{"id":233371,"date":"2022-12-11T14:05:08","date_gmt":"2022-12-11T13:05:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=233371"},"modified":"2022-12-11T14:05:10","modified_gmt":"2022-12-11T13:05:10","slug":"tesla-semi-delivered-thunderf00t-busted","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=233371","title":{"rendered":"Tesla Semi Delivered \u2014 Thunderf00t Busted!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"377\" data-attachment-id=\"233386\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=233386\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?fit=1277%2C666&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1277,666\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?fit=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?fit=723%2C377&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?resize=723%2C377&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-233386\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?resize=1024%2C534&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?resize=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?resize=768%2C401&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?resize=1200%2C626&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?w=1277&amp;ssl=1 1277w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">About a week ago, Elon Musk hosted an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LtOqU2o81iI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">event<\/a>\u00a0where he delivered the first of his Tesla semis to Pepsi. About four years earlier, he hosted an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5RRmepp7i5g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">event<\/a>\u00a0where he introduced the semi along with a lot of inflated claims such as that convoys of them (each with their 18 squishy tires) are going to beat rail. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">He started taking deposits with a promise of delivery in two years. There\u2019s tons of YouTube video channels (both pro and con) covering the semi. On the pro side, one that I watch quite a bit is\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@NowYouKnowChannel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Now You Know<\/a><\/em>\u00a0hosted by a couple of hard core Tesla fanboys named Jesse and Zac.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"> It\u2019s very well produced and has 324 thousand subscribers. They have extensive coverage of all happenings in the world of electric vehicles and they do lots of interviews with green energy type entrepreneurs. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">They usually start their show with personal endorsements of granola cruncher type product sponsors. They have lots of audience participation features such as pictures and videos of customized Teslas and new charging stations. They are almost cult like in their adoration of Elon Musk and even regularly parse his latest tweets. They\u2019ve put down their deposit and are on the list to get a Tesla semi. They are understandably\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wU3U2csPg-k\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">stoked<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LtCbLqQhGIY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">On the con side, my favorite Tesla critic is\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@Thunderf00t\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Thunderf00t<\/a>\u00a0(aka Phil Mason). He\u2019s a chemist who started doing YouTube videos probably about two decades ago to debunk creationists. He\u2019s become very prolific making tons of videos on various science and technology topics acquiring a million subscribers along the way. He\u2019s very good at debunking various energy schemes and scams in which he titles his videos \u201c&lt;scheme or scam> Busted\u201d. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">He gained some note in the atheist\/skeptic movement by siding with Richard Dawkins in a scuffle with a blogger named Rebecca Watson (aka SkepChick) which has likely caused the permanent rift in the skeptic community. Mason describes it well in an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=lokSxeEqJBE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">interview<\/a>\u00a0with Dave Rubin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Mason is at the other end of the extreme from Jesse and Zac with an obsessive hatred for anything to do with Elon Musk. The vast majority of his more recent videos are about Musk. In this\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/56862W24HK8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">video<\/a>\u00a0he makes a calculation starting at about six and a half minutes in where he concludes that the Tesla semi will only be able to haul about five tons of cargo while a regular diesel semi will haul twenty. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">He does this by comparing the energy densities of lithium ion batteries and diesel fuel. I found this to be quite a revelation so I took a screen shot from the video and have been doing a lot of tweeting and commenting about it. I even noted it in my last\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cliscep.com\/2022\/11\/06\/podcast-report-b-f-randall-on-diesel-from-nuclear-process-heat\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">post<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"405\" data-attachment-id=\"233376\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=233376\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?fit=806%2C452&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"806,452\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-243\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?fit=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?fit=723%2C405&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?resize=723%2C405&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-233376\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?w=806&amp;ssl=1 806w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-243.png?resize=768%2C431&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Well, I\u2019ve been eagerly awaiting Thunderf00t\u2019s new video on Tesla\u2019s delivery of its first semi to Pepsi. Thunderf00t made a couple of early tweets:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"233377\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=233377\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?fit=631%2C645&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"631,645\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-244\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?fit=293%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?fit=631%2C645&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?resize=723%2C739&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-233377\" width=\"723\" height=\"739\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?w=631&amp;ssl=1 631w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?resize=293%2C300&amp;ssl=1 293w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-244.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"233379\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=233379\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?fit=639%2C637&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"639,637\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image-245\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?fit=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?fit=639%2C637&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=723%2C721&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-233379\" width=\"723\" height=\"721\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?w=639&amp;ssl=1 639w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=200%2C200&amp;ssl=1 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=450%2C450&amp;ssl=1 450w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=60%2C60&amp;ssl=1 60w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/image-245.png?resize=550%2C550&amp;ssl=1 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/o3dCDNIRM34?