{"id":236344,"date":"2022-12-27T11:30:48","date_gmt":"2022-12-27T10:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=236344"},"modified":"2022-12-27T11:30:49","modified_gmt":"2022-12-27T10:30:49","slug":"new-study-a-thought-model-saying-theres-a-33-k-natural-greenhouse-effect-is-meritless-assumption","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=236344","title":{"rendered":"New Study: A \u2018Thought Model\u2019 Saying There\u2019s A 33 K \u2018Natural Greenhouse Effect\u2019 Is \u2018Meritless\u2019 Assumption"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"477\" data-attachment-id=\"236350\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=236350\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?fit=3030%2C2000&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3030,2000\" 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https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?resize=768%2C507&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?resize=1536%2C1014&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?resize=2048%2C1352&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?resize=1200%2C792&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?w=1446&amp;ssl=1 1446w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?w=2169&amp;ssl=1 2169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">From <a href=\"https:\/\/notrickszone.com\/2022\/12\/26\/new-study-a-thought-model-saying-theres-a-33-k-natural-greenhouse-effect-is-meritless-assumption\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=new-study-a-thought-model-saying-theres-a-33-k-natural-greenhouse-effect-is-meritless-assumption\">NoTricksZone<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">By <em>By\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/notrickszone.com\/author\/kenneth-richard\/\">Kenneth Richard<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The conceptualization of a 33 K warmer Earth due to the presence of water vapor and CO2 (greenhouse gases) in the atmosphere is wholly based on the unobserved and unknown, or assumptions about what an imaginary world with no atmosphere would be like.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">It is widely believed that we can determine the effective radiating temperature, a uniformly global temperature, the globally uniform albedo\u2026of a rocky planets simply by conjuring up thought experiments about what a made-up world would be like if it did not have an atmosphere (e.g., no N2, O2, atmospheric pressure, clouds, water vapor\u2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">This \u201cthought model\u201d has been subjected to critical analysis in a&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/pdf\/ns_2022092915140595.pdf\">new paper<\/a><\/strong>&nbsp;published by four atmospheric physicists.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"546\" data-attachment-id=\"236346\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=236346\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1.jpg?fit=1077%2C814&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1077,814\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" 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https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1.jpg?resize=300%2C227&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1.jpg?resize=768%2C580&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1.jpg?resize=200%2C150&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Stefan-Boltzmann-power-law-meritless-in-calculating-effective-radiating-temperature-0.3-albedo-far-from-reality-Kramm-2022-1.jpg?w=1077&amp;ssl=1 1077w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading alignwide has-text-align-center\">Image Source:\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scirp.org\/pdf\/ns_2022092915140595.pdf\">Kramm et al., 2022<\/a><\/strong><\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">The authors use observational measurements from 24 datasets for the moon \u2014 which actually is the closest real-world proximity to a rocky planet without an atmosphere \u2014 as their testbed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">They conclude that the globally averaged surface temperature is necessarily \u201cabout 60 K\u201d lower than the effective radiation temperature, rendering the \u201cthought model\u201d presumptions about a 33 K \u201cgreenhouse effect\u201d differential for the effective radiating vs. global average temperature (255 vs. 288 K) \u201cmeritless.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!state.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/ns_2022092915140595.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"Embed of ns_2022092915140595.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-267e52c9-06ea-48dd-979c-26a03f57ba03\" href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/ns_2022092915140595.pdf\">ns_2022092915140595<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/ns_2022092915140595.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button wp-element-button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-267e52c9-06ea-48dd-979c-26a03f57ba03\">Herunterladen<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Other instances of a disqualifying contrast between observations and modeled assumptions include:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201c[I]n the case of the Earth in absence of its atmosphere, [the effective radiating temperature] would only correspond to a globally averaged surface temperature if the surface temperature were uniformly distributed [i.e., the temperature at the poles was the same as in the tropics], which is, by far, not the case.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201c[T]he power law of Stefan and Boltzmann is only valid on a local scale. Applying it on a global scale notably disagrees with the prerequisites and assumptions on which the derivation of this power law is based.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u201cThe DLRE [moon] data provide observational evidence that the effective radiation temperature must be discarded for planets and their natural satellites.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><em>\u2018The assumption of a global albedo of about 0.30, however, is far from reality because this value is related to the entire Earth-atmosphere system. The cloud cover primarily contributes to this value of the global albedo, but a cloud cover cannot exist in the thought model of the Earth in the absence of its atmosphere.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The conceptualization of a 33 K warmer Earth due to the presence of water vapor and CO2 (greenhouse gases) in the atmosphere is wholly based on the unobserved and unknown, or assumptions about what an imaginary world with no atmosphere would be like.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":236350,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-236344","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","9":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-841.png?fit=3030%2C2000&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-Zu0","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":395590,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=395590","url_meta":{"origin":236344,"position":0},"title":"New Study Thoroughly Disassembles The CO2-Drives-Climate Assumption In One Fell Swoop","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"16\/08\/2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Not only does CO2 have no discernible effect on climate, but any alleged anthropogenic role within the hypothetical greenhouse effect is not detectable either.","rel":"","context":"In \"carbon dioxide (CO\u2082)\"","block_context":{"text":"carbon dioxide (CO\u2082)","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?tag=carbon-dioxide-co%e2%82%82"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQOU14aPp1HjybpPod8BuWcKZxZUhRM_BcaIzgm0qA47j1Zn1nTzS_woHHaUm55jJPBqVF2iq2fRNZiV5Pg4lndByx-QD2DpeNSqOV7zCeDs5lh4_NPChGxmtGUNQ4XD666D9IY90mIemq-foXE4ZfOKP8E2xw-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQOU14aPp1HjybpPod8BuWcKZxZUhRM_BcaIzgm0qA47j1Zn1nTzS_woHHaUm55jJPBqVF2iq2fRNZiV5Pg4lndByx-QD2DpeNSqOV7zCeDs5lh4_NPChGxmtGUNQ4XD666D9IY90mIemq-foXE4ZfOKP8E2xw-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQOU14aPp1HjybpPod8BuWcKZxZUhRM_BcaIzgm0qA47j1Zn1nTzS_woHHaUm55jJPBqVF2iq2fRNZiV5Pg4lndByx-QD2DpeNSqOV7zCeDs5lh4_NPChGxmtGUNQ4XD666D9IY90mIemq-foXE4ZfOKP8E2xw-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQOU14aPp1HjybpPod8BuWcKZxZUhRM_BcaIzgm0qA47j1Zn1nTzS_woHHaUm55jJPBqVF2iq2fRNZiV5Pg4lndByx-QD2DpeNSqOV7zCeDs5lh4_NPChGxmtGUNQ4XD666D9IY90mIemq-foXE4ZfOKP8E2xw-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/0AQOU14aPp1HjybpPod8BuWcKZxZUhRM_BcaIzgm0qA47j1Zn1nTzS_woHHaUm55jJPBqVF2iq2fRNZiV5Pg4lndByx-QD2DpeNSqOV7zCeDs5lh4_NPChGxmtGUNQ4XD666D9IY90mIemq-foXE4ZfOKP8E2xw-1.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":193683,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=193683","url_meta":{"origin":236344,"position":1},"title":"Atmospheric Physicist: CO2 Explains 0.1\u00b0C Of 1975-2000 Warming \u2013 \u2018One Fifth of The IPCC Assumption\u2019","author":"uwe.roland.gross","date":"28\/03\/2022","format":false,"excerpt":"A new study uses existing temperature and CO2 records and albedo\/natural variability attribution to suggest most of the recent warming is natural. 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