{"id":245820,"date":"2023-02-27T11:32:41","date_gmt":"2023-02-27T10:32:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=245820"},"modified":"2023-02-27T11:32:43","modified_gmt":"2023-02-27T10:32:43","slug":"snow-job-busting-the-myth-that-solar-panels-plus-battery-storage-can-power-the-world","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=245820","title":{"rendered":"Snow Job: Busting The Myth That Solar Panels Plus Battery Storage Can Power the World"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"409\" data-attachment-id=\"245835\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245835\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?fit=1500%2C848&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1500,848\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-874\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?fit=723%2C409&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?resize=723%2C409&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245835\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?resize=1024%2C579&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?resize=300%2C170&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?resize=768%2C434&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?resize=1200%2C678&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?w=1500&amp;ssl=1 1500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-874.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"http:\/\/stopthesethings.com\/2023\/02\/25\/snow-job-busting-the-myth-that-solar-panels-plus-battery-storage-can-power-the-world\/\">STOP THESE THINGS<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"483\" data-attachment-id=\"245822\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245822\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?fit=1200%2C801&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,801\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-870\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?fit=723%2C483&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?resize=723%2C483&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245822\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?resize=1024%2C684&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?resize=768%2C513&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-870.png?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The claim that solar panels plus a few mega-batteries can power the entire world represents one of the \u2018green\u2019 energy cult\u2019s sillier moments. And there are plenty to choose from, to be sure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Powering a domestic house with solar panels and batteries is possible, but costly. Especially if the batteries are lithium-ion numbers, the kind peddled by California\u2019s Elon Musk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most serious and truly off-grid systems use lead-acid batteries and have a diesel generator as backup; a very common configuration in Australia\u2019s vast outback \u2013 on remote sheep and cattle stations, for example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, the idea put forward by Musk that \u201cto power the whole Earth\u201d we need just solar panels and \u201csome batteries\u201d is simply remote from all reason and reality. As Alex Epstein explains below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"451\" data-attachment-id=\"245830\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245830\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?fit=960%2C599&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"960,599\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-871\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?fit=723%2C451&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?resize=723%2C451&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245830\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?w=960&amp;ssl=1 960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?resize=300%2C187&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-871.png?resize=768%2C479&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Refuting the myth that just a small area of solar panels plus storage can power the world<\/strong><br>Energy Talking Points<br>Alex Epstein<br>26 January 2023<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"416\" data-attachment-id=\"245833\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245833\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?fit=1600%2C920&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,920\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-873\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?fit=723%2C416&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=723%2C416&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245833\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=1024%2C589&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=768%2C442&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=1536%2C883&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?resize=1200%2C690&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-873.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Myth: Just a small area of solar panels plus storage can power the world.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Truth<\/strong>: Storing just 3 days of global energy would cost $590 trillion at Elon Musk\u2019s current prices. And the panels would take up more space than all the world\u2019s cities, towns, and villages combined. 1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-solar-only-false-2.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"245824\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245824\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?fit=1600%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0musk-solar-only-false-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245824\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-false-2.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-solar-only-false-2.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>We often hear that just a small area of solar panels plus storage batteries can power the world.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSuch an obvious move\u201d says Elon Musk about this idea, adding \u201cEven solar plus batteries on a small section of Spain would solve EU energy needs.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is dangerously false.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Musk says that \u201cto power the whole Earth\u201d we need just solar panels and \u201csome batteries.\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is \u201csome batteries\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To store a mere 3 days of world energy, to be prepared for weeks (let alone seasons) with lower-than-usual sunlight, takes &gt;1,350 terawatt-hours in batteries. 2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The world uses over 165k TWh of energy annually, or ~1.36 billion MWh in 3 days. 1000 Tesla Megapacks (3916 MWh of storage) have a price over &gt;$1.7 billion. This would mean 3 days of storage using Tesla batteries would cost &gt;$590 trillion. That\u2019s 6X world GDP!3<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"245825\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245825\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?fit=1600%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245825\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/tesla-1000-megapacks-calc-v2.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>For those who think $590 trillion in batteries will somehow soon become cheap due to economies of scale, consider this: Tesla Megapack prices have been increasing, not rapidly decreasing, lately.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And efforts to scale batteries on an artificial timetable drive up prices.4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/electrek-megapack-prices.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"245826\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245826\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?fit=1600%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0electrek-megapack-prices\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245826\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0electrek-megapack-prices.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/electrek-megapack-prices.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The focus by Elon Musk and others on the space taken up by solar panels and batteries dodges the real issue: cost-effectiveness.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Due to stratospheric battery storage costs, no amount of solar panels can cost-effectively power the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Arguing that solar panels and batteries can provide energy to 8 billion people using modest space is like arguing that Rolls-Royces can transport 8 billion people using modest space.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, there\u2019s space for 8 billion Rolls-Royces\u2014but the human time it would take to produce them is cost-prohibitive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Another reason the world can\u2019t be powered by solar panels and batteries: these only provide electricity\u2014currently 1\/5 of the world\u2019s energy. Electricity can\u2019t power many uses of energy (flight, cargo ships) and is very costly for others (many forms of industrial process heat).