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">At about nine minutes in, he makes a load calculation from a widely circulated\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sSTYZdpA1Z4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">video<\/a>\u00a0of a Tesla semi passing another semi going up a 6% grade with a load of concrete barriers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">He finds a web page with some similar barriers, gets the weight specification, counts everything up and calculates that the Tesla semi is carrying about five to six tons. There\u2019s only one problem. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Thunderf00t has looked up the wrong barrier and got the wrong result! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">And he didn\u2019t just get it a little wrong. He picked a barrier that weighed half a ton, while a bunch of commenters and twitterers found the correct barriers which weigh in at two tons each. The load adds up to about twenty tons just like a conventional diesel semi! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">This of course left me a bit confused, but I\u2019m pretty confident that I\u2019ve figured out how Thunderf00t made his error. I actually found a clue at 21 minutes in, screen capped it, then tweeted my explanation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">I wouldn&#39;t call it a lie or obvious. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thunderf00t?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@thunderf00t<\/a> made a calculation based on the energy density of diesel fuel and batteries. From this he wrongly concluded that The Tesla could only haul 5 tons. what he missed was that diesel could go 1500 more miles. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/LLg75eZnXM\">pic.twitter.com\/LLg75eZnXM<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Canman &#8212; Build Keystone! (@DombroskiMike) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DombroskiMike\/status\/1600802037066698752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 8, 2022<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">He notes tha<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Does this mean the Tesla\u2019s battery does not cause any payload penalty? Tesla has not released the figures for the weight of its semi or its battery. I think this made Thunderf00t a bit overconfident in his calculations. Now if Tesla would\u2019ve given its semi something like a 1500 mile range, then it probably would have only a five ton payload (and cost about three times as much among other problems).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Now someone like Thunderf00t is obviously going to have a lot of online enemies so besides the glee of catching him with something this wrong, there are also going to be claims of dishonesty. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">They gave me an\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/littlebluena\/status\/1600894822671269888\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">example<\/a>\u00a0where he had once made a claim that the space shuttle could stay docked to the space station as long as the Dragon capsule.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"> Apparently the shuttle used fuel cells which only last a few weeks, while the Dragon has solar cells and batteries that can go on indefinitely. The arguments get into a bunch of hair splitting over whether the shuttle could be retrofitted with batteries and such. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I did\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DombroskiMike\/status\/1600919247164956672\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">look it up<\/a>\u00a0and Thunderf00t did come back and defend his position, although some might argue that he was trying to weasel his way out. Thunderf00t\u2019s factor of four payload miscalculation is more like scalping than hairsplitting, and I expect he will admit his mistake, although he hasn\u2019t commented on it yet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">So does the Tesla semi\u2019s battery cut into it\u2019s load capacity? Thunderf00t has\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thunderf00t\/status\/1601205555556601856\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">tweeted<\/a>\u00a0a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=b-TUfTwWdHM\">video<\/a>\u00a0by a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/cadoges\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">very articulate<\/a>\u00a0Australian automotive\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@AutoExpertJC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTuber<\/a>\u00a0who estimates it will cut the load by 12 to 20 percent. This guy\u2019s pretty good and I\u2019m having trouble filling this paragraph so I\u2019ll post his previous Tesla semi video:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yBODCJKn6vQ?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">While Thunderf00t\u2019s estimate of the payload penalty was wildly off, there\u2019s still a significant penalty. Of course, payload and range are not the only potential problems for an electric semi. Early in his busted video, Thunderf00t shows a model S battery fire and how hard it is to put out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">What kind of danger will this pose for a battery that\u2019s ten times as large?. There\u2019s also the question of how the electric infrastructure will handle new point demands for megawatts of recharging power. I also suspect there will be another roadblock in the form of mineral commodities inflation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Despite all this, there are some advantages to electric trucks. They don\u2019t emit air pollution where they are driven. Electric motors undoubtedly can deliver more power or torque than diesel engines. Regenerative braking saves energy and wear on brakes. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">I sometimes wonder whether there\u2019s some sort of hybrid solution for trucking. Well, I\u2019ll end with the two fanboys who seem to have found what looks to me like what might be an actual solution:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XSB3WaeolcU?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">via <strong><em><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-blue-color\">Climate Scepticism<\/mark><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">December 11, 2022, <strong>by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/cliscep.com\/author\/canmane\/\">MIKE DOMBROSKI<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/cliscep.com\/2022\/12\/11\/tesla-semi-delivered-thunderf00t-busted\/\">Tesla Semi Delivered \u2014 Thunderf00t Busted! \u2014 Climate Scepticism<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A diesel semi can easily be loaded with enough fuel to go 2000 miles, while a Tesla semi with its battery at the limit, can only go 500 miles, which gives a coincidental factor of four. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121246920,"featured_media":233386,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_coblocks_attr":"","_coblocks_dimensions":"","_coblocks_responsive_height":"","_coblocks_accordion_ie_support":"","_crdt_document":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-233371","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-uncategorized","9":"fallback-thumbnail"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/0Screenshot-2022-12-11-135643.png?fit=1277%2C666&ssl=1","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paxLW1-YI3","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":227660,"url":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=227660","url_meta":{"origin":233371,"position":0},"title":"Podcast Report: B. 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