far and wide, is yet another of those costs which the wind industry and its zealot promoters sweep under the carpet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Australia, the increasingly remote locations chosen for wind and solar generators require serious upgrades to transmission infrastructure,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2019-02-17\/rural-victoria-power-networks-to-buckle-under-wind-energy\/10808534\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">adding hundreds of $millions to transmission costs<\/a>, that would have otherwise been avoided, had we simply stuck with conventional generators and not squandered\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.com\/2018\/04\/16\/ticket-to-oblivion-australias-60bn-wind-solar-subsidy-gravy-train-rolls-until-2031\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">$60,000,000,000 in subsidies<\/a>\u00a0to intermittent wind and solar. As any first-year physics student will tell you, transmitting electricity over distances results in a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Electric_power_transmission\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">mathematically predictable loss<\/a>\u00a0of the power transmitted, over any given distance. The greater the distance, the greater the absolute loss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that is not what ought to concern Australian power consumers. Rather, it\u2019s the fact that they will end up carrying the colossal cost of building the infrastructure, in the first place; a cost that the wind and sun cult, which includes the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) readily ignore,\u00a0 because they don\u2019t bear it, consumers do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A once proud and worthy scientific research organization, CSIRO has become little more than a propaganda outfit, pushing hopelessly intermittent wind and solar as the only answer to a changing climate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> has peddled a rabid anti-carbon dioxide gas stance for almost 20 years \u2013 of course, it only frets about CO2 generated by human activity, not the naturally occuring kind. Given its anti-human-generated CO2 rhetoric, the fact its so-called scientists actively advocate against nuclear power says it all, really.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A while back, in an effort to promote the wind and sun cult\u2019s cause, CSIRO put together a report \u2013 called GenCost \u2013 purportedly detailing a cost comparison between our current predominantly coal-fired grid and a mythical future grid powered only by wind and solar, gas and a little hydro.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Turns out, its GenCost report is based on a series of half-truths, heroic assumptions and flat-out lies. Starting with the fact that it ignores the hundred-billion-dollar cost of building banks of mythical mega-batteries, the (otherwise unnecessary) transmission infrastructure required to bring occasionally generated wind and solar power from remote locations, as well as the grand (but unlikely to ever be completed) Snowy 2.0 pumped hydro project and \u2013 yet to be built \u2013 large capacity open cycle gas turbine peaking plants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To call it \u2018lying by omission\u2019, is an understatement of some magnitude, as the team from Jo Nova explains below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Don\u2019t look now: Accounting trick destroys national economy<\/strong><br>Jo Nova Blog<br>Jo Nova<br>28 July 2028<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How to hide $100b storage, transmission lines, battery costs in a dodgy accounting trick.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The cost for our whole national $100 billion dollar energy transition apparently rests on a CSIRO report that assumes we\u2019ve already spent the infrastructure money \u201ctherefore\u201d future costs after 2030 are almost nothing. It\u2019s like a Nigerian email scam\u2026 except that it has fooled our Minister for Energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>You have been selected to win a new national electricity grid, just give us your economy\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chris Bowen, said Minister, thinks wind and solar will reduce the cost of electricity, despite them doing the opposite so far.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Communication pollution, media, the CSIRO GenCost report says that renewables are cheap if we pretend we have already spent the money on the transmissions lines, the pumped storage, the \u201cfirming\u201d of the grid. It\u2019s like a used car salesman that says the second hand electric car will be cheap to run while hiding the twenty grand you have to spend on a new battery before it can move out the door\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a circular reasoning here that says we assume it\u2019s worth spending bezillions now because renewables will be cheap after we have spent bezillions. But that\u2019s only true if we assume the bezillions are a sunk cost we\u2019ve already spent. See how this scam works? The bill never comes in. Somewhere someone lost $100 billion dollars and no one at our once hallowed Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) even noticed. It\u2019s like living in an Escher puzzle where you walk up the endless stairs to renewable heaven but never get there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Why our energy transition needs a price tag<\/strong><br>The\u00a0 Australian<br>Claire Lehmann<br>28 July 2023<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Writing in the Fresh Economic Thinking publication, Aidan Morrison points out that the CSIRO\u2019s claim that renewables are the \u201ccheapest\u201d form of energy rests almost entirely on a misapplication of the \u201csunk cost\u201d assumption.