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The main lie of \u201cJust a small area of solar panels can power the world\u201d is that it ignores the insane cost of the necessary batteries.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But it also drastically underestimates how much space solar panels require.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, this viral Twitter post underestimates the area by some 25 times.5<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-solar-only-combo.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"245827\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245827\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?fit=1600%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1600,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0musk-solar-only-combo\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245827\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-solar-only-combo.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-solar-only-combo.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The world uses &gt;165,000 TWh of energy per year, which requires ~19 billion kW of power output on average. An optimistic, real-world power density for solar projects is 10 W\/m^2. To power the world, you\u2019d need ~1.8 million km^2 of solar PV projects\u2014about the size of Libya. 6<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/real-solar-requirements.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"704\" data-attachment-id=\"245828\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245828\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?fit=924%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"924,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0real-solar-requirements\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?fit=723%2C704&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?resize=723%2C704&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245828\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?w=924&amp;ssl=1 924w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?resize=300%2C292&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0real-solar-requirements.png?resize=768%2C748&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/real-solar-requirements.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>If 1.8 million square km of solar panels doesn\u2019t seem like much, note that it is more than all cities, towns, villages, and human infrastructure combined (~1.5 million sq km).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And this excludes the huge footprints of solar and battery mining, manufacturing, and transmission.7<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Summary: While we are told that the world can be powered by a small area of solar panels and batteries, the storage costs involved are impossibly high (hundreds of $trillions) and the panels involved would take up more area than all the world\u2019s cities, towns, and villages combined.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The idea that the world can be powered by a small area of solar panels and batteries has been a major cause of today\u2019s global energy crisis.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The world artificially restricted fossil fuel supply because smart people like Elon Musk told us we could use solar and batteries instead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Elon Musk has dramatically improved his energy rhetoric over the last year, acknowledging the need for oil and gas and walking back his past climate catastrophism. But he and others need to stop spreading the deadly idea that solar and batteries can power the world.8<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-rethoric.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" data-attachment-id=\"245829\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245829\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?fit=3200%2C1800&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3200,1800\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0musk-rethoric\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?fit=723%2C407&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=723%2C407&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245829\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=2048%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/0musk-rethoric.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2023\/02\/musk-rethoric.png\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">References<br>Elon Musk on Twitter<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1607966762968154115\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elon Musk on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1386815954181632000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elon Musk on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp.com\/en\/global\/corporate\/energy-economics\/statistical-review-of-world-energy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">BP \u2013 Statistical Review of World Energy<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tesla.com\/megapack\/design\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tesla \u2013 Order Megapack<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/data.worldbank.org\/indicator\/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">World Bank Data \u2013 GDP (Current $US)<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/03\/21\/tesla-hikes-megapack-prices-backlog-extends\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Electrek \u2013 Tesla hikes Megapack prices as backlog extends to next year<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1607966762968154115\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elon Musk on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp.com\/en\/global\/corporate\/energy-economics\/statistical-review-of-world-energy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">BP \u2013 Statistical Review of World Energy<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/aae102\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Miller and Keith (2018) \u2013 Observation-based solar and wind power capacity factors and power densities<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/aaf9cf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Miller and Keith \u2013 Corrigendum: Observation-based solar and wind power capacity factors and power densities<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The world has a land area of almost 150 million square km. Only about 1% are \u201cbuilt-up\u201d areas like villages, towns, cities, and other human infrastructure.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/ourworldindata.org\/land-use\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Our World in Data \u2013 Land Use<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/ourworldindata.org\/how-urban-is-the-world\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Our World in Data \u2013 How urban is the world?<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en\/article\/4x3pmn\/elon-musk-burning-fossil-fuels-is-the-dumbest-experiment-in-history-by-far\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vice \u2013 Elon Musk: Burning Fossil Fuels Is the \u2018Dumbest Experiment in History, By Far\u2019<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/elon-musk-says-world-needs-more-oil-and-gas-11661772916\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">WSJ \u2013 Elon Musk Says World Needs More Oil and Gas<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/culture\/culture-features\/elon-musk-the-architect-of-tomorrow-120850\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RollingStone \u2013 Elon Musk: The Architect of Tomorrow<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1563020169160851456\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Elon Musk on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/energytalkingpoints.com\/musk-myth\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em><strong>Energy Talking Points<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"378\" data-attachment-id=\"245832\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=245832\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?fit=1200%2C627&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,627\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-872\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?fit=723%2C378&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?resize=723%2C378&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-245832\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?resize=1024%2C535&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?resize=300%2C157&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?resize=768%2C401&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/02\/image-872.png?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2022\/02\/solar-panel-blight-720x405-1.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com\/2022\/02\/solar-panel-blight-720x405-1.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The claim that solar panels plus a few mega-batteries can power the entire world represents one of the \u2018green\u2019 energy cult\u2019s sillier moments. 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