{"id":259367,"date":"2023-05-27T15:26:14","date_gmt":"2023-05-27T13:26:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=259367"},"modified":"2023-05-27T15:26:17","modified_gmt":"2023-05-27T13:26:17","slug":"the-holocene-co2-dilemma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=259367","title":{"rendered":"The Holocene CO2 Dilemma"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"563\" data-attachment-id=\"254941\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=254941\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?fit=2571%2C2000&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2571,2000\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Michael&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1409902336&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Models-v-reality-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?fit=723%2C563&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=723%2C563&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-254941\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=1024%2C797&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=300%2C233&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=768%2C597&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=1536%2C1195&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=2048%2C1593&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?resize=1200%2C933&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/\">Watts Up With That?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Guest Post By Renee Hannon<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This post evaluates the relationship of global CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;with regional temperature trends during the Holocene interglacial period. Ice core records show that CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is strongly coupled with local Antarctic temperature and slightly lags temperature over the past 800,000 years (Luthi, 2008). Whereas the emphasis has been on CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;and temperature lags\/leads, this study focuses on Holocene millennium trends in different latitude-bounded regions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The Contrarian Antarctic<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Holocene is fortunate to have hundreds of proxy records analyzed by Marcott, 2013, and more recently Kaufman, 2020, to establish regional and global temperature trends. The Holocene interglacial occurs approximately during the past 11,000 years. In general, global temperature trends from proxy data show a Holocene Climatic Optimum (HCO) around 6000 to 8000 years ago and a subsequent cooling trend, the Neoglacial period, culminating in the Little Ice Age (LIA). The global mean temperature is comprised of regional trends that tend to have a concave down appearance during the Holocene shown in Figure 1a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The exception is the Antarctic shown in red which has a concave up shape. The Antarctic reached an early Holocene Climatic Optimum between 9000 to 11000 years ago. While global and most regional temperatures were warming, Antarctic\u00a0cooled to a minimum around 8000 years ago. While global and other regions show progressive cooling during the Neoglacial, the Antarctic was flat and erratic. This contrary Antarctic temperature behavior during the Holocene has also been noted by Andy May\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/andymaypetrophysicist.com\/2023\/02\/04\/the-ipcc-ar6-report-erases-the-holocene\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"259369\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=259369\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-1.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,405\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0figure-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-1.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-1.webp?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-259369\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-1.webp?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-1.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\">Figure 1: a) Regional temperature anomalies (defined by latitude) from proxy data over the Holocene after Kaufman, 2020a. Red line is Antarctic. Black solid line is the global median. b) Ice core proxy data from Vinther Greenland temperature anomalies in green and Dome C Antarctic in red. Global temperature means from Kaufman and Marcott are included. CO2 shown as dark grey dots from Bereiter are included on both graphs. Left axis is temperature anomaly (deg C) and right axis is CO2 (ppm).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Greenland and Antarctic ice core temperature anomalies derived from deuterium and\/or oxygen isotopes and global proxy temperature means are shown in Figure 1b. Ice cores have high resolution over long periods of time making them a key proxy dataset. These data show similar trends to the regional compilation. However, temperature ranges tend to be larger at individual proxy sites. Smoothing of paleoclimate proxy data occurs due to averaging of multiple data types together which removes local temperature variability (Kaufman, 2023).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s not surprising that Antarctic temperature trends behave differently due to its unique environment. Antarctica is a continent surrounded by the Southern Ocean with a mean annual temperature of the interior between -50 to -60 deg C. Most of Antarctica is covered by a permanent ice sheet averaging 2 km in thickness. Sparse proxy data from Antarctica is predominantly from ice cores and a few marine sediments. These data comprise temperature trends in the 90<sup>o<\/sup>S-60<sup>o<\/sup>S latitude region which represent less than 10% of Earth\u2019s surface area.