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In many situations, it makes sense to account for sunk costs. But the concept should always apply to money spent in the past, not in the future. By definition, costs that have not been incurred yet are avoidable, and are not yet sunk<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBy use of a bizarre \u2018sunk-cost\u2019 assumption in their modelling, CSIRO cleaves the cost of infrastructure built prior to 2030 (when we would supposedly already have reached over 50 per cent renewable penetration) from any solar and wind generators built thereafter that might depend on that infrastructure,\u201d Morrison writes in Fresh Economic Thinking. The CSIRO lists the projects that are written off as sunk: \u201cSnowy 2.0 and the battery of the nation pumped hydro projects \u2026 various transmission expansion projects \u2026 New South Wales gas peaking plants at Kurri Kurri and Illawarra \u2026 The NSW target for an additional 2GW of at least eight hours duration storage is assumed to be met by 2030.\u201d In response to this list, Morrison quips: \u201cI\u2019m losing count of the billions.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEvery economist, politician, and policymaker relying on this report simply must hear about this,\u201d<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theaustralian.com.au\/commentary\/why-our-energy-transition-needs-a-price-tag\/news-story\/17af9fe36811cda805449e4e0505b895\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em><strong>The Australian<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBusiness as usual\u201d for the CSIRO is a plan where billions of dollars was already deployed and the projects are finished (and we have even paid them off too).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Assume renewables are cheap, assume infrastructure is free, isn\u2019t this fun?<\/strong><br>This is the quote from the CSIRO where they blithely magic all the infrastructure into existence \u201cfor free\u201d, just in case anyone wonders whether they really could do something so absurd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSnowy 2.0 and battery of the nation pumped hydro projects are\u00a0<strong>assumed<\/strong>\u00a0to be constructed before 2030 in the BAU as well as various transmission expansion projects already flagged by the ISP process to be necessary before 2030. New South Wales (NSW) gas peaking plants at Kurri Kurri and Illawarra are\u00a0<strong>assumed<\/strong>\u00a0to have been constructed. The NSW target for an additional 2 GW of at least 8 hours duration storage is also\u00a0<strong>assumed<\/strong>\u00a0to be met by 2030.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aiden Morrison is scathing, staggered, aghast \u2014 the CSIRO is assuming all the infrastructure was a private investment and therefore we don\u2019t have to pay:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-left is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The \u2018sunk cost\u2019 trickery that makes renewables seem cheaper than they are\u00a0<\/strong><br>Fresh Economic Thinking<br>Aiden Morrison<br>23 July 2023<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">How CSIRO justifies the exclusions: \u201cSunk Cost\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2026But wait, this deception is so brazen and transparent, surely someone else would have raised this in an earlier draft or something? Oh, but they have. CSIRO devotes several pages to exactly such an objection. (Page 94, Appendix D, Section 2.3)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What the authors of CSIRO\u2019s GenCost said in response, is simply staggering. Every economist, politician, and policymaker relying on this report simply must hear about this. They explicitly and clearly defend the idea that all the prior investment must be treated as \u2018sunk\u2019. They\u2019re adamant that these investments are like risky private investments and therefore there must be a penalty for bad investments made by people who didn\u2019t adequately study what would most likely be required in the future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perhaps most incredibly, they explicitly make this claim:<\/p>\n<cite>The market does not owe the owner a reasonable return on their investment.<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In reality all these monster infrastructure builds were only justified in the first place on the basis that they will enable lots of future unreliable solar and wind power, and the costs will be added to what we call the \u201cregulated asset base\u201d which guarantees a return to the investors and is quietly added to electricity bills.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The whole renewables case is a crooked card game from scientific start to economic end.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/joannenova.com.au\/2023\/07\/playing-now-accounting-trick-destroys-national-economy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em><strong>Jo Nova Blog<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"402\" data-attachment-id=\"274887\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=274887\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?fit=1272%2C707&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1272,707\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00transmission\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?fit=723%2C402&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?resize=723%2C402&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-274887\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?resize=1024%2C569&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?resize=300%2C167&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?resize=768%2C427&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?resize=1200%2C667&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/00transmission.webp?w=1272&amp;ssl=1 1272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The grand wind and solar transition comes with a staggering pricetag, not least the $trillions required to connect far-flung wind turbines and solar panels to increasingly distant markets. 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