{"id":191646,"date":"2022-03-15T09:19:05","date_gmt":"2022-03-15T08:19:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=191646"},"modified":"2022-03-15T09:19:06","modified_gmt":"2022-03-15T08:19:06","slug":"epstein-vs-dessler-should-america-rapidly-eliminate-fossil-fuel-use-to-prevent-climate-catastrophe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?p=191646","title":{"rendered":"Epstein Vs. Dessler: Should America Rapidly Eliminate Fossil Fuel Use to Prevent Climate Catastrophe."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"723\" height=\"403\" data-attachment-id=\"191650\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/climatescience.press\/?attachment_id=191650\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?fit=1044%2C582&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1044,582\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?fit=723%2C403&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=723%2C403&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-191650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=1024%2C571&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=300%2C167&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=768%2C428&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=816%2C455&amp;ssl=1 816w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?resize=144%2C80&amp;ssl=1 144w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/climatescience.press\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/00Screenshot-2022-03-15-091829.png?w=1044&amp;ssl=1 1044w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC5NMue42pUHGRT_qO0G3JWg\">Steamboat Institute<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A debate at The Steamboat Institute Energy and Climate Summit, The Nexus of U.S. Energy Policy, Climate Science, Freedom and Prosperity featuring Alex Epstein, author of the New York Times bestseller The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels and Andrew Dessler, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Texas A&amp;M University; author of Introduction to Modern Climate Change, moderated by Dan Njegomir, Editorial Page Editor, Denver Gazette, held March 12, 2022 in Steamboat Springs, Colorado<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(One hour)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"723\" height=\"407\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4AIVpK4oACs?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steamboat Institute A debate at The Steamboat Institute Energy and Climate Summit, The Nexus of U.S. Energy Policy, Climate Science, Freedom and Prosperity featuring Alex Epstein, author of the New York Times bestseller The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels and Andrew Dessler, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Texas A&amp;M University; 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