{"id":265444,"date":"2023-07-04T19:44:36","date_gmt":"2023-07-04T17:44:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=265444"},"modified":"2023-07-04T19:44:39","modified_gmt":"2023-07-04T17:44:39","slug":"dont-get-the-idea-that-internet-censorship-is-diminishing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=265444","title":{"rendered":"Don&#8217;t Get The Idea That Internet Censorship Is Diminishing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"362\" data-attachment-id=\"265449\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=265449\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?fit=1680%2C840&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1680,840\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0avoid-censorship\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?fit=723%2C362&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=723%2C362&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-265449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=1024%2C512&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=300%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=768%2C384&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=1536%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?resize=1200%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?w=1680&amp;ssl=1 1680w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/blog\/2023-7-3-the-latest-on-internet-censorship\">The MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By <a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattancontrarian.com\/?author=503a7965e4b0b543ed24305c\">Francis Menton<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">II owe an apology to all readers for the temporarily reduced frequency of posting. I\u2019m currently in Italy on a family vacation. On multiple occasions over the past several years, I have taken family vacations\u2014 including to semi-developed places like Russia and Vietnam \u2014 without significant effect on my ability to post on the blog. However, the internet service where I currently find myself in Italy is remarkably poor, and not sufficient to support the kind of research it takes to do one of my usual posts. So please have patience. I\u2019ll be back to my usual routine next week.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Meanwhile, let me relay some information that people have sent me. Greg Wrightstone, Executive Director of the CO2 Coalition, sends along some truly shocking information about ongoing big tech censorship of the climate debate. Things may have improved at Twitter over the past few months, but Twitter is only one of several of the big tech behemoths. At the others, little has changed. Indeed, things may be continuing to get worse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you are unfamiliar with it, the <a href=\"https:\/\/co2coalition.org\/\">CO2 Coalition <\/a>is the premier organization of scientists and science-oriented people who are skeptical of the claims of the weird pagan cult that currently dominate public debate on the subject of climate. The large majority of top-rank climate scientists who actually know what they are talking about are members of the Coalition. (The exceptions are generally people who have declined to join because of well-founded fears of adverse career consequences should they associate themselves with the group.). Dr. William Happer, the senior atmospheric physicist at Princeton, is the Chair of the Coalition. The Coalition also includes as members various science-oriented people who regularly contribute to the public climate debate. In that category, I joined by invitation a couple of years ago.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of the more notable recent additions to the Coalition is a guy named John Clauser. Clauser happens to be one of the winners of the latest (2022) Nobel Prize in physics. The work for which Clauser won the Nobel Prize is on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/biography\/John-F-Clauser\">a specific issue called \u201cquantum entanglement.\u201d<\/a> But he is clearly a brilliant physicist, and physics generally is highly relevant to the subject of the world\u2019s climate. Also, like many other actual top scientists, Clauser is a \u201cclimate skeptic.\u201d Finally, Clauser has not only joined the CO2 Coalition, but in May he became a board member.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On <a href=\"https:\/\/co2coalition.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/JohnClauserClimateChangeKorean.pdf\">June 26 in Seoul, Clauser gave a keynote speech<\/a> at a conference called Quantum Korea. Wrightstone was provided with an English version of the remarks, and excerpted several key lines to create <a href=\"https:\/\/co2coalition.org\/news\/nobel-laureate-dr-john-clauser-i-dont-believe-there-is-a-climate-crisis\/\">a page on the CO2 Coalition website<\/a> and also a Facebook post. Here (from the CO2 Coalition site) are some quotes and paraphrases from Clauser\u2019s presentation, with quotation marks indicating which are direct quotes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>\u201cThe world we live in today is filled with misinformation. It is up to each of you to serve as judges, distinguishing truth from falsehood based on accurate observations of phenomena.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>\u201cMisinformation is being spread by those with political and opportunistic motives.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>Dr. Clauser, known for his stance [with respect to] climate change, diagnosed the current situation as not being a climate crisis and criticized the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) for spreading misinformation.<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>He stated, \u201cI don\u2019t believe there is a climate crisis\u201d and expressed his belief that \u201ckey processes are exaggerated and misunderstood by approximately 200 times.\u201d<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to Wrightstone, here is what happened next at Facebook:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Our post and ad promoting it [were] removed by Facebook on July 1.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wrightstone provides the following screenshot from Facebook:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\" id=\"yui_3_17_2_1_1688492302785_74\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"330\" data-attachment-id=\"265447\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=265447\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?fit=966%2C441&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"966,441\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?fit=723%2C330&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?resize=723%2C330&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-265447\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?w=966&amp;ssl=1 966w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?resize=300%2C137&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0Screenshot-2023-07-04-194046.png?resize=768%2C351&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The picture shows Clauser delivering his address at the conference in Korea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Next, one day later, an ad promoting the image that adorns our Facebook page and carries our unofficial motto \u201cWe Love CO2 and So Should You\u201d was removed and censored. The only text we posted was \u201cWhat\u2019s not to love?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s a screenshot of that rejected ad, and Facebook\u2019s response:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\" id=\"yui_3_17_2_1_1688492302785_99\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"218\" data-attachment-id=\"265448\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=265448\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?fit=1000%2C301&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1000,301\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?fit=723%2C218&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?resize=723%2C218&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-265448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?resize=300%2C90&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0ScreenShot2023-07-03at5.00.53PM.png?resize=768%2C231&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Wrightstone concludes: <em>\u201cThese are troubling times we live in.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I should also mention that Wrightstone and the CO2 Coalition have been permanently banned from LinkedIn. Wrightstone calls it \u201cLinked Out.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The stupids are truly in control of much of the world right now. We\u2019ll see how long it continues.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Next, one day later, an ad promoting the image that adorns our Facebook page and carries our unofficial motto \u201cWe Love CO2 and So Should You\u201d was removed and censored. The only text we posted was \u201cWhat\u2019s not to love?\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":265449,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818056,691818076,691820780,691818381],"class_list":{"0":"post-265444","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-climate-change","9":"tag-co2","10":"tag-internet-censorship","11":"tag-ipcc","13":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/0avoid-censorship.webp?fit=1680%2C840&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-173m","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":363520,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=363520","url_meta":{"origin":265444,"position":0},"title":"Facebook \u201cFact Checks\u201d Prof. Will Happer","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"26\/01\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"The only way to combat censorship is to shine a light on it whenever we see it. 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