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a><\/a><strong>CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is Uniquely Synchronous with Antarctic Temperatures<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;gas trapped in ice bubbles show synchronous trends with local Antarctic temperature anomalies during glacial and interglacial periods over the past 800,000 years. CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;ranges from lows of 180 ppm during glacial periods to highs of near 300 ppm during interglacial periods. Figure 2a shows the linear regression of CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;and temperature from the EPICA Dome C ice core over the past 60,000 years that includes the Holocene interglacial and last glacial maximum. The squared regression (R<sup>2<\/sup>) of 0.9 is very impressive. One interesting curiosity is the Holocene interglacial period where the slope tends to flatten out and R<sup>2<\/sup>&nbsp;decreases substantially to 0.3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Despite the lower correlation factor for the Holocene interglacial, Figure 1a above shows that CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0displays concave up trends like Antarctic temperature trends. CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0reaches an early Holocene high near 275 ppm around 11,000 years ago after deglaciation. CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0then slowly decreases by 10-15 ppm to a Holocene minimum of 260 ppm about 8000 years ago. And then, CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0gradually increases up to 290 ppm during the Neoglacial cooling period. To note, these CO<sub>2<\/sub>\u00a0values are muted or smoothed due to gas trapping processes in ice and do not reflect instrumental values (Joos, 2008).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"259371\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=259371\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-2.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,405\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0figure-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-2.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-2.webp?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-259371\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-2.webp?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-2.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center wp-block-paragraph\">Figure 2. a) Ice core EPICA Dome C correlation of temperature anomalies with CO2 over the past 60,000 years in grey. The Holocene interglacial period is highlighted in red. b) Correlation of temperature anomalies from Antarctic proxy data 90<sup>o<\/sup>S-60<sup>o<\/sup>S with CO2. c) Correlation of temperature anomalies from Arctic 60<sup>o<\/sup>N-90<sup>o<\/sup>N and NH 30<sup>o<\/sup>N-60<sup>o<\/sup>N proxy data with CO2. d) Correlation of temperature anomalies from tropical proxy data 30<sup>o<\/sup>S-30<sup>o<\/sup>N with CO2. CO2 data from Bereiter, 2014. High resolution proxy data from Kaufman, 2020b.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Correlation plots of Holocene CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;versus temperature anomalies from high resolution regional proxy temperatures are shown in Figures 2b-d. They are much different than the 60,000-year Antarctic CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;relationship in Figure 2a. The Arctic and the Northern Hemisphere regions (2c) show an inverse relationship with CO<sub>2<\/sub>, especially during the Neoglacial period. The tropical region (2d) shows large scatter with no statistically valid trend detected. The Southern Hemisphere, not shown, also has a low correlation with CO<sub>2<\/sub>. No other multi-proxy region or latitude temperature trends show a strong positive correlation with CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;during the Holocene like the Antarctic does.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Authors have noted that CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;has a different trend compared to global and Northern Hemisphere temperature trends. Vinos, 2022, concludes that CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;runs opposite to global temperature trends for most of the Holocene. This CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;asynchronous behavior and\/or lack of correlation to temperature seems to be true for most regions, roughly 90% of the Earth\u2019s surface area.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Climate Models Dominated by CO2 Forcing<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate models fail to match global Holocene proxy temperatures known as the Holocene temperature conundrum (Liu, 2014). Models basically show a gradual increase in temperatures throughout the entire Holocene as shown in Figure 3a. While temperature proxy data shows a Holocene Climatic Optimum of 0.5 deg C around 6000-8000 years ago that climate models simply do not reproduce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"259373\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=259373\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-3.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,405\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0figure-3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-3.webp?fit=720%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-3.webp?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-259373\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-3.webp?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0figure-3.webp?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Figure 3. &nbsp;a) Global proxy median temperature anomalies from Kaufman compared to modeled annual ensemble mean (3 models) from Liu and a model that incorporates proxy data from Osman. CO2 is shown as green dots from Bereiter. b) CO2 correlated with the global proxy median from Kaufman, and c) CO2 correlated with modeled annual ensemble mean from Liu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Holocene global proxy temperature trends show an inverse correlation with CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;as plotted in Figure 3b. There are two distinct inverse trends separated by the HCO. During the Neoglacial period, proxy temperatures and CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;show a strong negative correlation with an R<sup>2<\/sup>&nbsp;of 0.8. Basically, as CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;increases then global temperatures become cooler.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Temperatures from model simulations are typically&nbsp;controlled by changes in greenhouse gases, insolation, ice sheets, and freshwater fluxes, to name a few. Modeled temperature profiles parallel the global CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;trend with a strong R<sup>2<\/sup>&nbsp;of 0.7 confirming CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is a major model control knob. Additionally, modeled Holocene temperatures tend to resemble the contrarian Antarctic temperature trends (compare Figures 1a and 3a).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Scientists have begun to investigate the effect and possible dominance of forcings other than CO<sub>2<\/sub>. Zhang, 2022, modeled the effect of seasonal insolation influence and found better matches to proxy data when combining insolation with ice sheet forcing, although still not perfect. Thompson, 2022, showed that more vegetation influence in the Northern Hemisphere helps models simulate a Holocene Climatic Optimum evident in proxy data. The close relationship between CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;and Antarctic temperature suggests that millennial variations are strongly influenced by Southern Ocean processes. Only when past forcings and the timing of their dominance are more accurately incorporated into climate simulations will models be able to predict future climate change.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Observations<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Climate change is routinely claimed to be largely controlled by greenhouse gases, especially CO<sub>2<\/sub>. This was concluded, in part, by the strong relationship between CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;from Antarctic ice core bubbles and local Antarctic temperature trends. While CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;mimics Antarctic temperatures very well, ninety percent of Earth\u2019s surface temperature trends do not demonstrate a positive correlation to CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;during the Holocene. Arctic and Northern Hemisphere temperatures become cooler during increasing CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;levels. Tropical proxy temperatures don\u2019t seem to be influenced by CO<sub>2<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Model simulated temperatures which are strongly influenced by CO<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;do not accurately history match Holocene global proxy temperatures and tend to largely reflect Antarctic trends. The fact that CO<sub>2&nbsp;<\/sub>correlates well to Holocene temperatures for only the Antarctic, or &lt;10% of our planet\u2019s surface, yet CO<sub>2&nbsp;<\/sub>is considered as the dominant influence on climate change is a scientific dilemma.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Download the bibliography&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/andymaypetrophysicist.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Holocene-CO2-References.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!state.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Holocene-CO2-References.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"Embed of Holocene-CO2-References.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-d3376c04-0417-4406-b12b-aac495f21639\" href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Holocene-CO2-References.pdf\">Holocene-CO2-References<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Holocene-CO2-References.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button wp-element-button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-d3376c04-0417-4406-b12b-aac495f21639\">Herunterladen<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"256103\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=256103\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0model-1609274560.742.gif?fit=245%2C187&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"245,187\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0model-1609274560.742\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0model-1609274560.742.gif?fit=245%2C187&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/0model-1609274560.742.gif?resize=346%2C264&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-256103\" width=\"346\" height=\"264\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Climate models fail to match global Holocene proxy temperatures known as the Holocene temperature conundrum (Liu, 2014).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":254941,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[691818153,691818076,691818192],"class_list":{"0":"post-259367","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","8":"tag-climate-models","9":"tag-co2","10":"tag-holocene","12":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/0Models-v-reality-2.jpg?fit=2571%2C2000&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-15tl","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":387689,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=387689","url_meta":{"origin":259367,"position":0},"title":"New Study: The Arctic Was 9\u00b0C Warmer Than Today During The Holocene Thermal Maximum","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"09\/07\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Holocene (11,700 to 8,200 years ago) Arctic (Svalbard) temperatures \u201cwere up to 9\u00b0C higher than today\u201d according to the authors of a\u00a0new\u00a0Nature\u00a0journal study. 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